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Posted: 3/30/2008 11:52:19 AM EDT

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Bottle openers?

Who went to the clink for making and selling the bottle openers?

Well you know the ATF's position on shoestrings.

Yeah...

ETA: But there was an ARFCOMMER who got nailed for bottle openers...seriously.

Link or I call

DO I NEED TO THROW AWAY THE DILLO?

Posted: 3/30/2008 12:05:32 PM EDT

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The ATF went around on this topic years back.

AR-15 = OK
LL = OK

LL + AR-15 in the same room = constructive intent/prison time

Posted: 3/30/2008 12:07:02 PM EDT

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DO I NEED TO THROW AWAY THE DILLO?

Nah man, I doubt the ATF cares about your dildo.

Posted: 3/30/2008 12:14:28 PM EDT

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The folks who don't do it legally, while there is still a legal way to do it...

Make things harder for those who do follow the rules, and push us closer to a day where NO ONE can do it legally...

We as free men have Natural Rights that allow us to keep and bear arms.

Any laws restricting or infringing on that right are by definition illegal. Especially in the United States, where it is Constitutionally protected.

A room full of crooked and ignorant politicians, elected or otherwise, cannot alter this fact. No amount of law or regulation will EVER make it anything less than a human rights violation to regulate or restrict the keeping of arms.

try convincing a judge on that idea.

Posted: 3/30/2008 12:56:04 PM EDT

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DO I NEED TO THROW AWAY THE DILLO?

Nah man, I doubt the ATF cares about your dildo.

lol, you know what im talking about...

Posted: 3/30/2008 12:58:08 PM EDT

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A machinist with half a brain could make these pretty easy.

I may know someone who does it.

Posted: 3/30/2008 12:58:53 PM EDT

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A machinist with half a brain could make these pretty easy.

I may know someone who does it.

Anyone could make one of these with patience and a hand file.

Posted: 3/30/2008 1:02:58 PM EDT

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i think you should do it

then we can have a "im posting from federal prison" thread

Posted: 3/30/2008 1:04:22 PM EDT

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do it

Posted: 3/30/2008 2:05:52 PM EDT

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A machinist with half a brain could make these pretty easy.

I may know someone who does it.

Did you leave your account logged in, or are you just lonely for prison love?

Posted: 3/30/2008 2:16:53 PM EDT

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A machinist with half a brain could make these pretty easy.

I may know someone who does it.

Did you leave your account logged in, or are you just lonely for prison love?

He might know an SOT. Or maybe not...

Posted: 3/30/2008 2:17:29 PM EDT

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I think it was an ATF administrative ruling, not a court case.

Tell your friend to keep his mouth shut about it, whatever he decides to do.

Posted: 3/30/2008 2:20:28 PM EDT

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If it were perfectly legal to own a machine gun, no paperwork required, no tax stamps, I still don't know if I'd be really interested in one. Ammo costs too much!!!
Maybe a F/A 1022 would be neat, but thats about it.

Yeah, Full Auto is fun to play with a time or two, but when you're footing the bill it loses it's appeal.

Like when I was qualifying with the M-16. One guy asked if he was allowed to use it F/A. The response? "Go ahead, but you won't hit anything."

Posted: 3/30/2008 2:26:13 PM EDT

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Ill keep my semi auto with the prices of ammo.

Posted: 3/30/2008 2:29:48 PM EDT

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Ill keep my semi auto with the prices of ammo.

No shit.

Glad I've been reloading. Still, components are starting to get pricey.

Posted: 3/30/2008 2:33:24 PM EDT

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Bump method, the poor man's auto.

Just having information on building full auto parts along with a scrap piece of metal laying around your house, could be considered intent. Abandon the idea.

Bullsh*t.

Then come haul me away.
I've got tubing, hacksaws, welders, sheetmetal, etc. all over the shop.
I am - as are MANY, fully aware what the manufacturing neccesary to
create many "illegal items" yet I do not act on them.

Why? Because I like my freedom.
Knowledge is not illegal - acting on it, is.

If they really wanted to get you they could probably figure out some way or another to slap a conspiracy charge on you just for thinking about it/having the knowledge.

Posted: 3/30/2008 2:38:31 PM EDT

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I always find these kinds of discussions interesting, because many of the same "boating accident / cold, dead hands" folks are the same ones saying not to do it/violation of federal law/etc. Something doesn't square there.

it's called the CODE OF CONDUCT for this site.

advocating an illegal act will have you removed. NO ONE is going to tell you to do it. what they do themselves in on them. but i SERIOUSLY doubt you will ever hear anyone advocating such a thing.

to the OP....

a LL is a registered NFA part just like a RDIAS. they must be manufactured by a licensed indivdual/company/serialised and transfered through the regualr NFA process. IIRC they also MUST be pre 1986 for use by civillians.

Making your own violates enough federal laws to cause you some SERIOUS grief.

nothing wrong with owning the knowldege but just becuase you bought a cd with the instructions doesn't make it legal. If he makes on i reccomend you NEVER be around when it's shot. Frankly i'd never be around them in any way shape or form in regards to firearms. wrong place at the wrong time can be a bitch when it comes to this stuff.

Posted: 3/30/2008 2:50:48 PM EDT

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Bottle openers?

Who went to the clink for making and selling the bottle openers?

Well you know the ATF's position on shoestrings.

Yeah...

ETA: But there was an ARFCOMMER who got nailed for bottle openers...seriously.

Link or I call

I remeber that...

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