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Posted: 1/11/2002 6:55:57 PM EST
I'm thinking of relocating to a heavily wooded piece of land a few miles from a small city in central Missouri, and building my own home. Probably won't happen for a couple of years, but I want to get a start on the features I'd like to incorporate. (Having my own hunting land and shooting range is the biggie!!) If you were building your own dream home, what special features would you want it to have? And, those of you who have built homes in the past, are there any pitfalls I should particularly watch out for? All ideas are welcome -- many thanks!! John
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 6:58:00 PM EST
Indoor 100m shooting range!!!
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Link Posted: 1/11/2002 7:13:31 PM EST
Hot and cold running hookers. Gotta have hot and cold running hookers.
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 7:13:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/12/2002 9:21:29 AM EST by NH2112]
A well-lit 40x80 garage with paint booth, 2 frame lifts, powered overhead hoist, 14' doors on both long sides, and the usual machinery (compressor, hydraulic press, MIG welder, etc) could [b]be[/b] my house! [:D] Edited to add "with a steam cleaner/pressure washer."
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 7:15:23 PM EST
I'd have to opt for an office area where you can retreat to and be alone with your thoughts. You might even include an area there to clean and maintain your guns.
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 7:15:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By djk: Indoor 100m shooting range!!!
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There's a local guy who did that! He buried 100 yds of 6' culvert with lights and a target retrival system. Definatly need a fireplace. In floor heating is luxuriously sinful.
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 7:22:43 PM EST
I need a sauna and nice shower with huge hot water heater in my dream house. Hardwood floors, fireplace, paintings, nice view and oriental rugs are other required features.
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 7:22:49 PM EST
A kitchen with an island and granite counter tops. All done with gray granite. I'm simple. And a 1000 yard range out back with benches on my patio.
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 7:27:12 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/11/2002 7:32:16 PM EST
Originally Posted By NH2112: A well-lit 40x80 garage with paint booth, 2 frame lifts, powered overhead hoist, 14' doors on both long sides, and the usual machinery (compressor, hydraulic press, MIG welder, etc) could [b]be[/b] my house! [:D]
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Oh yeah. That's it. Throw in a couple bike lifts, enough bench space for four or five projects at a time, and a concrete slabbed secure area with a five hundred gallon tank for waste oil on the side. Take me now lord, take me now.
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 8:36:42 PM EST
I have thought of a lot of different things I would like to add to a house. Some are way too expensive to mess with, others are just cost saving measures that eventually pay form themselves. First I would not bother with a large hot water heater. I would buy 2 or 3 of those heat water as you go heaters. The draw back in an isolated place is they are gas. If you don't have propane, or gas runs to your site, that doesn't help. But if you can go that route, I would combine it with a solar heater as well. That way it jump starts you for hot water so you don't wait so long for it. Solar for electricity too(one of the very expensive ones, that might pay off eventually.) Definatly a big garage. Even if you don't work on cars or bikes, you can never have enough space. The whole house wired. Every wall, or floor near an exposed wall would have outlets for phone, cable, and network. Circular design. Not round, but the ability to get all the way around the house without having to back track, and if it is a two story, at least 3 ways down. Also after seeing that preview for the safe room movie, one of those too, but obviously with lots of guns.
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 9:12:32 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 9:26:49 PM EST
a wall of breasts
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 9:29:05 PM EST
--a large kitchen, they cant be too big, especially if you have a large family. --a large garage, same reasons --a large gun room, obviously, with preplanned security measures like reinforced solid walls and doors. --a work area apart of the garage. and of course a MANs room, with beer frige, pool table, guns on the wall, big screen tv and a MANs size lazyboy chair conviently next to the beer frige, dont forget the pics of half nekked women holding guns on the wall. [:D]
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 9:31:16 PM EST
Been working on convincing the wife of this necessity myself. Got a plan for a three BR 2 bath place with great room, family room, and utility room - and now outside, we have the "shop" - a big building, maybe the size of a three car garage (2 cars if there's an upstairs office), with an office area, a reloading area, a woodworking area, and a general mess about with tools area. Of course, it's all on enough ground that if I wanted to I could add on later - to the shop that is. Features? The instant on water heaters aer nice, but whatever you do, don't just throw it on a slab - you'll have a devil of a time staying warm, and with 'in the floor heating' you'll pay bigger utilities. Best to put a basement under it, and finish it off as a party room
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 9:57:42 PM EST
A walk-in gun vault. Also, pick out the windows you want by make and model – otherwise the contractor will use the cheapest ones he can find. Actually, try to pick out everything by name! As you and/or your wife get older, stairs may become a problem. If you’ve looking at a multi-level home, think about having the option later of living pretty much on a single floor.
