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Posted: 10/1/2001 11:13:32 AM EDT
I am looking for a pistol in 45acp for everyday carry. What is important to me is a compact size (barrel 4" or less), 7-10 round capacity, and no rough edges to snag. I am not too worried about the weight. Any ideas?
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 11:14:28 AM EDT
Nothing wrong with a 1911...
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 11:17:36 AM EDT
Expensive or custom.....1911, reasonably cheap and needs no work....Glock 36.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 11:21:27 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 11:21:29 AM EDT
colt light weight commander, or if you can afford the pre-ban mags, a para ordinance p-12 [pistol]
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 11:24:45 AM EDT
I really like the Kimbers. I think out of the box they are probably the best value.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 11:32:44 AM EDT
Wilson Combat KZ-45 Compact. [img]http://www.wilsoncombat.com/pistols/images/KZcompact.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 11:43:07 AM EDT
Glock 36, goes bang *every* single time you pull the trigger, indestructible, works out of the box. What more do you need?
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 11:47:17 AM EDT
If you can afford that Wilson gun, go for it. They're awesome.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 11:49:33 AM EDT
I like 1911's, but for carry it's hard to beat either a Glock 30 or 36. USP's are nice too, take your pick. The Glock 36 is smaller.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 12:12:24 PM EDT
Here is the link with more stats on the Wilson Combat. (It is the cheapest Wilson Combat pistol offered) [url]http://www.wilsoncombat.com/pistols/kz45_compact.asp[/url] [img]http://www.wilsoncombat.com/pistols/images/KZcompact2.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 12:15:51 PM EDT
How is the recoil on the Glock 36? Is the slide easy to rack and/or release? I handled one in a gun store a while ago, and I could barely release the slide with one hand. Is that normal, and if so, does this improve? BTW, it wasn't just me...the guy at the store could barely release it too.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 12:23:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chimborazo: How is the recoil on the Glock 36? Is the slide easy to rack and/or release? I handled one in a gun store a while ago, and I could barely release the slide with one hand. Is that normal, and if so, does this improve? BTW, it wasn't just me...the guy at the store could barely release it too.
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When a fresh mag is inserted, it is best just to pull the slide back and release. The reason is the slide is not fully to the rear when held by the catch. The technique is described right in the manual that comes with the pistol. Not quite the same as handling a 1911. With no mag in place and the catch holding the slide back, it's easier if you pull the slide back a little and then operate the release with your thumb.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 12:26:33 PM EDT
My 19 is easy to release. I guess the 36 has stiffer springs though. Maybe I'm just a girlie-man.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 12:28:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chimborazo: How is the recoil on the Glock 36? Is the slide easy to rack and/or release? I handled one in a gun store a while ago, and I could barely release the slide with one hand. Is that normal, and if so, does this improve? BTW, it wasn't just me...the guy at the store could barely release it too.
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I've got one works great shoots groups like custom 1911. as far as the slide release never had a problem. Ready for carry right out of box.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 12:29:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 12:37:16 PM EDT
Way too many choices out there. You need to handle them and find one that feels right. Shoot them if you can. I would stick with a reputable manufacturer. On the top of my list would be Wilson Combat, Kimber, Les Baer and Springfield Armory. I personally carry a minimally modified Colt Gold Cup National Match, but only because I can't afford the big bucks right now to have a second .45 specifically for carry. I have carried a Colt Officer's Model (3.25" bbl) and it was a great carry weapon, except for the weight (all stainless model). Good luck.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 12:45:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By HiramRanger: Kimber Ultra CDP... she rarely leaves my side.
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I will have to agree, I love mine....
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 12:51:38 PM EDT
Glock 30 hands down. 10 rds of rompin' stompin' 45 ACP smackdown in a small light package! [pistol]
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 1:03:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/1/2001 1:15:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By HiramRanger: The best carry gun is the one you are comfortable carring and will thus carry all the time. I couldn't imagine carrying that thick assed G30!
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LOL! It helps to be a little "thick" yourself. In my case, I'm 6'1", 240 lbs, so skinny I ain't! I can't hide my P14 though.... A lot of it has to do with holster choice and clothing. In hot weather, I carry a SP101 in a pocket holster. I can completely hide it even wearing shorts and a t-shirt. The rest of the time I have no problems hiding my G30 and spare mags. If it's really cold out or I'm driving and wearing a jacket, I carry my P14 in a shoulder rig. Max Firepower!
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 1:53:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/1/2001 1:48:37 PM EDT by GodBlessTexas]
Originally Posted By Darin_Marple: I am looking for a pistol in 45acp for everyday carry. What is important to me is a compact size (barrel 4" or less), 7-10 round capacity, and no rough edges to snag. I am not too worried about the weight. Any ideas?
