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I find it hard to believe they're getting that desperate to resort to this. Couldn't they just sneak the drugs through the thousands of trucks that pass through the border? Border security hardly inspects them.
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Great. As if submerged shipping containers weren't enough of a hazard offshore.
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I find it hard to believe they're getting that desperate to resort to this. Couldn't they just sneak the drugs through the thousands of trucks that pass through the border? Border security hardly inspects them. Yes, but then the Mexican drug interests would kill them if caught. What competing cartels do to each other would make one wish to be caught by the .gov pretty quickly. Or they'd have to profit-share and work out some sort of deal with the Mexican criminal organizations. This way they can sell direct, and it's worth the extra effort. |
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Sorry, but the waste of taxpayer dollars, along with the concomitant diversion of law enforcement resources (not to mention the loss of billions in potential tax revenues,) used to fight an unwinnable 'war' against drug trafficking, is much more of a threat to this country than mini-subs ever could be. |
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Sorry, but the waste of taxpayer dollars, along with the concomitant diversion of law enforcement resources (not to mention the loss of billions in potential tax revenues,) used to fight an unwinnable 'war' against drug trafficking, is much more of a threat to this country than mini-subs ever could be. I agree. And the creation of this mini-sub infrastructure now paves the way for much worse things than mere cocaine to be smuggled into the U.S. Explosives, terrorists, WMD's etc.. I could easily see Chavez/Venezuela/Iran using this as a pipeline for terror activities against us. |
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I find it hard to believe they're getting that desperate to resort to this. Couldn't they just sneak the drugs through the thousands of trucks that pass through the border? Border security hardly inspects them. Not so much desperation, but the ability to transport LARGE amounts of drugs in one haul is what makes it appealing. Smaller shipments via the boarder in trucks takes many trips in smaller quantities and a lot of the tricks for smuggling in vehicles are known (and looked for). These semi-submersable subs aren't supposed to be cheap to make (from what I've read) and are considered one time use. However, when you are transporting a TON of drugs (literally) at one time, the drug runners get their money back many times over. It's worth the expense. Just wait until they start making fully submersable subs. |
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I want one i believe they ditch the fiberglass subs after the mission is complete. it probably isn't worth the troble/risk to save a few bones by reusing a sub. especially if the sub costs a few thousand dollars and it just delivered a few million dollars worth of coke. time to do some beach combing |
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they are nearly undetectable with radar, sonar, and infrared systems
Anyone familiar with these systems who can refute this statement? |
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they are nearly undetectable with radar, sonar, and infrared systems
Anyone familiar with these systems who can refute this statement? I don't know about sonar and infrared, but I'll bet that 7-year old Raymarine radar I have on the offshore boat won't have any problem at all. It picks up boat wakes, seabirds and bouys, some screwy conning tower and exhaust pipes would be easy. |
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Drug cartels will do anything (and I DO MEAN anything) to get their product into the US; from tunnels and Ultralights to Subs. they have millions to invest in technology and no amount is too much for them to move their poison into our country.
I say pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan and just man the border with everythign we have militarily; just turn the US border into a huge superfortress with guns all over, make the Berlin Wall look like an effing speedbump. |
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Yup, the war on drugs is almost won. Yep, in about another 100 years, we'll have it won. |
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they are nearly undetectable with radar, sonar, and infrared systems
Anyone familiar with these systems who can refute this statement? I don't know about sonar and infrared, but I'll bet that 7-year old Raymarine radar I have on the offshore boat won't have any problem at all. It picks up boat wakes, seabirds and bouys, some screwy conning tower and exhaust pipes would be easy. That's bs. It ls a 350 hp diesel engine running, not a trolling motor |
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if I was building one of these things, I'd build it with a decent sized rowboat on top of it. Maybe 14 feet long or so. I'd fill it with three normal looking dudes and a bunch of fishing poles and a little outboard. Cooler of beer and some bait.
I'd have them actually fish. I'd have a radar mounted under the sub body so I could see sonar of the fish etc. nobody would look sideways at it. |
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Would a 5.56 round make it through the fiberglass hull of a narco-sub?
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Quoted: Yup, the war on drugs is almost won. Any day now, we just have to commit some more money to it...and more guns and helmets for the drug-warriors. |
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Would a 5.56 round make it through the fiberglass hull of a narco-sub? Hit it above the waterline so I can buy it at auction and repair it |
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Quoted: Would a 5.56 round make it through the fiberglass hull of a narco-sub? Fiberglass? Like a hot knife through butter. |
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Quoted: they are nearly undetectable with radar, sonar, and infrared systems Anyone familiar with these systems who can refute this statement? If they have motors, they can be detected, located and ranged. |
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they should build v2 rockets packed with drugs and launch them into miami....
now theres a distribution model that takes advert into consideration! |
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Let the attack sub guys have some practice by tracking then destroying those guys. I'll bet a couple of subs in the general area would be all we would need.
Alternatively, they could simply track and report location to the CG, but what fun would that be? |
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they are nearly undetectable with radar, sonar, and infrared systems
Anyone familiar with these systems who can refute this statement? I don't know about sonar and infrared, but I'll bet that 7-year old Raymarine radar I have on the offshore boat won't have any problem at all. It picks up boat wakes, seabirds and bouys, some screwy conning tower and exhaust pipes would be easy. From how far away? Distance is a factor and the ocean is huge. And while these are being used right now to supply coke so that some night club bitches can powder their nose you can bet your ass that AQ et.al. are taking notice and talking about if and how they might use this technology to take the fight back to us. |
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Sorry, but the waste of taxpayer dollars, along with the concomitant diversion of law enforcement resources (not to mention the loss of billions in potential tax revenues,) used to fight an unwinnable 'war' against drug trafficking, is much more of a threat to this country than mini-subs ever could be. I agree. And the creation of this mini-sub infrastructure now paves the way for much worse things than mere cocaine to be smuggled into the U.S. Explosives, terrorists, WMD's etc.. I could easily see Chavez/Venezuela/Iran using this as a pipeline for terror activities against us. Ah. So you are saying that a more effective means of keeping terrorists and WMDs out would have been to not search anything to begin with, to avoid the narcosub fiasco. Does that still make sense to you? And now AQ has the money to make submarines in south america suddenly? Guess if you are worried about that you don't consider Iraq or Afghanistan a success in the war on terror. I hope you guys aren't losing too much sleep over that thought. |
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