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6/21/2017 8:25:40 PM
Posted: 11/20/2001 2:16:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/20/2001 2:09:19 PM EDT by Tuukka]
Wasn´t it this one on the cover of Newsweek. [img]http://www.dtic.mil/armylink/photos/Nov2001/01110203.gif[/img] [url]http://www.dtic.mil/armylink/photos/Nov2001/01110203.jpg[/url] Public Armylink pictures.
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 2:27:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 3:50:13 PM EDT
Does anyone know what lip mike he's using?
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 5:36:34 PM EDT
Interesing configuration.. What's that flat looking thing on the top of the handguard in front of the scope? What's the small cylinder attached to the scope? What's the radial cut in front of teh axial cuts on the flash hider? Is that a 14", or is it a 16"? What's the lethality of that short barreled rifle compared to a 20" (Do the bullets tumble and fragment as effectively since they're slower?) Why the googles?
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 5:53:45 PM EDT
call me anal, but am I the only one that closes their dust cover after I chamber a round?
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 5:54:25 PM EDT
sometimes it is the little things that get us killed.
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 6:07:18 PM EDT
I immediately purchased this copy of Newsweek when I saw the cover photo. I also noticed that his A2 flash suppressor is not aligned properly. Unless of course that's a prototype FS with the cuts at only 10-12-2 o'clock. But to me it looks like an A2 that wasn't timed properly. Isn't the scope an Aimpoint with an IR filter and extra battery compartment? I learned about the IR designator on another thread. Thanks havoc. Otherwise looks like an M203 mounted under an RAS on a 14.5" barreled M4. Don't know what the rail is under the Aimpoint, though it looks like it includes an integral iron sight. Am I close? [:)]
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 6:11:14 PM EDT
[url]http://www.myfamily.com/isapi.dll/c/content/f/viewproperty/siteid/TKzHAM/contentclass/PICT/contentid/ZZZZZZZW/propertyname/Original/~/01110203.jpg[/url]
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 6:17:08 PM EDT
"What's the small cylinder attached to the scope?" I thinks it is an infrared illuminator.
Link Posted: 11/20/2001 6:34:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 6:52:07 AM EDT
That rifle looks horrible. Hardly any finish what so ever on the lower and the upper looks like it's been beat to death. Sheesh!
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 7:07:39 AM EDT
i think what you're seeing is something called a camo finish--it makes it harder for the bad guys to see you........Dick
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 8:54:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By IronMike: call me anal, but am I the only one that closes their dust cover after I chamber a round?
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Probably. Av.
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 9:55:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 10:08:17 AM EDT
What kind of helmet is he wearing and what is that pen looking thing by his right hand behind the magazine? Joe
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 10:18:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 10:32:53 AM EDT
that pen looking thing
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Is for taking names after kicking ass! [:D]
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 10:36:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By lazyengineer: What's the radial cut in front of teh axial cuts on the flash hider?
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I think that is the attacment for a sound supressor. The Flash Suppressor appears improperly indexed though.....
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 10:39:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Vector_Joe: what is that pen looking thing by his right hand behind the magazine?
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Camelbak tube with a Blue [b]civilian[/b] bite valve. When i saw that I initially though this may be a photo of some SWAT cop and not military at all.
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 11:05:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/21/2001 10:59:52 AM EDT by AcidGambit]
Originally Posted By AR15fan:
Originally Posted By lazyengineer: What's the radial cut in front of teh axial cuts on the flash hider?
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I think that is the attacment for a sound supressor. The Flash Suppressor appears improperly indexed though.....
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I agree, it looks like it the flash suppressor that a QD suppresor attaches to. But, it sure ain't the KMC version I've seen. Wonder if he has a can opener attached to that thing. And FWIW, I don't think that is worn finish.. It looks like paint to me.
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 12:36:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AR15fan:
Originally Posted By Vector_Joe: what is that pen looking thing by his right hand behind the magazine?
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Camelbak tube with a Blue [b]civilian[/b] bite valve. When i saw that I initially though this may be a photo of some SWAT cop and not military at all.
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Jeeze, I have a LE/GOVT ONLY black bite valve on mine. Do not turn me into the ATF! It is a preban! LOL[;)]
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 1:06:33 PM EDT
I hope no bad guys pop out in front of this guy. He's got his safety on. [>:/]
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 2:14:17 PM EDT
OK, I see the little mount attachment on the front of his helmet, and I have seen other SpecOps guys with something mounted there, but what is it? It kinda looks like a mini video camera, too small to be night vision gear. Anyone know? Love the black electrical tape on the handguards. I would never allow anything so unprofessional looking on my M4gery! Just bought a pair of surplus dust goggles, they are flat lensed, I see these are raised somewhat to allow more peripheral vision, but I saw a photo in the paper the other day where the guy was wearing mountain camo, including the rifle all painted up (and the Trijicon NSN) and he had the same goggles as the ones I bought. He was photographed with a bunch of Afghani men near him. I thought the military was somewhat homogonized as far as equipment went.
