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Posted: 11/3/2001 9:40:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2001 9:39:05 AM EST by Don_R]
Anyone done any successful business with them? I sent them a check for a Colt 32rd 9MM mag about 2.5 wks ago and still nothing...they say that they sent it USPS Priority mail, but I have received nothing. They say that they sent another on Tuesday USPS Priority mail, but still nothing. Has anyone gotten anything from these guys? Should I be asking the US Post office about their business practices thru the mail? They do have a valid FFL# for now...Thanks for any input. Sterling. AND my response to ALL the posts from ONE day: Glad to hear that I am not the only one to have dealt with these folks. I did receive the Colt Factory mag yesterday evening in the regular mail, no signature required, unlike the guy on the other end of the phone (who said that he was Stephens' dad) stated. He (the dad) apparently did send out my mag as he stated on Oct 31st, but his son, Stephen or Tim Marsh as he represented himself in my return e-mail to his post, did not. I called the number in the e-mail after not receiving my mag and it was a FAX machine! I called a friend of mine and we finally just called information and asked them for the number and got a good one. When the gentleman answered the phone I asked for Tim and he said that there was no one at that location by that name. I then asked about someone selling Colt 9MM mags and he said that he was outside doing, and I quote 'something', and asked for me to call back in 20 minutes...guess what happened in 20 minutes...no answer. I do not understand this sort of business, why would someone give a false name? they gave me a VALID ffl# and upon checking with the ATF's web site, it is the same address as the business where I sent my check! That was pretty stupid. I am glad to have finally received my magazine and hope that no one has been REALLY screwed by these folks. It will be my mission in life to see that no one does business over the internet with these folks again. I want everyone to know about this deal and deals like it with this/these so-called businesspersons no matter what they claim their name to be. Oh, BTW, when I received the package that Stephens' father sent, it was return addressed to Tim Marsh...go fig. Rant mode OFF. Sterling. Please check out these links for all the details: [url]http://subguns.biggerhammer.net/inquiry.cgi?read=14426[/url] And: [url]http://subguns.biggerhammer.net/inquiry.cgi?read=14308[/url] PLEASE MAKE THIS A MUST READ AND PLACE AT THE TOP OF THE BOARD! BUSINESSES LIKE THIS SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN, OR AT *LEAST* SHOULD *NOT* HAVE A FFL.
Link Posted: 11/3/2001 7:35:03 PM EST
Just to clarify, this is not the Ultimate Outdoors located in Waskom, Texas with URL of http://www.ultout.com/ correct? I have done several successful transactions with the Texas based Ultimate Outdoors. Similar names, might be a good idea clarify a bit further. $0.02.
Link Posted: 11/4/2001 3:11:58 AM EST
bbauman, No, it is not the one in Tx. These yahoos are located in Augusta, Ga, sorry for the confusion. Sterling.
Link Posted: 11/6/2001 11:23:25 AM EST
S.Bay has had problematic deals for a good while now. As you already know from Subguns he will post under different names on all the various boards to try and make deals. When selling the deal usually gets completed but there have been several instances like yours or instances of $ money returned (after waiting) when he didn't have the goods. When he wants to buy something from you that's another major problem! He routinely backs out of deals and never once mentions it while you sit there waiting on payment.
Link Posted: 11/7/2001 8:40:45 AM EST
In his defense, I have conducted about 15-20 transactions with Ultimate outdoors without a single problem. We have sent him stuff and he sent a check within the week. All in all about $2000 worth of merchandise or more in the last 6 months. Tommy GPSS
Link Posted: 11/7/2001 9:34:37 AM EST
all the stuff that i have ever posted i have all ways had the stuff. some times it might take a week to two weeks to get the stuff sent off never less thanks TOMMY and one more thing to MAG i dont write bad f...king checks
Link Posted: 11/7/2001 11:43:08 AM EST
SBay..my friend, can I call you my friend?...I guess my statement does sound BAD. We both know it was next to lunch money[:D].I will delete my post,you are right.But I did not accuse you of bad checks.
