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Posted: 12/2/2009 9:17:33 AM EST
I just bought a set of Yokohoma Avid TRZ tires to replace the clapped out OEM tires on my car (38k miles).

They claim a 80,000 warranty. Does this mean they'll actually last this long? I've always bought house brand cheap tires so this is the first time I've ever bought the more expensive ones.

If they don't last 80,000 miles will NTB put new ones one or what? I know I could have asked NTB but I was ready to get out of there before I spent any more $$
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:18:43 AM EST
No - you just get pro-rated cost on new ones - make sure you rotate them and have some proof.
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:21:11 AM EST
As an average yes. Individual sets of tires, well that depends on way to many factors, but under normal driving and no extreme braking, burnouts, ect ect on average, they should last 80k. Darn statistics class has taught me to never trust manufacturers claims anymore

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usually crap out at 79500
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:22:33 AM EST
I've gotten more than 50K out of 50K tires. It really depends on your driving habits and maintenance efforts.
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:22:44 AM EST
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:23:30 AM EST
i dont know.. I get tires for 20 bucks from the used tire shop..



really ...


it hurts to see people pay over 800 bucks for tires.

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IT'S A SCAM.

Read the fine print. Usually the companies that do that also require you to have your tires 'okayed' every 5,000 miles by their 'certified' people.
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:25:51 AM EST
I wouldn't want a tire that has a compound hard enough to wear that long.
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:27:44 AM EST
I got well over 120K out of my first set of Michelin LTX's.

YMMV.

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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:28:21 AM EST
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I got well over 120K out of my first set of Michelin LTX's.

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I did as well, great tires.
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:30:07 AM EST
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I wouldn't want a tire that has a compound hard enough to wear that long.


This. Traction is usually a good thing.
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:33:12 AM EST
Many of these tires also suffer a degradation in performance long before they're officially "worn out"... particularly wet-road performance.

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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:33:19 AM EST

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I got well over 120K out of my first set of Michelin LTX's.

YMMV.



I did as well, great tires.

Awesome tires. Our company will only put Michelin's on our vehicles. I ended up replacing my LTX's right around 77,000. Mostly because they were over 4 years old.
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:35:33 AM EST
Do you rotate them often?
Are burning rubber?
Highway use only?
City use only?

They can last longer then "warranty" but that all depends if you take care of your tires.

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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:36:13 AM EST
I've had no trouble getting 60K on Michelin's on my 95 Chevy k1500.

More and more it seems like they are pretty close on being able to predict mileage for tires, like they can on car batteries.

And yes, they will pro-rate if you fall short. Whether that will make you happy who knows.
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I had some that rated at 80k. Mile ~3500 left rear "bubbled" out of the side on my way to Houston. Fuck tires, I'm going to get a hover bear.

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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:37:11 AM EST
Originally Posted By Guess:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
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I got well over 120K out of my first set of Michelin LTX's.

YMMV.



I did as well, great tires.

Awesome tires. Our company will only put Michelin's on our vehicles. I ended up replacing my LTX's right around 77,000. Mostly because they were over 4 years old.


My Michelin MXV4s are going on 75K+ right now. I will probably replace them next rotation.
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:38:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
I got well over 120K out of my first set of Michelin LTX's.

YMMV.


Yeah, you can almost get sick of the tires before they wear out.....What kind of driving?
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:38:28 AM EST
Tires over six years old aren't exactly safe to ride on. The rubbers to oxidize and break down. Ever seen all the blown up shreds of tires on highways and streets? Not all are due to underinflation.

Keep in mind as well that your car, which can have your wife and kids in it also, is only sitting on four spots about the size of your shoe. That's the contact patch. Good tires, changed out within 5-6 years is like insurance. Just because you can make tires last 80K miles doesn't mean you should. Same with oil, brake fluid, etc.

*Preventive* maintenance. Preventing problems costs a lot less time and money then fixing something that's FUBAR.