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 10:01:57 PM EST
One of them chandeliers with them big hooters all over! No, really.... I would consider the already-mentioned underground or subfloor vault/gun room, which could also double as a safehaven. Great for placing all your big valuables when away to the big city also. I would also look into at least 'near' self-sufficiency when it comes to power. Solar is getting better and better. Smart move. Smart. Strictly for fun: A Boys Game Room is a must for your home on the range. For things such as a pool table, bar, big screen, GUN cabinet, trophies, spotting scope setup. Hold the planters, please. An indoor jacuzzi if you're really loaded. All wood paneling is a "must". I'll quit there...I think I said too much.
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 10:30:00 PM EST
A very secure walk in vault, the previously mentioned 40x80 shop (wouldn't change a thing!), and just to have the house built at a quality level like they were in the 1950's! You know, big steel beams, block walls with brick or stone face all the way to the eaves, solid wood interior doors, actual 2x12 floor trusses and rafters (as opposed to those particle/glue composite jobs they use nowadays), actual 1x4 tongue and groove roof "sheeting" instead of ply or particle board, etc., etc.. A house that costs $150k with today's build methods would cost twice that to build right. They make it sound like the new stuff is better, but I think newer houses are crap, although the floor plans are nice. For me, I'll take a big old field stone victorian farm house any day!
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 10:53:46 PM EST
You need underground NBC protection shelter from Radius Defense. http://www.radius-defense.com/product.html Hehehehe ;-)
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 10:59:58 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/11/2002 11:05:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/11/2002 11:11:55 PM EST by cc48510]
Seriously, I have designed homes with: 1) Indoor Range 2) Indoor Firearms Museum (To Display Your Collection) 3) Weapons Armory 4) ATF Proof (Fireproof/Bomb Proof/Bullet Proof) Bomb Shelter with Self-Contained Air Supply And CS Gas Filtration. 5) Scene Rooms. Stuff Like A School Room, Courthouse, Etc...for spiced up sex. 6) Machine Room for Assembling Firearms, etc... 7) Auto. Shop with Sub-Basement for Storing Tanks. 8) Really Deep (30 Feet or More) Pool For SCUBA Practice. 9) Full Casino for Personal Use of Course. 10) Full Bar Stocked With Liquor. 11) Control Room with Video Monitors and IR/Heat Sensors and Tresspass/Intrsuion Detectors so you always know when the ATF is coming and where they are. 12) Electronically Sealable Rooms to allow you to remotely lock the ATF in a Room(s). 13) Underground Escape Tunnels. Did I mention, I was inspired by Waco to create this design.
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 11:15:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/11/2002 11:16:29 PM EST by cc48510]
Of course the design on top is supposed to be in water. This requires anybody approaching to cross the water. The house would have M60s in each Tower and M2HBs on the roof along with Missle Launchers and Mortars. Oh, and on the 3rd Level up there would be a Helipad, but the Pad would be covered 180 degrees with SAWs.
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 11:53:02 PM EST
Highest grade foundation,the kind w/a walk in sub-basement under basement w/thick 3Xrobarreinforced walls'n roof if you know what I mean.Fully stocked[;)]And a perimiter alarm!
