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Posted: 11/27/2001 6:29:52 PM EDT
Yes its true. Me and the Mrs took the two little ones ( 8 and 11) out to see the dreaded movie from hell. Yes I can see it now soon we will be worshiping Satan!! No seriously, I found the movie to be entertaining. Its your basic good versus evil movie. No praying to demons or imps etc. Yes there are some goblins ( actually I found it funny that they are the bankers!!) and a troll. The movie also speaks highly of what are universally considered virtues. Be true to your friends unless they are doing wrong, bravery and self sacrifice for the good of all. Frankly I do not see what all the anti-hype is all about!!
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 6:44:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/27/2001 6:51:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/27/2001 6:52:19 PM EDT
When your 11 year old cast spells and your 8 year old belives in spirits, well they're just 8 & 11, kids play right!, what harm can happen. Say "damn" in front of your kids and what do they do, repeat it. Expose your kids to lifes darker side (through a well meaning, fun and wholesome, kids's movie) and what do they do? We shovel enough crap into our kids with media and peer pressure alone that our collective 12 year old daughters are dressing like sluts and learning how to swear, smoke and whore around before they reach puberty. We aren't doing our collective sons any favors either. As my good Thai friend Peter says "everybody's different, that's what makes the world go around". Well he's right, we are all different with a different set of moral and parental values for our kids. However... If we want to let society dictate what we allow them to see "cause' everybody's seein' it" or what they wear "cause' everybody's wearin' it" or how far the 14 year old is going to let a guy go on the first date "cause' everybody's doin' it" When their lives fall apart, we have no one to blame but ourselves. Our job as parents is to guard the hearts of our children. Their purity is much too easily lost.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 6:52:49 PM EDT
Osama & his followers not only banned Harry Potter, they banned all movies as evil. Plus television. That was the one right thing Osama did, by banning TV, he banned Benny Hinn and his like. Harry Potter is a good moral movie and the world is a better place because of it.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 7:00:46 PM EDT
I took my five year old, he liked it. It was a very good movie.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 8:16:23 PM EDT
I thought it was kinda lame, I dont get what the big deals about. It's not that great of a story.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 8:26:02 PM EDT
I too found it enjoyable and very well done.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 8:43:35 PM EDT
My wife took my children to see Harry Potter. My daugher is a Harry Potter enthusiatist, and she says that if you didn't read the book, you may understand the movie, because the movie left out some parts she though were important to the story.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 9:43:31 PM EDT
What's the big deal? Fantasy has been a part of childrens' lives for centuries. Its only dangerous if they fail to distinguish fantasy from reality, because then, when they grow up, they will vote for democrats.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 3:54:32 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 12:14:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nachoman: What's the big deal? Fantasy has been a part of childrens' lives for centuries. Its only dangerous if they fail to distinguish fantasy from reality, because then, when they grow up, they will vote for democrats.
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[/size=2][/blue] this is the clearest and most concise analysis of this whole b.s. controversy (and some others). thread, after thread, after thread... sir, you are a genius![beer]
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 12:41:36 PM EDT
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Go back to your room, stormbringer, you evil dad you---and make them read the Bible---it has no objectionable material in it!!!! giants angels dragons wizards whores adulterers golden calves lot's of bloodshed lot's of pornography---song of solomon? spells----can you make it rain frogs? killing women and children and goats snakes that talk StormBringer----how's Elric? And-Note to G-man---I know what you're going to say but it was so easy!!!!!
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 12:45:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hound: Go back to your room, stormbringer, you evil dad you---and make them read the Bible---it has no objectionable material in it!!!! giants angels dragons wizards whores adulterers golden calves lot's of bloodshed lot's of pornography---song of solomon? spells----can you make it rain frogs? killing women and children and goats snakes that talk StormBringer----how's Elric? And-Note to G-man---I know what you're going to say but it was so easy!!!!!
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Good, cuz I wasn't immediately sure what I was gonna say!!!! [BD] So what did the evil G-man voices in your head tell you I would say???? [:D] Really - I'm curious to hear your response. It'll tell me if i been doing my job adequately. Then I'll give you my actual response.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 12:48:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By pbrstreetgang: [blue][size=2]
Originally Posted By Nachoman: What's the big deal? Fantasy has been a part of childrens' lives for centuries. Its only dangerous if they fail to distinguish fantasy from reality, because then, when they grow up, they will vote for democrats.
