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Posted: 12/29/2001 7:39:16 PM EDT
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Dude, they don't use anesthesia on circumcisions.
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Posted: 12/29/2001 7:40:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Hey Sherm, congradulations!!
I'll pass on answering because your son will be able to find me in the future and I don't want to be responsible for whether or not he was circumsized. |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 7:40:45 PM EDT
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Ummmm....there's a good reason why baby boys scream when they are circumcised. And it's the same reason you would cry out, too, if somebody put the equivalent of an X-Acto knife to your penis.
IT HURTS!!!! Why inflict pain on somebody that you would not want inflicted on yourself? There is no valid medical reason to circumcise a person, at any age. Zip, nada, zilch, nichts. Only cultural and religious reasons- and I'm not going to touch the putative validity of those reasons with a barge pole..... |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 7:41:18 PM EDT
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There was an entire thread dedicated to this topic not but a month ago. Can anyone post a link?
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Posted: 12/29/2001 7:48:31 PM EDT
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I would say don't do it there is more nerve endings in the foreskin and any removal of nerve endings could limit the amount of sensation he will have once he is old enough to have sex. I know it is a long time away but why do something to him now he will have to live with for ever. I can see all the arguments from the past regarding to hygine but this is the 21st century and medicine is a lot more advanced than the 1950's. I think it is an unnecessary procedure and when I have a son he won't be getting it done.
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Posted: 12/29/2001 8:07:26 PM EDT
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We use Lidocaine 1% when we do them here.
cpermd |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 8:09:35 PM EDT
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We decided to circumcise our son mainly for health and cleanliness reasons. There have been several members of my family get nasty penis infections from not being kept clean. I also worked at a children's shelter in college and saw several 0-6 year olds come in with inflamed and caked shut pokers. I also read that many years ago in Germany a doctor noticed that none of the women he treated for uterine cancer were Jewish, and after further research, attributed that factor to the Jewish men being circumcised, and thus not sticking dirty Johnsons in their wives. Men also have a much lower rate of penile cancer and other difficulties when circumcised. I think God had more on His mind than just a chuckle when He told Abraham what he wanted.
No one in our family is Jewish, but we decided to have a Rabbi (a Mohel, as they're called) do the deed. My son is about a year old now, so this took place about a year ago. We looked into the hospital and other area doctors to perform the operation, but we didn't like their method. They all wanted to do the "plasti-bell" or whatever it's called. Two plastic rings are used, with the foreskin stretched between them. The rings are tightly clamped together and left there until the foreskin basically rots off, --several weeks. YUK. No thanks. The Mohel used a special surgical steel clamp, a special pair of forceps, and a scalpel. Forceps pull the foreskin up over the tip, clamp pinches down with the penis on one side and the foreskin on the other, and scalpel cuts the needed foreskin off in one, clean swipe. Clamp is released, penis head pokes back through the remaining skin, done. Treat with Neosporin and clean gauze at every diaper change for about a week. A little crying, no big deal. If you do it on the 8th day after birth (as outlined in the Bible), the boy's vitamin K (blood clotting) factor and natural painkillers are at their peak. The mohel said some boys practically sleep through it. The rabbi that did the operation lives in St. Louis and makes his living travelling around for tips (ha, bad joke, but it was his). Email me if you want his name. I was very impressed and would recommend him without reservation. |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 8:30:21 PM EDT
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There's only one reason to do it. Women prefer a high and tight hair cut on the little solider. So to help your son's chances in the future get him cut now.
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Posted: 12/29/2001 8:41:24 PM EDT
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Put a damn helmet on that soldier! Lose the sheath!
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Posted: 12/29/2001 8:51:56 PM EDT
[#10]
This is a little off topic. My sisters son was born with out eye lids. They used his foreskin to reconstruct his eye lids. It is amazing what modern medicine can do. He is almost completely normal. The only problem is he is a litte cock-eyed......I crack my self up
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Posted: 12/29/2001 8:52:25 PM EDT
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would say don't do it there is more nerve endings in the foreskin and any removal of nerve endings could limit the amount of sensation he will have once he is old enough to have sex. I know it is a long time away but why do something to him now he will have to live with for ever. I can see all the arguments from the past regarding to hygine but this is the 21st century and medicine is a lot more advanced than the 1950's. I think it is an unnecessary procedure and when I have a son he won't be getting it done. john While this may be true, I've never had any trouble with sensation. If it is too sensitive he might have a problem with not lasting long enough. You wouldn't want your sons' wife to be unhappy because he was a minute steak. On a more serious note, not having the circumcision can potentially introduce more frequent bladder and/or other infections if not kept very clean. |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 8:52:25 PM EDT
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100% Un-Cut.
Leave the little rascal whole and teach him to wash his dick! Sheesh. |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 8:53:02 PM EDT
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Nip that tip!
