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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:30:08 AM EST
I was supposed to get a package from UPS yesterday, a OCTA versipack by Maxpedtion. My package never came. Checked the tracking today and it said this

"PKG DELAY-ADD'L SECURITY CHECK BY GOV'T OR OTHER AGENCY- BEYOND UPS CONTROL"

It kinda freaked me out. I have ordered ammo and hi-cap mags lately.

Has anyone seen this before?
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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:32:26 AM EST
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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:32:35 AM EST
Another AR15.com-er had the same thing a couple weeks ago.

WTF?
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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:32:37 AM EST
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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:33:11 AM EST
2nd time this has been posted in the last week or two.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:34:55 AM EST
So the government can delay, open, and inspect packages sent through a private/independent carrier?

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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:36:09 AM EST
Originally Posted By AllserviceBilliards:
2nd time this has been posted in the last week or two.


3rd, i think. wasn't #2 an AK that was shipped to an ARFcommer's FFL?


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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:39:43 AM EST
and so it begins...
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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:40:00 AM EST
Check the e-mail again. I got one yesterday with a downloadable file that was supposed to be the shippers info ( that had a virus in it) - but the UPS was not the "United Parcel Service" it was the "United Postal Service" not the "United States Postal Service" and I hadn't ordered anything.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:44:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By Black-X:
So the government can delay, open, and inspect packages sent through a private/independent carrier?

-X


they probably have the mandate since it's related to inter-state commerce.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:45:02 AM EST
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Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:
Check the e-mail again. I got one yesterday with a downloadable file that was supposed to be the shippers info ( that had a virus in it) - but the UPS was not the "United Parcel Service" it was the "United Postal Service" not the "United States Postal Service" and I hadn't ordered anything.


yes there is this virus going around too, got it here at work. like he said, it read "United Postal Service" but have the email of xxxxx@ups.com
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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:46:53 AM EST
This is why when I placed my last large order with Silver State, I paid extra to have a freight company ship it.

My order showed up as expected, stacked neatly on a small pallet.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:48:41 AM EST
The email I got was from the shipper. And the tracking number link goes to UPS website.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:52:57 AM EST
I work for UPS in customer service and can tell you YES the Gubberment can hold a package for whatever reason. I don't know why they would decide to put a hold one the ammo. Unless there were no markings on the box indicating it is an ORM-D package and the shipper has been shipping ammo without following the guidelines. Other than that I can't explain any other reason.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 10:53:37 AM EST
I had a package delayed thru UPS. I don't remember exactly what it said, but it was some sort of "internal activity" code. But once the package was going again that tracking info that had the message was deleted. Only delayed arrival a day or two.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 11:01:35 AM EST
From another thread:

None at this time...
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Posted: 3/3/2009 11:03:45 AM EST
Originally Posted By RR:
I was supposed to get a package from UPS yesterday, a OCTA versipack by Maxpedtion. My package never came. Checked the tracking today and it said this

"PKG DELAY-ADD'L SECURITY CHECK BY GOV'T OR OTHER AGENCY- BEYOND UPS CONTROL"

It kinda freaked me out. I have ordered ammo and hi-cap mags lately.

Has anyone seen this before?



Was it international? Or an Air package(meaning would it have had to be loaded on a plane)?

I can almost understand if it was a rifle being shipped to Alaska but a small pack?

I'll ask some sups tomorrow and see if they've ever heard about these intrusions before.


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Posted: 3/3/2009 11:07:42 AM EST
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=75&t=828657
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Posted: 3/3/2009 11:10:04 AM EST
It was shipped UPS ground from CA. It is a fanny pack, not ammo, not a gun, gun parts etc.
Maybe this is just a routine type of thing, but I get alot of stuff shipped by UPS and I have never seen this before, so I thought it was kinda strange.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 12:00:45 PM EST
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Missed above post. This can and does happen with Air, but ground is new to me. Sounds like a TSA thing.

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Posted: 3/3/2009 12:15:00 PM EST
Just got my package. Just the UPS guy, no agents showed up! Did not ask the UPS guy any questions because I doubt that he would know anything.
The package had not been opened.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 12:17:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By RR:
Just got my package. Just the UPS guy, no agents showed up! Did not ask the UPS guy any questions because I doubt that he would know anything.
The package had not been opened.