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[/size=2][/blue] this is the clearest and most concise analysis of this whole b.s. controversy (and some others). thread, after thread, after thread... sir, you are a genius![beer]
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Uhhh, I'm not sure you can equate fantasy about playing with dollies or with toy trucks with fantasy about black magic or casting spells. I believe any parent that takes their child to see this movie has some SERIOUS work to do in giving their children the context about what is a right and moral fantasy to have in re: Harry Potter. That's all. Now, get busy, parents [:D]
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 12:53:31 PM EDT
To paraphrase the G-man setting on my shoulder.. the examples given by hound are given in the Bible to teach and instruct and not for gratutious violence or to fufill lusts of the flesh......
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 12:59:37 PM EDT
Garand man I am doing some serious work in keeping my two kids aware of the diffenences between reality and fantasy. I find that I have to do more work after they spend a weekend at the inlaws....they generally take them to church and I have to deprogram them from all that god stuff.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:06:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hound: To paraphrase the G-man setting on my shoulder.. the examples given by hound are given in the Bible to teach and instruct and not for gratutious violence or to fufill lusts of the flesh......
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Pretty close. I'm so proud of you, my child {sniff, sniff} Allow me to add - Scripture gives accounts of murder, rape, incest, witchcraft, lying, theft, adultery, fornication, drunkenness, treachery, betrayal, patricide, human sacrifice and a hundred other sinful acts. But they are ALL told in a moral context that upholds and commends doing right, rather than glamorizing and tolerating doing evil. Therein lies the difference. And its an important one. Now, not having seen Potter, I can't make a judgment either way. However, Given Hollywoods penchant for glamorizing wrongdoing, one HAS to wonder....
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:07:36 PM EDT
stormbringer----after that comment you are on your own.......g-man can get rough when he's riled........maybe you should get Mournblade involved.......... or Arioch
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:08:12 PM EDT
i saw that movie a week ago. Did you notice how old the guy who made the sorcerer stone was? 665 and how old he would be when he died? 666 btw, i am not into religion, i just noticed that.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:09:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By garandman:
Originally Posted By hound: To paraphrase the G-man setting on my shoulder.. the examples given by hound are given in the Bible to teach and instruct and not for gratutious violence or to fufill lusts of the flesh......
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Pretty close. I'm so proud of you, my child {sniff, sniff} Allow me to add - Scripture gives accounts of murder, rape, incest, witchcraft, lying, theft, adultery, fornication, drunkenness, treachery, betrayal, patricide, human sacrifice and a hundred other sinful acts. But they are ALL told in a moral context that upholds and commends doing right, rather than glamorizing and tolerating doing evil. Therein lies the difference. And its an important one. Now, not having seen Potter, I can't make a judgment either way. However, Given Hollywoods penchant for glamorizing wrongdoing, one HAS to wonder....
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also jesus is a hippy that has magical powers...and he is supposed to be the good guy.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:09:56 PM EDT
What is it about Harry Potter that is so ojectionable? If you're going to rant about Harry Potter, what about half the Disney movies ever made? "Return to Witch Mountain" "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" "Pinochio" "Fantasia" "Mary Poppins" etc, etc, etc..... Any movie that has talking animals....because then we're giving children the idea that animals have souls. The list is endless. How about...."A Christmas Carol"? After all the Bible says nothing about Christmas ghosts, past, present or future. What about "It's a Wonderfull Life"? According to the Bible, people don't become angels. Better keep your chidren away from that one. Scuse me, I have to go out and buy some tin foil.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:10:00 PM EDT
Last week my 6 year old daughter and I watched Shrek for the first time. She even managed to understand that it wasn't real. But alas, being as it shares similar content to Harry Potter, I suppose we are going to burn in hell now, too. Might as well go see Harry Potter as we are already condemned.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:12:54 PM EDT
thanks g-man----I try....even though I disagree with much of the way that the Bible has been presented and twisted...I still understand most of what it is saying and agree with some of it. And I must say your tolerance and level-headed statement about Harry Potter in this thread is a great reflection on you......
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:18:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Stormbringer: Garand man I am doing some serious work in keeping my two kids aware of the diffenences between reality and fantasy. I find that I have to do more work after they spend a weekend at the inlaws....they generally take them to church and I have to deprogram them from all that god stuff.