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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 9:59:48 AM EST
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I wouldn't want a tire that has a compound hard enough to wear that long.


ditto, when i had my BMW I was getting 8K miles out of my tires if that. Auto-x and track days took a toll on them, and -3.5 for camber also didnt help
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I have GoodYear Assurance TripleTread tires on my Saturn.

They are 80,000 mile tires.

They just passed the 100,000 mark, and I suspect I can get another 10,000 out of them.

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If they would still hold air at 80000 I don't think I would l want to ride on them....
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 10:05:41 AM EST
Originally Posted By arowneragain:
I got well over 120K out of my first set of Michelin LTX's.

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Quite literally, in this case.

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I changed my first set out at 100k just because I was going on a long trip, otherwise they would have lasted another 20k easy. I do a lot of highway driving.

I am on my second set and expect them to see the same, only my truck will not be going on long trips since it will have over 200k miles soon.

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I got well over 120K out of my first set of Michelin LTX's.

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You used to get Michelin X1 tires that if they wore out before 80k they replaced them for free. You had to take to the tire place and get them rotated every 5k but that was free. They wore out at 70k and they replaced them with brand new ones. They were great tires
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 10:19:11 AM EST

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I wouldn't want a tire that has a compound hard enough to wear that long.


This. Traction is usually a good thing.

+1. Hard rubber like that really sucks. Have fun in the rain.
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 10:35:36 AM EST
My Cooper Cs4s are looking to be on track to go at least 80k.

Best tires I've owned so far.

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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 10:38:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By jbombelli:

Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By saturnstyl:
I wouldn't want a tire that has a compound hard enough to wear that long.


This. Traction is usually a good thing.

+1. Hard rubber like that really sucks. Have fun in the rain.


They handle rain and snow just fine.

Ride quality is quite good, too.


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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 10:48:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By tep0583:
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Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By saturnstyl:
I wouldn't want a tire that has a compound hard enough to wear that long.


This. Traction is usually a good thing.

+1. Hard rubber like that really sucks. Have fun in the rain.


They handle rain and snow just fine.

Ride quality is quite good, too.


They didn't for me. I had no traction in the rain at all. I'd hit the gas, even mildly, at a stop sign, or to pull away from a light, whatever, and it was spin city.


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Originally Posted By Maryland_Shooter:
- make sure you rotate them and have some proof.


and if your tires show signs of bad alignment or bad shocks, they will reduce your claim.

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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 10:57:36 AM EST
Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
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I got well over 120K out of my first set of Michelin LTX's.

YMMV.



I did as well, great tires.


Same here, That's all I've used for years.

You get what you pay for.

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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 2:46:03 PM EST
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I've gotten more than 50K out of 50K tires. It really depends on your driving habits and maintenance efforts.


it depends alot on your driving habits.. I put some 80k Kuhmo tires on my wifes CRV when she was driving about 95 miles a day to work.. With all that highway miles we got very very close to 80k out of them.. I replaced them with the exact same tire but my wife changed work locations (locally, no highway miles) and we only got about 40k out of them

IMHO - sometimes the warranty isnt worth the trouble - especially if you buy online.. The Kumhos were like $45/each (the first set was $36 from tirerack.com) BUT for warranty replacement I would have to send the tires back to tirerack at my expense (i would guess $10 each) AND what was I suppose to have on the vehicle during this time..

I dispise NTB - I bought some of their recommended 'house brand' tires (selling point was "these are made by a major mfg, but they dont put their name on them")many years ago and when they cords started coming out they told me "i should have bought better quality tires"..

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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 2:48:28 PM EST
Originally Posted By arowneragain:
I got well over 120K out of my first set of Michelin LTX's.

YMMV.



I had that tire in an E rated LT265-75 R16 and only got about 40k out of them (on a dodge cummins 2500).. a lot of other ppl got 2 to 3x the miles though from a dodge/cummins forum.. I assume my city driving was the problem

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I got around 65,000 out of a set of BFG radial ta on my 77 f150, included plenty of street racing and desert racing when I lived in arizona, I think they were 50,000 mile tires.