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Posted: 12/29/2001 8:57:35 PM EDT
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My 2nd son was born yesterday today he was circumsized. We have it done for cleanliness purposes as I have family members who aren't and there can be infection problems etc. my sister is a nurse and I have 2 aunts also nurses infections in this area can be extremely problematic and you don't want the details though they are few and far between. It really comes down to your personal view. By the way our Dr gives meds to the boys on request and my son was sleeping within 3-5 minutes after.
Congratulations on your adoption let me know how it goes - this will be our last of our own, too hard on my wife twice! We are thinking that if we decide to have the little girl we also want to adopt but don't know alot about it YET. Boomin |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 9:04:40 PM EDT
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Did 'ya hear the one about the Rabbi who collected all the foreskins he took performing bris? He made them into "convertible wallets". They normally fit into your back pocket, but if you rub them, they turn into briefcases!
I vote for circumcision. My parents had me done and I suffered no noticeable ill effects. I have had friends who have experienced infections. (Anyone familiar with the term "smegma"? [puke]) |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 9:09:48 PM EDT
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Smegma is the leading cause of Phimosis...
If you really want to know: The Fate of the Foreskin--- [url]http://www.cirp.org/library/general/gairdner/[/url] Is Circumsision really necessary?--- [url]http://www.cirp.org/library/treatment/phimosis/dewan/[/url] By God, I've done MY duty today! "Circumcision?" "No, thanks; I just had a bar of soap!" [shock] |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 9:10:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: Nip that tip! ditto |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 9:32:02 PM EDT
[#18]
Cut.
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Posted: 12/29/2001 10:18:30 PM EDT
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The painful part may have been true years ago but here's how they did my 5 yr old--they took a rubber ring,like the ring on the base of a condom,put it on his penis when he was born.It fit snug so it stopped the circulation to the foreskin.A week or so later,the ring and foreskin fall off.No pain whatsoever.
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Posted: 12/29/2001 10:46:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: The painful part may have been true years ago but here's how they did my 5 yr old--they took a rubber ring,like the ring on the base of a condom,put it on his penis when he was born.It fit snug so it stopped the circulation to the foreskin.A week or so later,the ring and foreskin fall off.No pain whatsoever. Now, that's what we'll do to bin Laden when we catch him... Put the ring around his neck; circumcise his eyelids, and make him watch the videos of Sept. 11 until his head falls off. A DICKHEAD IS A DICKHEAD. |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 10:55:59 PM EDT
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[b]"Ctrl" + "X"[/b]
[b]"Ctrl" + "X"[/b] [b]"Ctrl" + "X"[/b] [b]"Ctrl" + "X"[/b] |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 11:07:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: The painful part may have been true years ago but here's how they did my 5 yr old--they took a rubber ring,like the ring on the base of a condom,put it on his penis when he was born.It fit snug so it stopped the circulation to the foreskin.A week or so later,the ring and foreskin fall off.No pain whatsoever. I have to add the fact that the doc had to use the biggest ring he had.I was one proud daddy when he told me that. |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 11:21:43 PM EDT
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Milhouse
My sisters son was born with out eye lids. They used his foreskin to reconstruct his eye lids. He is almost completely normal. The only problem is he is a litte cock-eyed......I crack my self up Dude, that is just wrong. My advice. Nip his bud |
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Posted: 12/29/2001 11:56:13 PM EDT
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I think sexual mutilation of male children is a pretty gross ritual still practiced in America. If your cool with this, just remember to have it done to your female children when they are born. Female circumcision is removing all the extra skin around the outside of the vagina, as the fold and flaps smell and are prone to infection if personal hygiene is sloppy. It is very popular in 3rd world countries.
/gross off |
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Posted: 12/30/2001 12:56:17 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted: I would say don't do it there is more nerve endings in the foreskin and any removal of nerve endings could limit the amount of sensation he will have once he is old enough to have sex. Yes, but isn't that one of the reasons to have it done? To lessen the sensation so the boy won't blow his cap too fast when he is older? The women will thank him for it. |
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Posted: 12/30/2001 4:07:39 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted: This is a little off topic. My sisters son was born with out eye lids. They used his foreskin to reconstruct his eye lids. It is amazing what modern medicine can do. He is almost completely normal. The only problem is he is a litte cock-eyed......I crack my self up We shoot little peckers like you around here...[;)] |
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Posted: 12/30/2001 4:32:48 AM EDT
[#27]
Geez Shooter, I thought it was a "feel good" story
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Posted: 12/30/2001 4:47:28 AM EDT
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Make his pecker that same as yours, whatever that may be. He is your son now. Congradulations.
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Posted: 12/30/2001 5:20:32 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted: This is a little off topic. My sisters son was born with out eye lids. They used his foreskin to reconstruct his eye lids. It is amazing what modern medicine can do. He is almost completely normal. The only problem is he is a litte cock-eyed......I crack my self up Gives new meaning to "Eyes wide open." Never mind, it was funny when I first thought of it. |
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Posted: 12/30/2001 5:25:36 AM EDT
[#30]
Get clipped, fer sure! [>]:)]
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Posted: 12/30/2001 6:11:07 AM EDT
[#31]
yeah, I think we had this topic sometime ago...