Link Posted: 1/12/2002 1:02:10 AM EST
A motocross track...to keep in shape. - Anarki
Link Posted: 1/12/2002 4:14:19 AM EST
I had mine, A big Country Cape in Goochland VA. Huge kitchen, 3100 sq feet with a basement, on 5 acres. Best of all it had a natural 25ft berm on the property so we could shoot whenever we wanted. 2 weeks after we moved in the company I work for told me I had to move to NC. We only got to spend a year at that house but it was my Dream home
Link Posted: 1/12/2002 4:16:38 AM EST
Thanks, all, for the great ideas -- keep 'em coming -- I'm taking notes!! [beer]
Link Posted: 1/12/2002 4:29:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/12/2002 4:31:46 AM EST by Arock]
cc48510...adequate design with one minor shortcoming. No woman in the world's gonna live anyplace that ain't got a closet in the master. You and me can make do with a pile in the corner. Women no. Womenz think bdrm-bath-closet are all one thing. [;)]
Link Posted: 1/12/2002 8:38:17 AM EST
I'd build a large workshop, with a small apartment above. The apartment should have an outside entry that doesn't pass through the garage. Use the apartment as tempos\rary quarters while building, and use the area below as a shop. After the house is completed, use the area below as a shop / garage space. I second the recommendation to add Cat 3 / Cat 5 / Coax in each room. If your budget allows, you may want to include some fiber as well. If this is you retirement home, take a long, long look ahead. It is entirely likely that you or a loved one will have mobility issues as you age. I'd recommend planning an entry you can use in a wheelchair (wide front door, and wide doors to a bedroom / kitchen / bathroom), cabinets and appliances in the kitchen that can be used from a wheelchair (with a removeable cabinet below the sink), and a large shower without a curb you can enter in a wheelchair. Accessability items stand out like a sore thumb when retrofitted to a home and tend not to work very well, but can be valuable and aestetically pleasing when incorporated into the design. Also, you may never need them, but given the aging of the population, they can add greatly to the value of your home if you decide to sell.
Link Posted: 1/12/2002 9:35:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/12/2002 9:36:59 AM EST by MadBadger]
1. A 100 yard (at least) range within walking distance from the house. Preferably with a covered area to shoot from as well as a three (or four) sided bermed enclosure for practical exercises. 110 power outlets and water would be nice under or near the covered area. 2. A detached shop with a roll up door at each end. Needs a loft/attic area for storage and a vehicle lift, or at least a pit to get under the vehicle and be able to work. 3. A large, discrete (ok, hidden), walk-in gun vault inside or under the house, preferably in the basement. 4. A covered porch at the front and a covered patio at the rear of the house with a permanent brick or stone barbeque.
Link Posted: 1/12/2002 1:16:49 PM EST
The heck with a 100 yard range, go for 600. I'd also want a range with military pop up targets. An indoor range for air guns or .22s would also be cool.
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Link Posted: 1/12/2002 1:31:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/12/2002 6:24:36 PM EST by RBAD]
Wiring, Wiring, Wiring -- and MORE Wiring ! [:D] I pre-wired our new house and am loving it... [img]www.web-comm.com/ool/DSCN0006.jpg[/img] The rest of the pics are here: [url]www.web-comm.com/ool[/url]
Link Posted: 1/12/2002 1:58:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/12/2002 1:59:13 PM EST by Skammy]
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Link Posted: 1/12/2002 3:04:24 PM EST
Everyone's vault and range ideas are great. I'm not sure if anyone mentioned buried skeet and trap houses for shotgunning Swimming pool With a diving board Hot tub that can be private.....he he he Stables. Dog runs..... Big ass trees And two MUST HAVES. Fishing Pond that you can cast almost all the way across STOCKED with Florida bass and feeding stock. And of course a par 3 green that requires a 100 - 250 yard pitch across said fishing pond. (If you have room for a shooting range, then you should have room for golf....so mark the yardages in 50's.......
Link Posted: 1/12/2002 4:03:00 PM EST
I like the idea where the house is mostly a garage with a small apartment-like area. Gotta have a range and a bigass gunsafe too. Perhaps a 1/4 mile dragstrip too. Entertainment room with 200+ DVD changer, bigass HDTV, satellite TV. Ooh, and a velodrome too. Let's add the ultimate SHTF security system. A network of computer-controlled SAWs linked to motion sensors to blow the hell out of anything that moves. Add in some AAA and SAMs. Underground bunker where you and your friends can chill when the government comes for you and your evil rifles.
Link Posted: 1/12/2002 6:38:15 PM EST
Sorry, John. I forgot to add one important factor. Build it in Texas!!! [:D]
Link Posted: 1/12/2002 6:48:52 PM EST
Trees in the back yard and a lake in the front.
Link Posted: 1/12/2002 7:11:43 PM EST
a fully equipt machine shop and woodworking shop A fully equipt bay in the garage for servicing all my vehicles. fully wired house.. 110,220,cat5/fo/catv/sound/fone and coax (I'm a ham [:)] ) closed circuit tv lighting control for the whole house. house wide [red]Red[/red] lighting system a home theater walk in vault/safe room all bedrooms would be of a nice size each with their own bathrooms a study/library a fully equipt Ham shack! big kitchen and dining room oh, and a couple bedrooms for the wife and kid.