Pop that sucker in the microwave for 87 minutes.

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Posted: 3/3/2009 12:42:44 PM EST
Maybe we are all on a list somewhere...
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Posted: 3/3/2009 1:14:29 PM EST
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Could just be that a plane/trailer with your shit on it was held up, for whatever reason.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 1:16:10 PM EST
Probably Where MY PMAGS are that were due to Arrive Today!!! NO UPS YET>>> Big Brown+Big Brother...l oh crap they just pulled up no shit
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Posted: 3/3/2009 1:18:33 PM EST
....Is non-weaponry related stuff being stopped, too?
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Start of new trend?
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Posted: 3/3/2009 2:07:30 PM EST
I had it happen on an upper and a few pmags I had sent to me... It was only held up for two days though.. I figured it to be becasue the douchebag I bought them from included a dummy gernade in the package..
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Posted: 3/3/2009 2:08:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By TearsInRain:
Could just be that a plane/trailer with your shit on it was held up, for whatever reason.



After I read the post about it not being opened, that's what I was thinking too.

The trailer may have been held up for some reason. Perhaps someone else's package on the same trailer had to be searched?

Maybe it was heading to the border....
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Posted: 3/3/2009 2:10:57 PM EST
Originally Posted By stoner63a:
Another AR15.com-er had the same thing a couple weeks ago.

WTF?


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Posted: 3/3/2009 2:12:58 PM EST
Originally Posted By Black-X:
So the government can delay, open, and inspect packages sent through a private/independent carrier?

-X


Since this is not protected under any federal guidelines... yes.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 2:15:17 PM EST
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This is why when I placed my last large order with Silver State, I paid extra to have a freight company ship it.

My order showed up as expected, stacked neatly on a small pallet.


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Posted: 3/3/2009 2:17:26 PM EST
hmm...maybe thats whats going on with my shipment...wish I had the tracking number for some reason no one has got it to me. I was told it shipped last Monday and my FFL still has not got it!
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Posted: 3/3/2009 2:18:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RR:
I was supposed to get a package from UPS yesterday, a OCTA versipack by Maxpedtion. My package never came. Checked the tracking today and it said this

"PKG DELAY-ADD'L SECURITY CHECK BY GOV'T OR OTHER AGENCY- BEYOND UPS CONTROL"

It kinda freaked me out. I have ordered ammo and hi-cap mags lately.

Has anyone seen this before?


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Posted: 3/3/2009 2:26:25 PM EST
This never has happened before all the sudden we get 3 arfcommers in a month.

and thats only that we know of.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 3:08:41 PM EST
I was not trying to suggest that there was some sinister government plot, I just had never seen this before and thought it was odd. Here is the tracking progress from UPS.

AUSTIN,
TX, US 03/03/2009 4:11 P.M. DELIVERY
03/03/2009 5:10 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY
AUSTIN,
TX, US 03/02/2009 9:52 P.M. PKG DELAY-ADD'L SECURITY CHECK BY GOV'T OR OTHER AGENCY- BEYOND UPS CONTROL
03/02/2009 7:19 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY
03/02/2009 6:43 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
DALLAS,
TX, US 03/02/2009 2:47 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
DALLAS,
TX, US 03/01/2009 4:16 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
CERRITOS,
CA, US 02/25/2009 10:05 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
02/25/2009 8:15 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN
US 02/25/2009 7:36 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED

One thing that was interesting to me is that my package went out for delivery on 3/2 at 7:19am and at 9:52am it was delayed for a security check. I am guessing it was on the truck at that time. Maybe it was not just my package but something else on the truck. Maybe there was a legimate reason for this, maybe not. It is interesting that others on this forum have had the same thing happen.
I hope it is just a routine thing and not gun owners being monitored.
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Posted: 3/3/2009 3:16:21 PM EST

Some additional stories of checks:

http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=11778.0

Hope no one is ordering perscriptions they should not have

http://pharmacywatchers.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/521109892/m/9341092201
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