[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=74879[/url] For the love of god dont hack-off his penis. [:D] Chopped or not, it may not be that big of a deal(medically or hygenic)--but it is circumcision that's the extra procedure. |
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Posted: 12/30/2001 6:20:06 AM EDT
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How about aesthetic reasons? You probably need to ask a girl, not just [u]any[/u] girl, of course, which she prefers and why.
Take a survey! I bet that 'cut' wins over 'uncut' by a very large margin! But, as I say, you have to be very circumspect about just which girl you ask. And that's my tip of the day. Eric The('TheUnkindestCutOfAll')Hun[>]:)] |
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Posted: 12/30/2001 7:42:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: How about aesthetic reasons? You probably need to ask a girl, not just [u]any[/u] girl, of course, which she prefers and why. Take a survey! I bet that 'cut' wins over 'uncut' by a very large margin! But, as I say, you have to be very circumspect about just which girl you ask. And that's my tip of the day. Eric The('TheUnkindestCutOfAll')Hun[>]:)] WOW, what a great pick up line!!!.... "Excuse me Miss, my friend is trying to decide wether or not he should curcumcise his baby. What do you prefer?" I am going to the Mall to try it out. |
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Posted: 12/30/2001 7:55:20 AM EDT
[#34]
Cut it only if yours is. Father like son!
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Posted: 12/30/2001 8:31:39 AM EDT
[#35]
Cut it before he gets old enough to realize what they are doing. BTW sherm, congratulations on your adoption.
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Posted: 12/30/2001 8:37:43 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted: If it is too sensitive he might have a problem with not lasting long enough. You wouldn't want your sons' wife to be unhappy because he was a minute steak. I hope my boy won't be a three pump chump. I used to work in Brooklyn for NYC EMS and went to a call for a "16 year old in pain." Turns out the kid had been circumcised two days prior and was having problems with morning wood. At least that's what he said. I think it was just to get more pain meds because I can't imagine the mind overriding the pain just to pitch a tent because of the little testoserone surge we all get in the AM. My wife shivers at the thought of foreskin(bad experience?[8)]Just kiddin honey!) which luckily for her, I lack. But once again, and what a rare thing it truly is, she's leaving it up to me. Actually I don't think thats ever happened before, and nor will it happen again. I'm still confused. Sherm |
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Posted: 12/30/2001 9:00:03 AM EDT
[#37]
I say don't cut. I'm 16 and un-cut. My foreskin will go to the bottom of the head and stay there so looks aren't even an issue.
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Posted: 12/30/2001 10:52:58 AM EDT
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Gee, thanks, CanadianGunNut, but, er, that's a little more information than I think we all need to know!
Eric The(AndHoldThePicsIfYouDon'tMind!)Hun[>]:)] |
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Posted: 12/30/2001 11:05:49 AM EDT
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There's nothing like a shorn scrotum. It's really quite breath taking.
Love Dr. Evil |
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Posted: 12/30/2001 1:34:37 PM EDT
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A Texan buys a round of drinks for all in the bar because, he announces, his wife has just produced a typical Texas baby boy weighing 25 pounds.
Congratulations showered him from all around, and many exclamations of "WOW"! were heard. A woman faints due to sympathy pains. Two weeks later, he returns to the bar. The bartender says, "Say, you're the father of the typical Texas baby that weighed 25 pounds at birth. How much does he weigh now?" The proud father answers, "Seventeen pounds." The bartender is puzzled, and concerned. "What happened? He already weighed 25 pounds at birth." The Texas father takes a slow swig from his long-neck Lone Star beer, wipes his lips on his shirt sleeve, leans into the bartender and proudly says, "Had him circumcised" |
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Posted: 12/31/2001 8:19:36 AM EDT
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"Foreskins? We don't need no stinkin foreskins...!"
A little FYI---Back in the late 1970's there was a barband in NorCal called "The Four Skins". |
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Posted: 12/31/2001 9:03:13 AM EDT
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Lots of good information from previous posters. I would just like to add that sometimes medical conditions occur later in life that require circumcision. My dad had to have a circumcision at 55 because of complications of Diabetes. The hood contracted and wouldn't let batman back in his cave (ew....thats a nasty thought). Anyway, I can assure you that your baby won't remember his circumcision nearly as much as my dad does.
Chicks dig purple helmets, not ant-eaters. And lack of male sensitivity during sex is RARELY a problem. Though millions of dollars are spent yearly on drugs, creams, pills, etc. to help men keep going for long enough to please their partner. Please for the kids sake get him clipped. When he's 16-17 years old and about to lay down his first sexual partner, wouldn't a purple helmet be more female friendly? Just my .0000002 cents. |
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