Link Posted: 11/7/2001 12:32:35 PM EST
MAG no problem i just cant stand people crying like stercraz i give him a good deal on a mag and look what he does but never less every body have a good day if any body needs some thing im hear
Link Posted: 11/7/2001 4:57:59 PM EST
i imagine you are prtty tired of hearing people cry! must be why youre banned from 2 major sites,both subguns and sturmgewher. pay attention to the above listed links in stercaz posts. thanks for providing the links.i wish AR15 had a board of inquiry,it would make life a lot easier and force people to live up to their word
Link Posted: 11/7/2001 9:26:32 PM EST
Man that guy seems to get around...
Link Posted: 11/8/2001 2:51:49 AM EST
one more thing the reason why i got kicked off subguns is i posted over 3 adds
Link Posted: 11/8/2001 5:05:36 AM EST
if you post over 3 ads at a time,subguns.com will remove the ads,not ban you. its was a little more serious than that.
Link Posted: 11/8/2001 5:28:34 AM EST
well that is what happen JAY BELL emailed me and told me i posted over 3 adds and i am now band
Link Posted: 11/8/2001 9:52:39 AM EST
And I'm the dumb ass........ Oh BTW thanks for delightful email you just sent me. I'll post it for the world to see > > From: <902mhz@home.com> > Date: 2001/11/08 Thu AM 07:59:22 EST > To: > Subject: BUT... > > boy you are a dumb ass how many times do i have to tell you > > ULTIMATE OUTDOORS INC > 1902 BATTLE ROW > AUGUSTA GA 30904 > E-MAIL > ultimateoutdoors@home.com > 706-364-9876 > ffl # > 1-58-245-01-4a-00373 > Stercraz
Link Posted: 11/8/2001 10:17:04 AM EST
[-!-][-!-!-][chainsawkill][moon][spank]
Link Posted: 11/8/2001 10:20:02 AM EST
BTW, Stephen, I'm only posting the truth, I'm not crying. I only want to make people aware of your business practices, which I think they already are. Like I have said before, I am not the only one involved with you in these he said/she said deals, I told everyone that I received my mag and was willing to leave it that, but you want to keep digging your grave, I don't understand exactly why, but that's your business. Please do not post any more to AR15.com or any other forum. Sterling Woodruff
Link Posted: 11/8/2001 10:25:01 AM EST
[-!-][-!-][-!-][-!-][-!-][-!-][-!-][-!-][-!-][-!-] COME ON DOWN TO AUGUSTA GA ILL EVEN PAY YOUR FAIR, JUST FOR A CHANCE TO KICK YOUR A--!!! CRY BABY BITCH...
Link Posted: 11/8/2001 10:46:35 AM EST
MP5PDW, If you have any proof that Stercraz is wrong, please post your proof. If not be warned that name calling and piss fights will not be tolerated. If you wish tio dispute this calmly, please go ahead. Any further personal attacks will be your last here.
Link Posted: 11/8/2001 10:57:21 AM EST
I TOLD HIM THAT 3 PEOPLE WORK HEAR AND HE IS SAYING NO BUT NEVER LESS THE MAG CAME TO HIM A LITTLE LATE AND NOW HE IS TRYING TO GIVE ME A BAD NAME ONE MORE THING STUFF BEING SENT THROUGH THE MAIL HAS BEEN SLOW I HAVE BEEN WAITING ON STUFF SINCE SEP 11 I SAID ENOUGH ILL LET HIM DO WHAT HE THINKS IS RIGHT [beer]
Link Posted: 11/8/2001 12:07:48 PM EST
You wax poetic... From: <902mhz@home.com> Date: 2001/11/08 Thu PM 03:22:43 EST To: Subject: Re: He uses aliases because he is banned. I HAVE BEEN YOUING THAT NAME ON THE AR15.COM BOARD FOR ALL MOST A YEAR JUST KEEP ON BITCHING YOU LITTLE CRY BABY
Link Posted: 11/8/2001 2:44:03 PM EST
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