ARCHIVED
 KA3B
TOXIC PHDAN
Life Member
Joined: Aug 2003  WA, USA
 Posts: 38416 Feedback: 100% (21) |
Posted: 8/30/2009 9:45:12 AM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Las Vegas Review-Journal IN BRIEF 32-member crew escapes Plane damaged while landing at Nellis AFB 
A plane was damaged while landing at Nellis Air Force Base late Friday, causing the plane to catch fire and forcing its 32-member crew to escape. The E-3 Sentry warning and control system, also known as an AWACS, was being flown by the 552nd Air Control Wing out of Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma, according to a Nellis spokesman. The crew was deployed to Nellis as part of the base's Red Flag exercises and was returning from a mission when the incident occurred. Officials did not say how the aircraft was damaged. Emergency crews at the base quickly extinguished the flames and the plane was evacuated safely. Investigators have not determined the cause of the accident. http://www.lvrj.com/news/56171647.html |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 9:47:41 AM
Looks like the nose gear failed from the picture.
|
|
|
|
GENESMITH
USN Retired
Life Member
Joined: Jan 2005 TX, USA
Posts: 8558 Feedback: 100% (116) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 9:54:20 AM
Good thing the front didn't fall off...
|
|
|
Pita_146
Skunk Jihad Specialist
Team Member
Joined: Jan 2006 WI, USA
Posts: 18838 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 9:55:46 AM
That will buff right out.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 10:00:38 AM
[Last Edit: 8/30/2009 10:01:21 AM by tr_1127]
Originally Posted By GENESMITH: Good thing the front didn't fall off... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-QNAwUdHUQ Glad the crew got out safely.  |
|
|
|
CletusRoundbelly
Fat Guys in Tactical Gear Inc.
Team Member
Joined: Jan 2007 GA, USA
Posts: 8088 Feedback: 100% (5) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 10:16:49 AM
Originally Posted By GENESMITH:
Good thing the front didn't fall off... Yup Happens all the time, except that this time the front fell off. 
Love that video |
|
|
AA717driver
Member
Team Member
Joined: Mar 2009 IN, USA
Posts: 273 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 10:21:34 AM
"Shit! Now, we're gonna be late for happy hour at the O-club!"
Originally Posted By Pita_146:
That will buff right out. Yeah, just rub enough tax-payer dollars on it. 
TC P.S.––Given the high number of operations, there are very few incidents involving "National Assets" like this. |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 10:42:34 AM
How much do one of those planes cost?
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 11:53:58 AM
I know where they can get a wing for the damaged J-Stars documented in another thread.
|
|
|
|
Star_Scream
Flight Level One One Zero FTMFW
Team Member
Joined: May 2005 TX, USA
Posts: 3029 Feedback: 100% (3) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 11:54:48 AM
I wish i could get a side gig on one of those.
|
|
|
VoodooChile
Just Smile and Wave Boys
Team Member
Joined: Sep 2002 OK, USA
Posts: 11098 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 12:11:08 PM
[Last Edit: 8/30/2009 12:11:45 PM by VoodooChile]
My Dad used to fly with the 964th AWACS out of Tinker 30 years ago..He's been to Red Flag several times...I need to send him that pic
|
|
|
Gravity_Tester
Unapologetic Open Carry Proponent
Team Member
Joined: Apr 2005 AZ, USA
Posts: 12757 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 12:17:29 PM
Originally Posted By tr_1127:
Originally Posted By GENESMITH:
Good thing the front didn't fall off... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-QNAwUdHUQ Glad the crew got out safely.
