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2/23/2017 5:55:53 PM
Posted: 3/16/2001 5:58:23 AM EST
This is taken from: [url]http://usgovinfo.about.com/newsissues/usgovinfo/blwacoguns.htm[/url]
Ammunition Magazines 289 7.62 x 39mm AK-47 Type 248 .223/5.56mm M-16/AR-15 Type 108 Sten Gun Type 88 .308 Caliber FN FAL Type 72 M-14 Type 61 Beretta Model Type 92 58 .308 Caliber of Unknown Type 28 Ruger Mini-14 Type 22 .22 Caliber 17 UZI Type 16 USAS-12 Type 13 .45 Caliber 11 Glock 11 MP-5 11 Sig Sauer P226/P228 9 Unknown Type 7 .308 Caliber Galil Type 6 Walther PPK 5 9mm Unknown Type 4 .50 Caliber 3 .30 Caliber U.S. Carbine 3 .380 Auto Caliber 2 9mm Smith & Wesson 1 AK-74 Type 1 Grendel
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And to prove the point that good mags (i.e., presumably USGI's) will last a lifetime, they also had:
Magazine Springs 360 M-16/AR-15 42 FN FAL .308 Caliber Type 35 AK-47 28 9mm Magazine Springs of Unknown Type 15 Unknown 10 M-14 6 M-1 Carbine 3 .50 Caliber 1 Mini-14 Magazine 1 Glock
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Link Posted: 3/16/2001 6:26:50 AM EST
No damn wonder they lost.... All those damn people, and thats it? If there was 50 of them, thats ONLY about 10 mags per person(main 2 types divided up)...... BE PREPARED!!!! SHEESH! OUT HERE!!!
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 6:51:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2001 7:02:27 AM EST by mattjedi]
Do you honestly expect me to believe that if they had actually had all these weapons they would have lost? Not a chance! It's another government coverup.
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 7:17:03 AM EST
I just realized how much further I have to go. [:D]
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 7:23:51 AM EST
Hate to have been the dude with the '74! Only one mag!?
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 10:14:23 AM EST
Of course they would have lost. Surrounded, out numbered, cut off from supply/escape. Another reason was Koresh thought he was Jesus yet he wore glasses. Hey look everybody, there's Jesus coming out of LensCrafters!
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 11:06:59 AM EST
The Davidians definitely would have completely decimated the ATF in the initial raid as the JBT had run out of ammo and had to negotiate a withdrawl from Mount Carmel. The problem that the Davidians had was that they truly believed that the government would never intentionally kill them and unfortunately they were wrong.
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 11:40:01 AM EST
where did they find these mags? with the heat of the fire and damage it caused i find it hard to believe that they could i.d. all those mags. won't a ak74 mag melt at that temp?
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 12:09:10 PM EST
Which one of those mags held the anti tank rounds? And I have the feeling if the ATF thought they did have something of that capacity they would have then called in air strikes against them.
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 12:16:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2001 12:29:10 PM EST by fight4yourrights]
The Davidians ran a business in another building called the MAG BAG. I'll assume most of the magazines were there. Heck, most of their guns were offsite at a gun show. What anti-tank rounds did they have? Even a 50 BMG SLAP round won't penetrate an Abrams. More pro-government propaganda. Koresh didn't think he was Jesus, just a prophet to be used in the final days. Try reading David Tibideos (sp?) book or watch the Waco tapes. You will change your mind about Koresh. Was he a great guy? No. Was he having sex with young girls? Yes, but I can marry a 12 year old in Delaware, so... Did he break the law? Maybe. But he could have easily been arrested at any time. He invited the BATF to come out and inspect his weapons! Texas Child Services looked into allegations of child abuse and found none. Our government murdered those people at Waco because they were too different and BECAUSE THEY COULD.
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 1:18:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2001 1:31:52 PM EST by Opesus]
1 Air Rifle
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Bwahaha.
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 1:35:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By Garmentless: Hate to have been the dude with the '74! Only one mag!?
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I think I would rather have the AK 74 with one mag than be stuck with the Grendel![:)]
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 2:14:47 PM EST
What kills me is why this list of magazines is an issue anyway. I'm sorry but it is NOT against the law to own rifle/pistol magazines, no matter how many. We all know who the criminals here are. I agree that the Davidians were a bunch of strange folks, but being "different" is NOT a crime either. Can you imagine the outcry had this been a group of gays? The marching and demonstrations would have made the Vietnam protests look meaningless, but that would never have happened. The media clearly took sides as there was NO outcry. What about the minorities that vanished in those flames? Where was the NAACP when they died? What about "Children's Advocates" groups. Silent. This country sat back & watched these people die on TV like Romans in a coliseum seeing Christians being thrown to the lions. Sheeple. BAHHHHHHHH
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 4:23:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2001 4:36:38 PM EST by critter_FR]
Originally Posted By btip: What kills me is why this list of magazines is an issue anyway. I'm sorry but it is NOT against the law to own rifle/pistol magazines, no matter how many. We all know who the criminals here are. I agree that the Davidians were a bunch of strange folks, but being "different" is NOT a crime either. Can you imagine the outcry had this been a group of gays? The marching and demonstrations would have made the Vietnam protests look meaningless, but that would never have happened. The media clearly took sides as there was NO outcry. What about the minorities that vanished in those flames? Where was the NAACP when they died? What about "Children's Advocates" groups. Silent. This country sat back & watched these people die on TV like Romans in a coliseum seeing Christians being thrown to the lions. Sheeple. BAHHHHHHHH
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It really can't be said any better than that! It deserves repeating! What we all need to do is vow that we will NEVER let another Waco happen in OUR America! For anyone who needs a dose of reality on the Waco masacre, browse this link for a few hours: [url]http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/[/url] If you have children, or if you just like children, do not read without a box of kleenex handy.
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 5:09:29 PM EST
Ditto. Has anyone seen that documentary on Waco that aired on Skinemax? I suggest it only if you want to get really pissed off. I really liked how the only videotape of the thousands to be lost by the goverment was the actual raid. Damn the luck. You will also learn lots of other things that were never shown on the news. The best part was after all the women and children died, the AG took all that "blame", and Clinton never saw the buck, all the responsible FBI and ATF agents were promoted.
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 5:33:28 PM EST
I'd hate to be one of the 6 guys with M1 Carbines, only .5 magazine per person! (6 guns, 3 magazines) Kharn
Link Posted: 3/16/2001 6:13:44 PM EST
There are NEVER enough Mags!
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