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6/21/2017 8:25:40 PM
Posted: 3/3/2009 11:30:08 AM EDT
I was supposed to get a package from UPS yesterday, a OCTA versipack by Maxpedtion. My package never came. Checked the tracking today and it said this

"PKG DELAY-ADD'L SECURITY CHECK BY GOV'T OR OTHER AGENCY- BEYOND UPS CONTROL"

It kinda freaked me out. I have ordered ammo and hi-cap mags lately.

Has anyone seen this before?
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 11:32:26 AM EDT
Dibs on everything!!
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 11:32:35 AM EDT
Another AR15.com-er had the same thing a couple weeks ago.

WTF?
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 11:32:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2009 11:33:02 AM EDT by sslocal]
Okay, first one here. Hide your dog. ETA: Crap. missed it.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 11:33:11 AM EDT
2nd time this has been posted in the last week or two.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 11:34:55 AM EDT
So the government can delay, open, and inspect packages sent through a private/independent carrier?

-X
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 11:36:09 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AllserviceBilliards:
2nd time this has been posted in the last week or two.


3rd, i think. wasn't #2 an AK that was shipped to an ARFcommer's FFL?


Link Posted: 3/3/2009 11:39:43 AM EDT
and so it begins...
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 11:40:00 AM EDT
Check the e-mail again. I got one yesterday with a downloadable file that was supposed to be the shippers info ( that had a virus in it) - but the UPS was not the "United Parcel Service" it was the "United Postal Service" not the "United States Postal Service" and I hadn't ordered anything.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 11:44:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Black-X:
So the government can delay, open, and inspect packages sent through a private/independent carrier?

-X


they probably have the mandate since it's related to inter-state commerce.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 11:45:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2009 11:45:14 AM EDT by Guntoting_Spartan]
Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:
Check the e-mail again. I got one yesterday with a downloadable file that was supposed to be the shippers info ( that had a virus in it) - but the UPS was not the "United Parcel Service" it was the "United Postal Service" not the "United States Postal Service" and I hadn't ordered anything.


yes there is this virus going around too, got it here at work. like he said, it read "United Postal Service" but have the email of xxxxx@ups.com
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 11:46:53 AM EDT
This is why when I placed my last large order with Silver State, I paid extra to have a freight company ship it.

My order showed up as expected, stacked neatly on a small pallet.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 11:48:41 AM EDT
The email I got was from the shipper. And the tracking number link goes to UPS website.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 11:52:57 AM EDT
I work for UPS in customer service and can tell you YES the Gubberment can hold a package for whatever reason. I don't know why they would decide to put a hold one the ammo. Unless there were no markings on the box indicating it is an ORM-D package and the shipper has been shipping ammo without following the guidelines. Other than that I can't explain any other reason.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 11:53:37 AM EDT
I had a package delayed thru UPS. I don't remember exactly what it said, but it was some sort of "internal activity" code. But once the package was going again that tracking info that had the message was deleted. Only delayed arrival a day or two.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 12:01:35 PM EDT
From another thread:

Link Posted: 3/3/2009 12:03:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RR:
I was supposed to get a package from UPS yesterday, a OCTA versipack by Maxpedtion. My package never came. Checked the tracking today and it said this

"PKG DELAY-ADD'L SECURITY CHECK BY GOV'T OR OTHER AGENCY- BEYOND UPS CONTROL"

It kinda freaked me out. I have ordered ammo and hi-cap mags lately.

Has anyone seen this before?



Was it international? Or an Air package(meaning would it have had to be loaded on a plane)?

I can almost understand if it was a rifle being shipped to Alaska but a small pack?

I'll ask some sups tomorrow and see if they've ever heard about these intrusions before.


Link Posted: 3/3/2009 12:07:42 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 12:10:04 PM EDT
It was shipped UPS ground from CA. It is a fanny pack, not ammo, not a gun, gun parts etc.
Maybe this is just a routine type of thing, but I get alot of stuff shipped by UPS and I have never seen this before, so I thought it was kinda strange.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 1:00:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2009 1:01:44 PM EDT by JoseCuervo]
Missed above post. This can and does happen with Air, but ground is new to me. Sounds like a TSA thing.