It got hit by a wave! |
|
|
DoubleARon
Member
Team Member
Joined: Apr 2005 OK, USA
Posts: 3905 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 12:25:18 PM
I have a friend that flies those out of Tinker...I hope that's not his plane. That won't buff out.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 12:37:03 PM
Mid air collison with UFO?
|
|
|
Ahiodsohi
Team Member
Team Member
Joined: Jul 2006 AZ, USA
Posts: 1359 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 12:40:17 PM
There are 32 freaking people in an AWACS? Holy shit!
|
|
|
VoodooChile
Just Smile and Wave Boys
Team Member
Joined: Sep 2002 OK, USA
Posts: 11100 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 12:44:45 PM
[Last Edit: 8/30/2009 12:45:18 PM by VoodooChile]
Originally Posted By Ahiodsohi:
There are 32 freaking people in an AWACS? Holy shit! Didn't you see the desert airstrike scene in Transformers? It was like a party in there...I thought I saw a girl handing out drinks
|
|
|
scootr29
Member
Team Member
Joined: Mar 2009 SC, USA
Posts: 459 Feedback: 100% (14) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 12:51:46 PM
Originally Posted By Ahiodsohi:
There are 32 freaking people in an AWACS? Holy shit! +1...who knew |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 12:51:58 PM
That will buff out fairly easily as repairs go. Failed nose gear. Pilot <-> Co-pilot..." I thought you called barbers poles gear down & locked ? "
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 1:08:39 PM
[Last Edit: 8/30/2009 1:17:23 PM by VegasSig]
I was the first crash truck on scene and began the inital attack with my turret. I came in on the nose. The whole shift did a great job. We were out there for 6 hours doing overhaul and dealing with hot spots.
|
|
|
|
armoredsaint
Pok Gai 1.0
Team Member
Joined: Apr 2003 OH, USA
Posts: 16175 Feedback: 100% (19) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 1:09:51 PM
N_T wanted to give it that worn look
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 1:51:09 PM
I fly with AWACS and hopefully they will fix our old broke ass jets.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 1:56:23 PM
Originally Posted By DLupini:
I fly with AWACS and hopefully they will fix our old broke ass jets. You come TDY to Nellis often? Ever stop by the Fire Dept. smoke pit? |
|
|
|
doorgunner84
I felt like destroying something beautiful.
Team Member
Joined: May 2001 AK, USA
Posts: 7349 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 1:59:41 PM
They'll all get Air Medals for their heroism...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 2:00:55 PM
Originally Posted By doorgunner84:
They'll all get Air Medals for their heroism... I dont know about that. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 2:02:12 PM
Originally Posted By VegasSig:
I was the first crash truck on scene and began the inital attack with my turret. I came in on the nose. The whole shift did a great job. We were out there for 6 hours doing overhaul and dealing with hot spots. pat,pat,pat. Good job I wish I would have been working. Everything happens when I'm not at work. |
|
|
|
doorgunner84
I felt like destroying something beautiful.
Team Member
Joined: May 2001 AK, USA
Posts: 7350 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 2:04:06 PM
Originally Posted By VegasSig:
Originally Posted By doorgunner84:
They'll all get Air Medals for their heroism... I dont know about that. I was joking... |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 2:24:06 PM
Originally Posted By G0MERP:
Originally Posted By VegasSig:
I was the first crash truck on scene and began the inital attack with my turret. I came in on the nose. The whole shift did a great job. We were out there for 6 hours doing overhaul and dealing with hot spots. pat,pat,pat. Good job I wish I would have been working. Everything happens when I'm not at work. Good thing your not coming back for a few more days.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 2:38:09 PM
will be there in dec. supporting red flag...i love coming down there!
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 2:54:33 PM
Originally Posted By Cleatus:
will be there in dec. supporting red flag...i love coming down there! Guard unit I am guessing? What AFSC? |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 3:31:57 PM
Holy crap.......................
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 6:03:39 PM
reserve- 2T2
popped in early this summer with the wifey to show her around- she thought it was pretty cool- get the tour of the Thunderbirds building, emblem and all...they are super nice there - a senior msgt gave us the tour. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 6:18:29 PM
[Last Edit: 8/30/2009 6:21:08 PM by sf46]
That really sucks.
 |
|
|
|
stickfigure
Member
Team Member
Joined: Jul 2004 NV, USA
Posts: 2328 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 6:36:57 PM
Dammit!!! I missed it? That's what I get for being TDY...
|
|
|
VACaver
I really do know my ass from a hole in the ground!
