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Posted: 11/15/2001 5:04:49 AM EDT
Quickly go to [url]http://www.aztlan.org/[/url] and peruse the articles for a few minutes and report what you've seen back here! Are these folks [b]real?[/b] Eric The(Flabbergasted)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 5:07:38 AM EDT
it has a lot to do with mexicans and stuff. i can't really figure it out. it's a weird site. OffRoad
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 5:13:36 AM EDT
But look at the pro-Palestinian slant on everything! Even the Red Cross Blunder is blamed on the 'Zionists'! Eric The(I'llPostWhereThisCameFromInAWhile)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 5:17:48 AM EDT
How to Regain Your Mexican Nationality and Retain Your U.S Citizenship"
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There is something every[deleted]needs to know! Looks like a recipe list for Civil War 2 to me.[IMG]http://www.freakygamers.com/smilies/s/contrib/aahmed/sad.gif[/IMG] They got a thing about Jews too. Oh, and a waste of bandwidth also.
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 5:20:26 AM EDT
If those dirtbags want to reclaim Texas, they're going to have a job on their hands. Didn't we whoop the snot out of a bunch of them back in the day? Of course, if we get out-bred, we'll soon get outvoted. Then it's time to vote from the rooftops, as a wise man once said.
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 5:22:13 AM EDT
Zionist Mexicans? Oh lordy.
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 5:46:02 AM EDT
The Aztlan movement has been going on above ground for a couple of years. It's BS at this point. I think it's more of an issue inside Old Mexico. I keep getting references to the idea from President Fox's proposals. Sort of a reversal of the Gadsden Purchase.
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 5:53:56 AM EDT
They aren't very good at math, either. Check out their pictures of the Palestinian victim of an "800mm" (31.5 inch!) bullet: [url]http://www.aztlan.org/istoday.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 6:32:17 AM EDT
Mostly rantings from the Latino Lefties. WRT Professor (Damncanyouimaginethatheisteachingourkids!)Tr­uxillo's comments: There will not be a cecession as he wishes. That just ain't in the cards. Rather, there WILL be a gradual, legal [and dare I say insidous?] takeover of power in the southwest by the Latino voting bloc. This process has been in operation, albeit haltingly since the end of the Mexican War and the signing of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, widely derided and not recognized by a number of Mexicans and Mexican Americans. (Hey...that's what happens in a war...somebody loses the battle and then they lose the territory and the gold! Too bad...get over it!). Anyway...the primary reasons for this slow but inexorable sea change in American politics (very clearly recognized by both major parties.) is twofold: Illegal immigration continues apace and Latino birthrates vastly outstrip all other racial/ethnic groups. With such an increase in population, comes an equal increase in numbers of voters. The Latino voters of the American Southwest (largely of Mexican descent) are going to be a formidable power bloc that must be reckoned with in future elections. As to the stupid blatherings about the "Zionist" former head of the American Red Cross, Ms. Healy...well that is not surprising coming from a bunch of pseudo-Marxist, America haters such as this bunch. Many of these people, highly educated in our American [Usually Californian] universties, feel a strong bond between themselves (victims of American imperialism) and the Palestinians (more victimology...this time from those Nasty Zionists in Israel!). Hun...fret not...fringies like these pose no viable threat to you...or Israel. My advice...don't venture too far in the direction you are headed...it is becoming far too obvious. Your focus appears to be narrowing even more than usual. Let someone else carry the banner for a while. Let these loonies rant all they want. They are so far out on the fringe, Pluto looks next door! (I knew a couple of these clowns in school...one a TA whom I had several run-ins with. I finally realized that he was simply not going to listen to any logic or reason...and I just gave up and moved on.) Bah! Not worth further reading. "A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."...Dwight D. Eisenhower. [soapbox]
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 6:47:37 AM EDT
Somehow, LWilde, I don't feel much relieved by your post. If there are barbarians at the gate, then we should either welcome them in as true liberators, or fight them tooth and nail until we are either conquered or victorious. Problem is, I can't imagine what 'victorious' means in such a situation as this! Eric The(It'sNotLikeThesePeopleAreStrangersToAmeri­canHospitality,Now,IsIt?)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 7:01:38 AM EDT
Its just another Red Herring to make us forget about the Canadians on our Northern Borders..... -SS
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 7:33:53 AM EDT
They have a problem with everything not like them. It really is too bad that there are such idiots in the world. Heck, they even oppose that bitch Sen. Fineswine and her doings. Any lefty who does not like her is WAY to the EXTREME left. Their dislike for the Jews are quite obvious, too. JRB
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 7:41:52 AM EDT
You guys are funny. Texas has been getting more and more hispanic for years. It is not a problem, and it is not a threat. No kidding, the mexican people have a good work ethic. I have no problem with them. The mexican gangs are more than just a little disturbing, but all of the gangs center around power, money and control of drugs. I could care less if the Mexican voting block gets more people into office. You ever watch a Dallas Independent School District school board meeting? Now, that is some funny stuff. Blacks and Mexicans are the two Majority populations in the DISD. Both are STILL screaming at each other about which one is a minority. Both want to claim they are a minority, but they deserve to be in control since so many of their kids are enrolled. Scratch your head on that argument. You are the minority, but you need to be in control because more of your students are enrolled. Mexicans and Blacks, both screaming at each other about being a minority. Neither is aware of the oriental, asian, baltic, middle eastern populations that are the TRUE minority populations. Amazing stuff.