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Isn't a compact barrel kind of detrimental to the .45ACP's balistic performance? Not being a 1911 person myself, I've always heard that from the 1911 people I hang out with when I bring up the subject of getting a compact 1911 for concealed carry. Still, with what you suggest, it sounds like the Kimber Compact or Pro CDP is exactly what you're looking for with it's "meltdown" treated exterior to get rid of rough edges. The only difference between the two is the Compact has a shortened grip, while the Pro is full-size grip while both retain the 4" barrel. I've been thinking about getting the full-size Custom CDP. I wish them made something like it with the Stainless frame instead of the aluminum. God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 1:54:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/1/2001 1:51:48 PM EDT by GodBlessTexas]
Here's a picture of the Custom CDP. [img]www.kimberamerica.com/_images/19.4-Custom-CDP-L%5B047%5DS.jpg[/img] Ain't she purty? [:D] Here's the Compact CDP [img]www.kimberamerica.com/_images/19.2-Compact-CDP-R%5B047%5DS.jpg[/img] The Pro CDP looks just like the Compact, but with a slightly larger grip. They only have a small pic of it on the Kimber site, but here it is. [img]www.kimberamerica.com/_images/19.3-Pro-CDP-L%5B047%5DS.jpg[/img] God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 2:39:44 PM EDT
Colt commander, If you got the money look at Guniste's GSP line a great pistol for the price. Clinth
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 2:46:35 PM EDT
My carry is Combat Commander... nice and flat and can be hidden anywhere. My second choice would be my Glock 30. However, for ankle carry, I use my Walther PPK.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 2:59:34 PM EDT
It really depends on what you want to spend and what action type your comfortable with.If you want DA,then the Glock is the lightest,smallest,accurate and reliable.Reasonable $500 price to. If its a SA 1911 type you want the choices are infinite.Money buying you more hand/custom work.For about $600-700 you can get a Colt defender or Kimber Ultra Carry.These are basically production guns with 3" barrel and alluminum frame,depends on which brand you like.Both are good and there are many loyal fans of either make. For about $1000 you can get a Kimber CDP ultra carry that has more attention to detail and hand fitting invoved in its construction aswell as a great carry "melt"that pretty much renders it snag free.For this price you can also get the polymer Wilson,I beleive it holds 10 rounds and has a 4" barrel.I think everyone would agree that Wilson is topflight in whatever they build. You could spend alot more on the SA types,but why?Hope this helps.Byron
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 3:15:42 PM EDT
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agreed, I can easily conceal mine with a sidearmor holster, and it can use glock 21 magazines, although they stick out of the grip
Originally Posted By Hambone_22345: Glock 30 hands down. 10 rds of rompin' stompin' 45 ACP smackdown in a small light package! [pistol]
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Link Posted: 10/1/2001 3:17:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/1/2001 3:12:08 PM EDT by Santyth]
I've been reading good things about the Taurus PT-145. [img]www.taurususa.com/pix/pt145newammo.jpg[/img] 10 +1 45ACP in a light, compact DAO pistol. [url]http://www.taurususa.com/pt145.html[/url]
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 4:20:06 PM EDT
glock 30..good capacity and great accuracy. was playing around with one at the range a month ago and taking 100 yard shots on a steel shilohette and hittin 3 of 5 consistently..
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 4:45:29 PM EDT
When I carry a .45 it's my Kimber Pro Elite. Full size grip, 4" barrel...perfect.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 4:49:48 PM EDT
I would like the glock 36 cept it feels like a 2x4 in my hand. I have fairly small hands (7 1/2 glove). Anybody with small hands using this piece? Should I give it another chance? Used to shoot an officer's model, but was too chicken to carry it locked and cocked.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 5:01:31 PM EDT
Beretta Mini Cougar, need I say more..
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 6:53:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/1/2001 6:50:04 PM EDT by Tailgate]
Full sized Government model 1911 with 5" barrel. They conceal nicely. In the words of Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch "When it comes to busting caps to save your life, you will be thinking 'Why don't they make a bigger gun!'". Compact is *nice*, but a full sized gun is much more stable in your hands...especially when the adrenaline is pumping hard. ON EDIT: If you have small hands (mine are), get thin grips on your 1911. That combined with the single stack magazine make a GREAT pistol for smaller handed shooters.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 7:27:12 PM EDT
I Love my Colt Defender.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 9:15:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 9:49:43 PM EDT
My first choice is the HK USP.45C (got one, LOVE it), second is the Wilson Combat KZ-45 Compact (I don't have one yet, but I wantz one really bad). Tyler
Link Posted: 10/2/2001 12:31:41 AM EDT
Nothing comes close to the Glock 36, IMHO. [img]www.remtek.com/arms/glock/model/45/36/36.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 10/2/2001 1:55:08 AM EDT
How bout a Sig P245? 6 in the mag and one in the chamber gives you 7. Feels a helluva lot better in your hand that a Glock. I have the P220 full size and love everything about it.
Link Posted: 10/2/2001 6:05:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By GodBlessTexas: Isn't a compact barrel kind of detrimental to the .45ACP's balistic performance? Not being a 1911 person myself, I've always heard that from the 1911 people I hang out with when I bring up the subject of getting a compact 1911 for concealed carry. God Bless Texas
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Actually, since the .45 ACP is a low-pressure round (compared to .40 S&W and 9mm) the shorter barrel has very little effect on velocity. Now, a shorter barrel on a .40 or 9 sillymeter results in a much larger decrease in velocity.
Link Posted: 10/2/2001 10:44:23 AM EDT
Thanks for all of the feedback. I will look into the wilson, kimber and glock 36.
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