The yokohama avid st I put on there next were still on it when I sold it almost 80,000 miles later.

Rotate them, have your alignment set properly, and keep the pressure right, and good tires will last.
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Our Michelins lasted exactly 60,000 miles. They were very good tires overall.

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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 2:59:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
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I got well over 120K out of my first set of Michelin LTX's.

YMMV.



I did as well, great tires.


Yup, only thing I didn't like about mine was that they hydroplaned ridiculously easy. Got great tread life out of them though. I replaced them with a set of Goodyear Fortera Silent Armors... mediocre tires at best. They're rated for 70,000 miles (wear rating of 720), but are down to the wear bars after just 45k. My Michelins only had a wear rating of 460 and they lasted much longer.

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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 3:06:52 PM EST
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
I just bought a set of Yokohoma Avid TRZ tires to replace the clapped out OEM tires on my car (38k miles).

They claim a 80,000 warranty. Does this mean they'll actually last this long? I've always bought house brand cheap tires so this is the first time I've ever bought the more expensive ones.

If they don't last 80,000 miles will NTB put new ones one or what? I know I could have asked NTB but I was ready to get out of there before I spent any more $$


Read your warranty...
Most warranties I've seen will replace to a certain mileage under certain circumstances, then pro-rate the rest.
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 3:13:20 PM EST
They will pro-rate a trade in if they don't.

With 80,000 miles tires over the last ten years, if you keep the aligned and properly inflated, you should make 80,000 miles. If you do a lot of highway miles, more.

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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 3:14:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By glk38:
Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
Originally Posted By arowneragain:
I got well over 120K out of my first set of Michelin LTX's.

YMMV.



I did as well, great tires.


Same here, That's all I've used for years.

You get what you pay for.


Just about at 120k on mine, but they are ready to get replaced. Ball joints this weekend, tires the next

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I got over 140,000 out of my last set of michelins.

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If you don't end up running over shit, or getting a side wall puncture, they'll last for a good long while. Most of the time if you get side wall damage, the tire gets replaced. :D all you buy is a new warranty for the new tire, have that happen 3 other times and you get 4 new tires .

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Buying high mileage tires make you buy the same tires make because you don't want to loose pro-rating difference if they fail little early, so is not worth to do this. Tread may last but there is more chance that tire will blow up on you when driving.

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Damn, this thread made me realize that I'm at 125k on my toyota pickup with the original tires from 1998 still on it. I should probably get some new ones but they're not bald yet.

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Damn, this thread made me realize that I'm at 125k on my toyota pickup with the original tires from 1998 still on it. I should probably get some new ones but they're not bald yet.


As long as you aren't getting dry rot from the age you are fine. A little 303 Protectant from time and you will be fine.

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Not my GY TripleTreads. They made it about 60,000 miles. Noisy as shit and the sidewalls were crackin like a bitch.

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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 4:45:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
I just bought a set of Yokohoma Avid TRZ tires to replace the clapped out OEM tires on my car (38k miles).

They claim a 80,000 warranty. Does this mean they'll actually last this long? I've always bought house brand cheap tires so this is the first time I've ever bought the more expensive ones.

If they don't last 80,000 miles will NTB put new ones one or what? I know I could have asked NTB but I was ready to get out of there before I spent any more $$

I generally get CLOSE to the rated mileage, but I inflate to 40 PSI, check them regularly, and rotate them at every oil change.
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Link Posted: 12/2/2009 4:53:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By jbombelli:

Originally Posted By strat81:
Originally Posted By saturnstyl:
I wouldn't want a tire that has a compound hard enough to wear that long.


This. Traction is usually a good thing.

+1. Hard rubber like that really sucks. Have fun in the rain.


This is no shit. I learned my lesson with a set of long wearing Yokohamas. They made the truck un-drivable if three snowflakes hit the ground. They'd be fine if I lived in the desert....Michigan not so much.

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