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Actually, you brought a Scripture verse to mind.... Matthew 18: 5-6 And whoever will receive a little child in my name receiveth me. But whoever shall offend one of these little children which beleive in me, it were better for him that a massive stone were tied to his neck, and that he were drowned in the deep sea. But, I'm sure you are not doing all that, right??? You're just saving them from misinfomation about God, not telling them God is a phony, right???
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:20:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Boomer: Last week my 6 year old daughter and I watched Shrek for the first time. She even managed to understand that it wasn't real. But alas, being as it shares similar content to Harry Potter, I suppose we are going to burn in hell now, too. Might as well go see Harry Potter as we are already condemned.
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let's see.... {flipping thru Bible, flipping, flipping....} NOPE. I can't see anywhere the Bible says you'll burn in hell for that. There is ONLY one reason anyone would burn in hell. Actually, burning in hell is quite easy to avoid. its so simple to do, its amazing more people don't do it.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:23:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By garandman:
Originally Posted By Boomer: Last week my 6 year old daughter and I watched Shrek for the first time. She even managed to understand that it wasn't real. But alas, being as it shares similar content to Harry Potter, I suppose we are going to burn in hell now, too. Might as well go see Harry Potter as we are already condemned.
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let's see.... {flipping thru Bible, flipping, flipping....} NOPE. I can't see anywhere the Bible says you'll burn in hell for that. There is ONLY one reason anyone would burn in hell. Actually, burning in hell is quite easy to avoid. its so simple to do, its amazing more people don't do it.
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is there any way to avoid hell without changing what I do or how I live at all?
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:25:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Fighting-Illini: i saw that movie a week ago. Did you notice how old the guy who made the sorcerer stone was? 665 and how old he would be when he died? 666 btw, i am not into religion, i just noticed that.
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Actually, that was probably mostly just artistic in nature, rather than substantive. My worst case conspiracy theory?? Probably just a red herring to get self-religious types in an uproar. You gotta understand - ALL publicity is seen as a good thing in Hollywood, whether it be bad or good. It get the word out, peaks interest and getsa butts in teh theatre seats. In reality, the self-religious types helped to make this as booming a movie premier as it turned out to be.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:27:04 PM EDT
yep...according to the rules....ya can get in by praying with your last breath....Jesus forgive me.......now if I would have set up a religion....that would not be allowed....
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:27:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By garandman: NOPE. I can't see anywhere the Bible says you'll burn in hell for that.
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Well then, the question that begs to be asked is: Why do you get your knickers in such a twist over Harry Potter but not countless other movies with similar content? What switch did Harry Potter trip in the religious extremists?
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:28:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Fighting-Illini: is there any way to avoid hell without changing what I do or how I live at all?
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LOL...pretty funny. NOPE. If you are driving straight at a tree, and wish to avoid hitting the tree, you gotta TURN the wheel. And "turn" is pretty much the denotative definition of "repentance." Sorry, man - if you gonna ride God's bus, you gotts to pay your money. Go Vols!!!!!!!!
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Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:31:49 PM EDT
Being much more wiccan than any other religion, I found Harry Potter to be delightful. There was a good side and a bad side. The bad side lost out (for the time being). While you may beleive that all magic (and followers of same) is evil, quite the opposite is true. I havenever found a follower of Wicca to be anythign but good and pure of heart. Must be all the orgies that cleanes their system of the toxins foisted on them by organized religions.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:31:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By garandman: Sorry, man - if you gonna ride God's bus, you gotts to pay your money.
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That's right. I hear the cost of a ticket is typically 10% of your gross earnings. [;)]
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:31:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hound: yep...according to the rules....ya can get in by praying with your last breath....Jesus forgive me.......now if I would have set up a religion....that would not be allowed....
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Apparently, God is nicer than you are. [}:D] However, the Bible indicates that if God is calling and you refuse Him, eventually He will stop calling you, and that if He isn't calling you, you ain't gettin saved. Too much of a gamble for me.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:36:11 PM EDT
No I tell them that god is a creation of people with weak minds who do not have the internal fortitude to do right instead of wrong and must rely on an external control to decide these issues. We talk about things such as drugs and alchohol etc in terms of what is right and wrong of their own accord NOT due to any god being telling us right from wrong. God does not exist in our house, never has never will as far as I am concerned. Well you did ask!!!