Link Posted: 1/12/2002 9:04:05 PM EST
Neighbors ... But no closer then a mile. -Confusion
Link Posted: 1/12/2002 9:23:21 PM EST
urinal
Link Posted: 1/13/2002 10:27:22 AM EST
Thanks, guys! One feature I'm planning is an indoor airgun range -- a simple long hallway running the length of the back of the house, for practice during winter months when it's freezing out. Any other ideas are most welcome -- have gotten several good suggestions here! I appreciate it! [:)] John
Link Posted: 1/13/2002 11:05:29 AM EST
A fully-equipped machine shop, connected to a large garage, right next to a huge kitchen. And enormous quantities of "stock" for the machine shop. Did I forget to say, "No neighbors?"
Link Posted: 1/13/2002 12:51:48 PM EST
How can ya have a dream house with out a mote and watch towers?!?!?!? Not to mention the secret passages throughout the house with tunnels leading at least 1/4 mile away if not further. And build it with a birds eye view of the local nudist colony of course.
Link Posted: 1/13/2002 1:26:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/13/2002 1:36:52 PM EST by 5subslr5]
A large well thought out utility room-pantry. Put in a big, deep sink. I've lived in one bunch of houses (only one at the time however) and only one had a decently thought out utility room-pantry. Build the thing about 1.5 X larger than needed and it will only be about one-third too small. ----------------------------------------------- Put in about twice as many electrical outlets as you can possibly ever need and then make them four-gangers. ------------------------------------------------ Kitchen: A gas cook-top, double-built in electric ovens and two built-in microwaves. Be a sport and put in about a $300.00 Maytag garbage disposer. Put in a high-end Maytag diswasher. Too many people build fine houses and then cheap-out on appliances. If you have a large family or entertain consider building-in a separate, under counter ice maker. ------------------------------------------------ Insulate each inside room wall for both energy efficiency and sound. Costs roughly $500 bucks. ------------------------------------------------ Put in two high efficency HVAC units - gas for heating obviously - even if your footage only calls for one. ------------------------------------------------ For a truly remarkable spatial effect use floor to ceiling doors. If possible build with at least nine foot ceilings - ten feet be better - and use solid wood, floor to ceiling doors. Somehow gives the illusion of about 20% or so more space than actual. ----------------------------------------------- If you are going to build with a three car garage then add about another one-half garage designed for storage. ------------------------------------------------ For wiring see RBAD above ------------------------------------------------ In scanning previous posts some one already mentioned multiple (gas) hot water heaters - a good idea. Solar for an alternative power source ( for the hotwater heaters) has been around a while and also a good idea. ------------------------------------------------ Consider in your home electrical wiring scheme those must have electric users and wire those so as they may be powered by a generator.
Link Posted: 1/14/2002 3:56:26 PM EST
Thanks, folks! One last question: Does anyone here have any experience with "earth contact" houses (?) I'm told these tunnel back into a hillside and have some advantages of lower utility and maintenance costs than traditional houses. One thing that appeals to me is the reduced number of ways to enter the house to burglarize it. I have a friend who lives near where I plan to relocate and being in a rural area, he's been targeted for burglary twice already. First time they got some stuff; he installed an alarm, and the second time they tried it, they gave up when the alarm went off. John
Link Posted: 1/14/2002 4:37:24 PM EST
Racquetball Court Indoor 25m Range with adjoining gun room Outdoor 300m Range 200 Yard Par 3 Golf Hole With Greens at 100, 150, 200 and a net at the end so I can break out the Titleist 975D if I want. HUGE Kitchen! Everything else is gravy.
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[Last Edit: 1/14/2002 5:00:31 PM EST by MulsanneArnage]
Heated pool, hot tub, hidden concrete gun/ordnance room, paved 3 mile road course, motocross track, full bar by pool, pistol and rifle range, heli-pad, lake for fishing and Jet-skiing, 5-10 car garage. Just for starters.. [beer]
Link Posted: 1/14/2002 5:04:18 PM EST
Hottub to be attached to the house yet able to be opened to the outside with big skylights. Walk-in secret gun room with cleaning/maintenance ability. Small refrigerator in the bedroom.
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