Team Member
Joined: Jun 2006 VA, USA
Posts: 7000 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 6:50:19 PM
Originally Posted By VegasSig:
Originally Posted By doorgunner84:
They'll all get Air Medals for their heroism... I dont know about that. I have no doubt that their next OPR's / EPR's will contain some mention of how their actions saved or contributed in the successful evacuation of a damaged aircraft and resulted in 32 lives being saved. Bet on it. |
|
|
|
2A373
Desk Bound Eagle Keeper
Team Member
Joined: Jun 2004 FL, USA
Posts: 10503 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 6:56:53 PM
[Last Edit: 8/30/2009 6:58:12 PM by 2A373]
Just need to take a nose off of one of the many 135s at DM and put it on her and she will be as good as new.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 7:48:13 PM
Originally Posted By tr_1127:
Originally Posted By GENESMITH:
Good thing the front didn't fall off... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-QNAwUdHUQ Glad the crew got out safely.
Now that's some funny shit  |
|
|
|
Bugalaman
Member
Team Member
Joined: Feb 2008 UT, USA
Posts: 2661 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 7:57:46 PM
[Last Edit: 8/30/2009 7:59:22 PM by Bugalaman]
which environment did this happen in, or did it happen outside the environment?
ETA: it looks like Boeing makes them better than Lockheed. C5 fronts do fall off  |
|
|
|
AA717driver
Member
Team Member
Joined: Mar 2009 IN, USA
Posts: 277 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 7:58:22 PM
Originally Posted By VoodooChile:
Didn't you see the desert airstrike scene in Transformers? It was like a party in there...I thought I saw a girl handing out drinks
It IS the Air Force, after all. Q: How did the Soviets know which airports to target during the Cold War? A: If there was a golf course on the property, it HAD to be an AFB. 
TC P.S.––Good job Sig! When my airplane breaks going into Vegas, I'll be sure to come to YOUR airport! (Just ask the Base Commander at Whiteman about TWA service to HIS airport...)
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 7:58:35 PM
Glad they are all safe.
|
|
|
|
cmjohnson
Master Luthier and flight sim junkie
Team Member
Joined: Dec 2001 FL, USA
Posts: 32551 Feedback: 100% (17) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 8:00:29 PM
Given the high cost of national assets like AWACS, I guess this will be fixed. It's not like they can't get 707 nose sections out of the boneyard.
I wonder how much fire damage there is there. CJ |
|
|
RED_5
Resident Jedi Master
Team Member
Joined: Feb 2001 CO, USA
Posts: 22299 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 8:04:56 PM
Originally Posted By cmjohnson: Given the high cost of national assets like AWACS, I guess this will be fixed. It's not like they can't get 707 nose sections out of the boneyard. I wonder how much fire damage there is there. CJ are you sure? IIRC, there are a few KC-135's. Should be the same. depending upon the ammount of damage,they can get that repaired. I've worked a few 727/37/47 repairs that you wouldn't think were salvageable based upon looks of the damage. |
|
|
GIJoe
12 inch with Kung-Fu grip
Team Member
Joined: Jan 2002 USA
Posts: 2032 Feedback: 100% (13) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 8:21:29 PM
Originally Posted By RED_5:
Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
Given the high cost of national assets like AWACS, I guess this will be fixed. It's not like they can't get 707 nose sections out of the boneyard. I wonder how much fire damage there is there. CJ are you sure? IIRC, there are a few KC-135's. Should be the same. depending upon the ammount of damage,they can get that repaired. I've worked a few 727/37/47 repairs that you wouldn't think were salvageable based upon looks of the damage. The -135 is not a 707. NLG is different. They have plenty of spares for that. The structure is the hard part. There are a bunch of 707s in the boneyard however. That where we got the engines for the KC-135E's. |
|
|
SmilingBandit
As seen on TV
Team Member
Joined: Jan 2005 NE, USA
Posts: 12431 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 8:31:53 PM
Originally Posted By RED_5:
Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
Given the high cost of national assets like AWACS, I guess this will be fixed. It's not like they can't get 707 nose sections out of the boneyard. I wonder how much fire damage there is there. CJ are you sure? IIRC, there are a few KC-135's. Should be the same. depending upon the ammount of damage,they can get that repaired. I've worked a few 727/37/47 repairs that you wouldn't think were salvageable based upon looks of the damage. The -135 and 707 are similar, yet completely different airframes. The 707 is notably larger than the -135. |
|
|
bradinator
Member
Team Member
Joined: Oct 2008 TX, USA
Posts: 1115 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 8:44:41 PM
Originally Posted By Gravity_Tester:
Originally Posted By tr_1127:
Originally Posted By GENESMITH:
Good thing the front didn't fall off... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-QNAwUdHUQ Glad the crew got out safely.
