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Posted: 12/19/2001 7:14:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 7:24:34 AM EDT
Yea, I saw this on theregister. What really gives me the creeps about this story is... Sun employs a ton of developers in India and a lot of LINUX and xBSD kernel work is done in India. . . . . . . . ~~We wont talk about Apache *shudder*
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 7:33:22 AM EDT
So we are now to believe that the same people running around not taking showers for weeks on end while they live in cave are computer hackers? I find it hard to believe that these guys could have gained employment at Microsoft without arising suspicion since some of them couldn't even take flying lessons without getting the cops called on them. Surely the programmers for Microsoft have some type of security clearance and this would have turned up any kind of shady background. I have a hard time believing any of this...
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 7:35:21 AM EDT
So that explains why XP works so well! I just knew this couldn't be Microsoft's doing....
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 7:35:57 AM EDT
Oh, THAT explains XP!!
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 7:39:23 AM EDT
Holy crap! Both of the Windows XP users should be notified of this! MS held a seminar in town a couple weeks ago to promote XP. They had about 7 MS employees, 7 or 8 MS partner employees, and a tremendous buffet laid out. They had three (3) people show up for it. The upside was, everybody got a door prize.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 7:41:00 AM EDT
Hey...I'm running XP. I hope the FBI doesn't think I'm a terrorist.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 7:43:50 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 7:45:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Ponyboy: Hey...I'm running XP.
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My enterprise datacenter is still running on Microsoft Bob. It's stable and has a good GUI.
I hope the FBI doesn't think I'm a terrorist.
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Posting on ar15.com won't help matters any, I think.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 7:48:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/19/2001 7:41:43 AM EDT by Instant_Karma]
Originally Posted By ken_mays: My enterprise datacenter is still running on Microsoft Bob. It's stable and has a good GUI.
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BOB rofl!! You have updated to Active BOB ... Right?
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 7:52:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Instant_Karma:
Originally Posted By ken_mays: My enterprise datacenter is still running on Microsoft Bob. It's stable and has a good GUI.
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BOB rofl!! You have updated to Active BOB ... Right?
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No way dude... that cookie shit makes me nervous.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 7:55:07 AM EDT
What's the big deal? Microsoft sabotages their own products intentionally. Tyler
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 8:26:17 AM EDT
a lot of LINUX and xBSD kernel work is done in India.
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Name one developer. I've used Linux for over nine years, and I can't name a single developer from India. That's besides the point anyway, because the source is available so that we can tell something like that hasn't happened. With Microsoft, you just have to assume everything is ok, because they don't allow you to verify their code.
What's the big deal? Microsoft sabotages their own products intentionally.
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The big deal? Many people are killed each day in accidents, but it's a huge news story if someone gets even a small injury from an alleged terrorist attack. So, Microsoft sets IT back 20 years, and that isn't big news. A terrorist might have caused a small problem, then that's huge news. It's the irrational, overreacting news media at work.z
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 8:54:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/19/2001 9:08:41 AM EDT by Instant_Karma]
Originally Posted By zoom:
a lot of LINUX and xBSD kernel work is done in India.
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Name one developer. I've used Linux for over nine years, and I can't name a single developer from India. That's besides the point anyway, because the source is available so that we can tell something like that hasn't happened. With Microsoft, you just have to assume everything is ok, because they don't allow you to verify their code.
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How about Maneesh Soni or any of twenty others.. Hit the changelog at Kernel.org and look at the credits. Sheesh lonix lionies irk mm Tell me what this C code does guy. erk there is no /code def on this board... NM Another edit to refute the "We have the source and you cant back door us" argument. Z. can you tell me how many back doors have made it into Red Hat distros in the last 5 revs? >20? >50? Damn man, go hit rootshell... You obviously have too much confidence in your OS. sheeit they are still finding holes in 5.0. Only god knows about 7.2. How long has it taken the OpenBSD crew just to review the TCP stack? 3 years and they still aren't done.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 7:02:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ponyboy: So we are now to believe that the same people running around not taking showers for weeks on end while they live in cave are computer hackers?
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You have just described the average programmer.
I find it hard to believe that these guys could have gained employment at Microsoft without arising suspicion since some of them couldn't even take flying lessons without getting the cops called on them. Surely the programmers for Microsoft have some type of security clearance and this would have turned up any kind of shady background. I have a hard time believing any of this...
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Man, if you only knew how the software business works, you would crap. Security clearance? Hell no! Microsoft hires thousands of Indian and Chinese contractors here on H1-B's. Background checks? Maybe on the Americans, but they cannot check the foreign contractors. Hell, half the programmers I know look like terrorists and those are the white guys! :) There is no way in hell they can police every line of code. The best they can do is run it through unit testing and if it works as advertised, fine. That doesn't preclude backdoors, trojans, or anything like that. There ain't no security in MS products because they don't give a sh*t. They say they do, but they don't.
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 5:21:30 AM EDT
Good, I hope this sacks the H1B program for good.
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 9:47:15 AM EDT
Oh boy they have done it now.....Revenge of the Nerds, Part 5 Pocket protectors and ARs.....kick a$$
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 5:54:51 PM EDT
Any updates on this?
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 9:58:43 PM EDT
Why would they need al-Quaeda to do it?? Microsoft sabotages themselves: http://[url]http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011220/tc/microsoft_hackers.html[/url] http://[url]http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/134380716_webxp20.html[/url] http://[url]http://news.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20011220/us/1008878588microsoft_hackers_la113.html[/url] I love the picture of the three guys who found it (last link above).[:D]
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 10:48:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2001 10:49:04 PM EDT by DJbump]
When are you folks going to stop buying the complete and utter bullshit that the government stooges and mouthpieces are feeding you? Let's see, the Al-Qaeda/Taliban have so far: .Been identified as the real bombers of Pearl Harbor -Bought every single private party transfer weapon sold at every US gun show in the last 10 years -Shot J.R. Ewing -Hacked MS XP -Raped our beloved housepets -Created cancer and foisted it on the world Come on, folks, are you human beings or sponges? Can any of you think for yourselves, or do you just soak up all the bullshit CNN pours on you? If the founders asked someone to give evidence of the fall of our beloved Republic, this is the kind of shit I would point them to.
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 11:23:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DJbump: -Shot J.R. Ewing
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LOL. Too bad they didn't kill him! [:)]
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 11:27:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DJbump: When are you folks going to stop buying the complete and utter bullshit that the government stooges and mouthpieces are feeding you? Let's see, the Al-Qaeda/Taliban have so far: .Been identified as the real bombers of Pearl Harbor -Bought every single private party transfer weapon sold at every US gun show in the last 10 years -Shot J.R. Ewing -Hacked MS XP -Raped our beloved housepets -Created cancer and foisted it on the world Come on, folks, are you human beings or sponges? Can any of you think for yourselves, or do you just soak up all the bullshit CNN pours on you? If the founders asked someone to give evidence of the fall of our beloved Republic, this is the kind of shit I would point them to.
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And shot Mr. Burns
Link Posted: 12/21/2001 12:53:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ponyboy: So we are now to believe that the same people running around not taking showers for weeks on end while they live in cave are computer hackers? I find it hard to believe that these guys could have gained employment at Microsoft without arising suspicion since some of them couldn't even take flying lessons without getting the cops called on them. Surely the programmers for Microsoft have some type of security clearance and this would have turned up any kind of shady background. I have a hard time believing any of this...
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Well then you don't live in Seattle. We are awash in Indian dudes. Many of them live near and work at MS.
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