Rob
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 1:15:00 PM EDT
Just got my package. Just the UPS guy, no agents showed up! Did not ask the UPS guy any questions because I doubt that he would know anything.
The package had not been opened.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 1:17:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RR:
Just got my package. Just the UPS guy, no agents showed up! Did not ask the UPS guy any questions because I doubt that he would know anything.
The package had not been opened.

Pop that sucker in the microwave for 87 minutes.

It's the only way to be sure.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 1:42:44 PM EDT
Maybe we are all on a list somewhere...
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 2:14:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2009 2:14:43 PM EDT by TearsInRain]
Could just be that a plane/trailer with your shit on it was held up, for whatever reason.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 2:16:10 PM EDT
Probably Where MY PMAGS are that were due to Arrive Today!!! NO UPS YET>>> Big Brown+Big Brother...l oh crap they just pulled up no shit
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 2:18:33 PM EDT
....Is non-weaponry related stuff being stopped, too?
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 3:02:30 PM EDT
Start of new trend?
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 3:07:30 PM EDT
I had it happen on an upper and a few pmags I had sent to me... It was only held up for two days though.. I figured it to be becasue the douchebag I bought them from included a dummy gernade in the package..
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 3:08:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TearsInRain:
Could just be that a plane/trailer with your shit on it was held up, for whatever reason.



After I read the post about it not being opened, that's what I was thinking too.

The trailer may have been held up for some reason. Perhaps someone else's package on the same trailer had to be searched?

Maybe it was heading to the border....
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 3:10:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stoner63a:
Another AR15.com-er had the same thing a couple weeks ago.

WTF?


I know, BIG BROTHER HERE WE COME
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 3:12:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Black-X:
So the government can delay, open, and inspect packages sent through a private/independent carrier?

-X


Since this is not protected under any federal guidelines... yes.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 3:15:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ftwm:
This is why when I placed my last large order with Silver State, I paid extra to have a freight company ship it.

My order showed up as expected, stacked neatly on a small pallet.


How much did you order?
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 3:17:26 PM EDT
hmm...maybe thats whats going on with my shipment...wish I had the tracking number for some reason no one has got it to me. I was told it shipped last Monday and my FFL still has not got it!
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 3:18:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2009 3:22:32 PM EDT by AR10-A2]
Originally Posted By RR:
I was supposed to get a package from UPS yesterday, a OCTA versipack by Maxpedtion. My package never came. Checked the tracking today and it said this

"PKG DELAY-ADD'L SECURITY CHECK BY GOV'T OR OTHER AGENCY- BEYOND UPS CONTROL"

It kinda freaked me out. I have ordered ammo and hi-cap mags lately.

Has anyone seen this before?


The microscopic chinese microphone-cameras that the obama administration requires to be implanted into all shipments are on backorder

Link Posted: 3/3/2009 3:26:25 PM EDT
This never has happened before all the sudden we get 3 arfcommers in a month.

and thats only that we know of.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 3:30:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 4:08:41 PM EDT
I was not trying to suggest that there was some sinister government plot, I just had never seen this before and thought it was odd. Here is the tracking progress from UPS.

AUSTIN,
TX, US 03/03/2009 4:11 P.M. DELIVERY
03/03/2009 5:10 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY
AUSTIN,
TX, US 03/02/2009 9:52 P.M. PKG DELAY-ADD'L SECURITY CHECK BY GOV'T OR OTHER AGENCY- BEYOND UPS CONTROL
03/02/2009 7:19 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY
03/02/2009 6:43 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
DALLAS,
TX, US 03/02/2009 2:47 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
DALLAS,
TX, US 03/01/2009 4:16 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
CERRITOS,
CA, US 02/25/2009 10:05 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
02/25/2009 8:15 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN
US 02/25/2009 7:36 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED

One thing that was interesting to me is that my package went out for delivery on 3/2 at 7:19am and at 9:52am it was delayed for a security check. I am guessing it was on the truck at that time. Maybe it was not just my package but something else on the truck. Maybe there was a legimate reason for this, maybe not. It is interesting that others on this forum have had the same thing happen.
I hope it is just a routine thing and not gun owners being monitored.
Link Posted: 3/3/2009 4:16:21 PM EDT

Some additional stories of checks:

http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=11778.0

Hope no one is ordering perscriptions they should not have

http://pharmacywatchers.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/521109892/m/9341092201
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