It got hit by a wave! thats not a real interview is it? The crazy accent is throwing my judgement. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 9:16:54 PM
Originally Posted By 2A373:
Just need to take a nose off of one of the many 135s at DM and put it on her and she will be as good as new.
Won't work. The E-3 is actually a 707 airframe. The -135 isn't. The landing gear are different and the fuselage has different dimensions. |
|
|
JustinOK34
Like Nothing Else.
Team Member
Joined: Mar 2005 OK, USA
Posts: 6401 Feedback: 100% (13) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 9:21:04 PM
[Last Edit: 9/3/2009 9:55:38 PM by JustinOK34]
Originally Posted By Bugalaman:
which environment did this happen in, or did it happen outside the environment? ETA: it looks like Boeing makes them better than Lockheed. C5 fronts do fall off http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/3826/bilde23lb.jpg The C-5 pictured in your post stalled and impacted the ground prior to reaching the runway. They had an engine failure, shut it down, but flew with the wrong throttle pulled back on on approach (so they were in essence flying a two engine approach). Then they also configured incorrectly (used a different flap setting). They were low on glide path, and slow almost the entire time on final. Get yourself low, slow, and drug in while thrust defficient and your chances of not making the runway are pretty good. The E-3 appears to have suffered a nose gear failure of some sort. The difference though in these two situations is the approach and manner in which the aircraft made contact with mother Earth. Sup DLupini.  |
|
|
cmjohnson
Master Luthier and flight sim junkie
Team Member
Joined: Dec 2001 FL, USA
Posts: 32555 Feedback: 100% (17) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 9:37:17 PM
Yeah, the 707 body is the same height but it's 17 inches wider. The 135 fuselage is oval, 17 inches narrower than it is tall, while the 707 fuselage is circular in cross section.
This means that a 135 cockpit definitely won't fit an E-3, which is based on a 707-320 airframe. CJ |
|
|
|
Posted: 8/30/2009 10:29:53 PM
[Last Edit: 8/31/2009 1:01:25 PM by ARAMP1]
Damn.
Sup DLupini |
|
|
|
JustinOK34
Like Nothing Else.
Team Member
Joined: Mar 2005 OK, USA
Posts: 6406 Feedback: 100% (13) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 10:39:06 PM
[Last Edit: 9/3/2009 9:54:47 PM by JustinOK34]
Originally Posted By VACaver:
I have no doubt that their next OPR's / EPR's will contain some mention of how their actions saved or contributed in the successful evacuation of a damaged aircraft and resulted in 32 lives being saved. Bet on it. This man speaks from lots of experience.
|
|
|
2A373
Desk Bound Eagle Keeper
Team Member
Joined: Jun 2004 FL, USA
Posts: 10508 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post |
Posted: 8/30/2009 10:45:39 PM
Originally Posted By Pavelow90:
Originally Posted By 2A373:
Just need to take a nose off of one of the many 135s at DM and put it on her and she will be as good as new.
Won't work. The E-3 is actually a 707 airframe. The -135 isn't. The landing gear are different and the fuselage has different dimensions. I know. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 8/31/2009 1:40:31 AM
I was there. The first crash truck there to be more specific. I highly doubt that jet will fly again.
|
|
|
ARCHIVED
