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Posted: 5/27/2009 11:14:01 AM

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On one hand I'm happy that TN is being proactive post-Katrina (maybe other states will follow); but shouldn't the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution sorta eliminate the need for laws like this?



http://www.newschannel5.com/global/story.asp?s=10415228&ClientType=Printable

AP) NASHVILLE, Tenn. - A person who legally possesses a gun would not have it seized during periods of martial rule under a proposal that has been signed into law by the governor.

The measure was signed by Gov. Phil Bredesen on Thursday and takes effect immediately.

Sponsors say martial rule is the same as martial law at the federal level. They say the law is necessary after law enforcement in New Orleans went door to door seizing weapons in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

Republican Sen. Jack Johnson of Brentwood, one of the sponsors, has said he doesn't expect such behavior in Tennessee, but believes legislation should be in place just in case.





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Posted: 5/27/2009 11:25:30 AM
Good for TN
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Posted: 5/27/2009 11:28:41 AM
Originally Posted By CRC:
Good for TN


As of late, we've been doing a lot of good pro-2nd things.

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Posted: 5/27/2009 11:30:45 AM
Excellent.



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Posted: 5/27/2009 11:35:37 AM

Originally Posted By LIINTLICKR:
but shouldn't the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution sorta eliminate the need for laws like this?



Not once the SCOTUS is loaded with liberal shitbags like Sotamayor.
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Posted: 5/27/2009 11:35:58 AM
Originally Posted By rob78:
Originally Posted By CRC:
Good for TN


As of late, we've been doing a lot of good pro-2nd things.



Unlike the state to the east of you
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Posted: 5/27/2009 11:40:50 AM
Even the democrats in TN are more conservative than a lot of the republicans up north and out west.

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Posted: 5/27/2009 11:54:43 AM
There needs to be some kind of fine or punishment associated with this law so some asshat police chief, mayor or governor doesn't blatantly try to ignore it. What recourse would we have if they tried to confiscate guns besides a lawsuit and cease and desist order?

Don't get me wrong, this law is a step in the right direction, but anyone who violates out 2A rights should be held criminally liable.
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Posted: 5/27/2009 11:58:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Maxheadspace:
There needs to be some kind of fine or punishment associated with this law so some asshat police chief, mayor or governor doesn't blatantly try to ignore it. What recourse would we have if they tried to confiscate guns besides a lawsuit and cease and desist order?

Don't get me wrong, this law is a step in the right direction, but anyone who violates out 2A rights should be held criminally liable.


I got an idea instead...

...statutory immunity for somebody who "resists" an unlawful confiscation.
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Posted: 5/27/2009 11:58:38 AM
BIG WOOTS!!! for Tennessee!!!
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BTW.. I am a displaced Texan.. don't much care for Virginia.
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Posted: 5/27/2009 11:59:41 AM
Good for TN.
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TN = da sexn for guns owners :)
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Posted: 5/27/2009 12:02:00 PM
I must say I have been very proud of my state over the last few months. We have many pro-gun stuff passing with overwhelming numbers.
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Posted: 5/27/2009 12:03:57 PM
A similar law has already been passed on the Federal level. Now these laws are being considered or have already been passed in a number of other states, too.

So, now if they go door to door they are acting "under color of law." They are committing felonies, while armed. In a perfect world that should get some good Federal and state prison time associated with it.
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Posted: 5/27/2009 12:53:36 PM
Following in SC's footsteps.

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Posted: 5/27/2009 1:24:15 PM
I love my state alot more here recently. Lots of good things getting taken care of.....now for the Gov to sign the Reasturant Carry Bill.



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Posted: 5/27/2009 1:29:18 PM
Originally Posted By devildog12210:
I must say I have been very proud of my state over the last few months. We have many pro-gun stuff passing with overwhelming numbers.


If I ever have to leave Texas, Tennessee is right up there with Alaska and Montana on my shopping list.
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Originally Posted By IzzyIsaac:
I love my state alot more here recently. Lots of good things getting taken care of.....now for the Gov to sign the Reasturant Carry Bill.



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Posted: 5/27/2009 1:39:29 PM
Good for TN. We need that in KY.
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Posted: 5/27/2009 1:49:43 PM
ain't worried about gun control...SHTF you can't take mine anyways...

what we need is this : http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=88809&catid=2
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Posted: 5/27/2009 1:49:50 PM
Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By LIINTLICKR:
but shouldn't the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution sorta eliminate the need for laws like this?



Not once the SCOTUS is loaded with liberal shitbags like Sotamayor.



Creation of this law could undermine the 2A in that it supports the argument that if 2A covered this a seperate law would not have to be created.
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Posted: 5/27/2009 1:53:22 PM
Originally Posted By Maxheadspace:
There needs to be some kind of fine or punishment associated with this law so some asshat police chief, mayor or governor doesn't blatantly try to ignore it. What recourse would we have if they tried to confiscate guns besides a lawsuit and cease and desist order?

Don't get me wrong, this law is a step in the right direction, but anyone who violates out 2A rights should be held criminally liable.


one would think that getting shot up would be enough
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Posted: 5/27/2009 2:01:01 PM
Originally Posted By sixnine:
Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By LIINTLICKR:
but shouldn't the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution sorta eliminate the need for laws like this?



Not once the SCOTUS is loaded with liberal shitbags like Sotamayor.



Creation of this law could undermine the 2A in that it supports the argument that if 2A covered this a seperate law would not have to be created.


That was what I was thinking too. I'd like some 2A lawyers to comment on this.

If this were a commy state like Mass. doing something like this - but with an evil intent on later voting or using activist judges to strike it down - thus taking away an individual's Constitutional right to bear arms, I'd be a lot more worried. I know there's nothing sinister going on in TN.
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Posted: 5/27/2009 2:04:11 PM
Originally Posted By Hero:
Good for TN. We need that in KY.


+1. I think we could actually get it passed here, too, assuming it doesn't get a veto from Gov Steve...
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Posted: 5/27/2009 2:08:07 PM
I love this state.

I'll never leave the hills of East TN
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Posted: 5/27/2009 2:33:14 PM
Originally Posted By LIINTLICKR:
Originally Posted By sixnine:
Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By LIINTLICKR:
but shouldn't the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution sorta eliminate the need for laws like this?



Not once the SCOTUS is loaded with liberal shitbags like Sotamayor.



Creation of this law could undermine the 2A in that it supports the argument that if 2A covered this a seperate law would not have to be created.


That was what I was thinking too. I'd like some 2A lawyers to comment on this.

If this were a commy state like Mass. doing something like this - but with an evil intent on later voting or using activist judges to strike it down - thus taking away an individual's Constitutional right to bear arms, I'd be a lot more worried. I know there's nothing sinister going on in TN.


It's easily argued that the Second Ammendment doesn't need to exist either. Self-defense is a fundamental human right, whether or not the Constitution has anything to say about it.