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 7:49:19 AM EDT
Post from The Red Goat -
Texas has been getting more and more hispanic for years. It is not a problem, and it is not a threat.
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Well, it [b]may[/b] not be a problem, and it [b]may[/b] not be a threat, but I wonder if Generalissimo Santa Anna and the Mexican politicos didn't say and think precisely the same thing when Anglo-Americans started immigrating into what is now known as Texas. There were some measures Mexico tried to hold back the tide, but they utterly proved fruitless in stopping history. Eric The(So,TurnaboutIsFairPlay?)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 8:37:44 AM EDT
Old fashon Marxism with a relgious twist. They must keep religion to gain Hispanic followers. Maybe write them an ask for a Forum board, that would be fun.
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 9:15:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: Well, it [b]may[/b] not be a problem, and it [b]may[/b] not be a threat, but I wonder if Generalissimo Santa Anna and the Mexican politicos didn't say and think precisely the same thing when Anglo-Americans started immigrating into what is now known as Texas. There were some measures Mexico tried to hold back the tide, but they utterly proved fruitless in stopping history.
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Don't forget, the gringos were [b]invited[/b] to move to Texas by the Mexicans, with the understanding that they would enjoy the full benefits of the then-current constitution of Mexico. Santa Anna soon abrogated that agreement, which started the ball rolling. Illegal immigrants have no such invitation, and we need to get serious about shutting the party down.
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 9:32:55 AM EDT
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What a load of crap. Petty bitching about the Mexican-American war won't get them anywhere.
La guerra perdida por México en 1848 y la usurpación de nuestros territorios por los norteamericanos puso al pueblo mexicano en una posición de subordinación y colonialismo. Desde entonces los chicanos luchan por sus derechos y enfrentan la segregación. El momento crucial para este movimiento...
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The War Mexico Lost in 1848 and the Seizure of our territories by the the North Americans placed Mexican Cities in a position of subordination and colonialism. Since then, the chicanos fought for their rights and confronted the segregation. The crucial momemnt for this movement...
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Link Posted: 11/15/2001 9:52:17 AM EDT
RETORNAR NO ES EMIGRAR Desde Texas a Tijuana, a lo largo de los 3 000 kilómetros de frontera inventada por los expansionistas yankis, las patrullas y los rancheros disparan contra la incontenible avalancha de mexicanos que intenta ingresar a esa parte de los Estados Unidos. Gilberto García aclara que no son emigrantes, porque se trata de un retorno a la tierra que les pertenece.
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To Return Is Not To Immigrate From Texas to Tijuana, along the 3 000 kilometers of border invented by the expansionist yankees, the patrols and the ranchers shoot at the uncontrollable avalanche of Mexicans that try to enter that part of the United States. Gilberto García clears up that there are no immigrants, because they are returning to the land that belongs them.
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Link Posted: 11/15/2001 9:55:13 AM EDT
In that screwed up state of kalifornia, there are many Aztlan members in elected offices.
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 9:57:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/15/2001 9:51:15 AM EDT by jhasz]
From what I can tell, this is an arm of La Raza (or an organization affiliated or similar to them) La Raza :the Race. As used in Southern California (Having moved from there, I have firsthand knowledge of some of this), this group promotes the idea that southern California (at the very least) is still Mexican territory - that they didn't move, the border did, and illegally. As far as I can tell it's a socialistic/communistic organization that wishes to return the southwest to Mexico (probably in part because of the economy there), and is attempting to do so by moving so many people into the area that they supposedly will be able to ride roughshod over those that would then be in the minority. Please don't misconstrue my words. Many of the Hispanic people that I knew in California wouldn't have anything to do with this group, worked hard, and loved the U.S. (oh, and were here legally) - but this group, through the liberal politicians in L.A. and SF and Sac, are pushing to have all right for all immigrants (even the illegals) including the right to vote. I'm sorry, but this group is about as UN-american as it gets... It used to be that I thought the solution to the "Mexico problem" was to simply invite them into the union, but these days, I really doubt that would do much besides overburden our welfare system and therefore our budget.
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 12:28:21 PM EDT
One thing I have to admit about the illegal aliens here--they really know how to fly under the radar! They don't pay taxes, they don't worry about gun laws, licenses for cars, or labor laws or most any other laws. They are near complete outsiders to the system and yet their labor is so valuable that the system mostly ignores them unless they commit a serious crime. I often wonder which of us is better off / less of a slave. Another example of the "proles" from the book 1984.
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 1:39:04 PM EDT
They are communists: [url]http://www.aztlan.org/navcuba.htm[/url] The article I quoted from their site was written by an editor for the Granma. For those who don't know, the Granma is the Communist News Outlet in Cuba and every word it prints has to meet Castro's approval.
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 1:43:50 PM EDT
Anybody have a problem with giving Berkley, San Francisco, Sacramento, and Los Angeles to Mexico ? Let them rot with the rest of the Communists (La Raza Unida.)
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 1:45:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SouthernShark: Its just another Red Herring to make us forget about the Canadians on our Northern Borders..... -SS
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LOL! blame canada...blame canada...blame canada i think i'll watch south park the movie again [:D]
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 1:57:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cc48510: Anybody have a problem with giving Berkley, San Francisco, Sacramento, and Los Angeles to Mexico ? Let them rot with the rest of the Communists (La Raza Unida.)
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I have no problem with this, just how do you propose to hang onto that gem, San Diego. It truly is a beautiful town - altho, sadly, it too is becoming more and more Liberal.
Link Posted: 11/15/2001 2:24:01 PM EDT
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