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:38:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hielo: Must be all the orgies that cleanes their system of the toxins foisted on them by organized religions.
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Orgies?? ORGIES?? Hmmm maybe I will join a religion!!!
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:39:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Boomer: Well then, the question that begs to be asked is: Why do you get your knickers in such a twist over Harry Potter but not countless other movies with similar content? What switch did Harry Potter trip in the religious extremists?
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And a GOOD question it is... As you can tell, I'm not THAT much in an uproar over Potter. Its a fad, it will pass. Remember Bryan Adams?? great music. But pop culture has a way of devouring its own offspring. Potter is likely fodder for the same insatiable appetite. And in reality, XXX porn and similar other examples of what God considers sin found in everything from G to R movies has had FAR greater an affect on de-moralizing (literally) society than Potter probably will. I think its partly a fear factor that gets people in an uproar over Potter. Hollywood is KNOWN for its anti-God stance, so we religious types expect them to take the anti-God stance in about anything they do. It may not be a legitimate fear here. But I'm inclined to keep an eye on it, and see where it goes. Hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:42:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Stormbringer: God does not exist in our house, never has never will as far as I am concerned. Well you did ask!!!
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yeah, i asked. And no worries, my friend. But trust me - you ain't big enuf to keep God away from your children. [}:D] He's a tough guy, that way.[:D]
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:43:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Boomer:
Originally Posted By garandman: Sorry, man - if you gonna ride God's bus, you gotts to pay your money.
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That's right. I hear the cost of a ticket is typically 10% of your gross earnings. [;)]
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Touche!!!!!!!!! Actually, it costs NOTHING to get on the bus. Once you are on, it costs EVERYTHING. But the odd thing is - you don't mind it at all. In fact, its an investment that returns your "principal" MANY times over.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 1:51:40 PM EDT
Actually, it costs NOTHING to get on the bus. Once you are on, it costs EVERYTHING. Isn't it weird how that would apply to drugs also....that is my biggest problem with organized religion.....millions of fanatics with no apparent questioning of anything following blindly into oblivion......I prefer the Japanese proverb "If you meet Buddha on the road, kill him, that is the only way you will learn his true nature..." I am not joining the chorus of dumping on Gman today, but let's say I ain't joining him either..
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 2:15:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hound: Actually, it costs NOTHING to get on the bus. Once you are on, it costs EVERYTHING. Isn't it weird how that would apply to drugs also....
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But the difference with drugs is eventually, you WILL mind what it costs you, and it turns out to be a TERRIBLE investment. I have never yet met ANYONE who TRULY met God, and then regretted his decision. Honest. I haven't. I have met LOTS of people who "found religion" and then regretted it.
that is my biggest problem with organized religion.....millions of fanatics with no apparent questioning of anything following blindly into oblivion......
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And that is a legitimate concern. The solution is SIMPLE. Forget church, forget tithes [:D] forget organized gahterings of "religious people." Read the Gospel of John. USE your logic. Pray God will give you MORE logic. Read it again. Then come back and we will talk. If you need a gospel of John, I'll send ya one FREE O' CHARGE. Postage paid. No obligation. No other junk mailings will follow. [:D]
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 2:27:11 PM EDT
You should skip the movies and stay home and play wholesome family games like the Ouija board.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 4:45:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Stormbringer:
Originally Posted By hielo: Must be all the orgies that cleanes their system of the toxins foisted on them by organized religions.
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Orgies?? ORGIES?? Hmmm maybe I will join a religion!!!
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You will love Wicca, they willlove you. It is a much older religion then the Jhonny-come-latelies, and is much more tolerant. I guessit is the difference between being secure and understanding, and being frightened and bullied. There isn't any hell other than what you make for yourself. Tthere isn't any heaven either, other than what you make for yourself. Enjoy.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 4:57:59 PM EDT
What ever....I just want the sex!! LOL
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 4:58:01 PM EDT
So how was the movie?
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 5:08:38 PM EDT
Wicca is cool... I prefer a similar, though more frowned upon Religion. To each his own. [;)] Tyler
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 5:13:33 PM EDT
The movie was ok, a trifle long but then again my daughter said that they missed out a few parts from the book. As it was the whole thing is well over two hours!! I just wish that I had written it!! I read yesterday that JK Rawlings will be the first Billionare Author!! Mind you I guess she did have to sell her soul!!!
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