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 2:38:14 PM EDT
As to the flash hider/muzzle brake not being indexed properly here is my 2 cents. The AR that was made for me by a Air Force armorer is that way. When asked about it he mentioned that on full auto (which mine is not) the muzzle climb is not straight up, it climbs slightly to the left. The indexing in that direction eleminates this tendancy.
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 3:21:24 PM EDT
LOL!!! GOD, some of you guys are funny!!!! I can just imagine some of you standing in a fire fight with this guy and saying "Hey, your flash suppressor's not on right." Is it because some of you are a bit jealous because you don't get to play with the cool toys? And that's why you nit pick? [:D]
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 3:37:42 PM EDT
Gemtech QD flash supressor maybe? Doesn't appear to have the two "wings", though. Havoc would probably know this one, too.
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 3:40:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By IronMike: call me anal, but am I the only one that closes their dust cover after I chamber a round?
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No, you're not the only one. In fact, the first thing that came to mind when I saw that shot was, "Close the damned dust cover!". I guess that's conditioning from crawling through the sands of Camp Grayling, Michigan with my M-16. -kill-9
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 4:39:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By John91498: Is it because some of you are a bit jealous because you don't get to play with the cool toys? And that's why you nit pick?
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No. It's becuase I was a Marine. Our armorers knew how to properly index a flash supressor and our riflmen didnt put bright blue target indicators right over their hearts. Yes, it really surprises me that he took the time to camo his rifle, but has a black helmet and blue bite valve. I dont believe this is a "spec ops" soldier at all. It is more likely an MP of some sort.
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 5:59:41 PM EDT
Yeah, a SpecOps guy would close his dust cover. [bounce] -kill-9
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 7:58:33 PM EDT
The more I look at this bigger picture the more I think that the FS might just have cuts at 10-12-2 o'clock. I don't even want to venture a guess as to whether this guy is a specop who was photographed after firing a few rounds (thus the open cover), or what. I guess I'm just trying to look at his setup. I don't buy that a SF operator wouldn't notice that his FS was f'd up. Particularly when he spent so much time dressing the rifle up with camo and accessories. And no, I would not want to mess with this guy, even with an f'd up FS....
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 8:19:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/21/2001 8:12:14 PM EDT by AR15fan]
Originally Posted By Vector_Joe: What kind of helmet is he wearing
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On Lightfighter.com the group consensus(sp?) was it is a standard Military helmet with no cover, textured by adding shoe-goop/silicon, and spray painted black. Why anyone would do that is unknown.
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 10:24:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AR15fan:
Originally Posted By Vector_Joe: What kind of helmet is he wearing
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On Lightfighter.com the group consensus(sp?) was it is a standard Military helmet with no cover, textured by adding shoe-goop/silicon, and spray painted black. Why anyone would do that is unknown.
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It's definitely not the standard Kevlar helmet issued by the Army. You can see it better in this pic: [img]http://www.dtic.mil/armylink/photos/Nov2001/01110202.gif[/img] [url]http://www.dtic.mil/armylink/photos/Nov2001/01110202.jpg[/url] Compare that to the helmets seen here: [img]http://www.dtic.mil/armylink/photos/Nov2001/01110205.gif[/img] [url]http://www.dtic.mil/armylink/photos/Nov2001/01110205.jpg[/url] -kill-9
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 10:35:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kill-9: It's definitely not the standard Kevlar helmet issued by the Army. You can see it better in this pic: [img]http://www.dtic.mil/armylink/photos/Nov2001/01110202.gif[/img] -kill-9
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Are you saying that's the same guy? These guys seem to be wearing a different helmet than on the Newsweek cover.
Link Posted: 11/21/2001 10:45:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/21/2001 10:38:26 PM EDT by kill-9]
Originally Posted By AR15fan: Are you saying that's the same guy? These guys seem to be wearing a different helmet than on the Newsweek cover.
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Yes, the guy kneeling is the guy on the Newsweek cover. The tape on the AR is the best confirmation I can see right off. Oh, and the open dust cover. ;) -kill-9
Link Posted: 11/22/2001 2:01:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By kpel308: Small parts and springs sometimes fail. Who would want a stoppage due to the cartridge case getting bounced back into the action? Train like you'd fight, and you'll fight like you trained.
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the spring is not the only thing that opens the dust cover,,it would still open without it. And chances are shit getting into the chamber etc. is far more likely to happen than a spring breaking,, mister never have a M-16 jam due to shit in the chamber.
Link Posted: 11/22/2001 5:58:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/22/2001 6:47:45 PM EDT
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