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Posted: 9/27/2001 5:34:36 PM EST
I live in Illinois, and I was wondering what the laws are for carrying knives. I would ideally like to carry a non-foldable knife, possibly in a leg sheath or in some other manner. Any idea of the legality of this? I have heard from some people that the knife cannot be concealed and from others that you can conceal the knife, but it can only have a certain blade length... I figured the laws may change locally, but as a general rule, what is safe and what is not? What could be a situation (other than a traffic stop) where a police officer could actually search a person and find a knife (just in case it may be illegal in that area, and not locally, what are the odds of them finding it?) Since Illinois decided they wanted to be gun nazi's, I figured maybe a decent non-folder would be a nice option, given a sticky situation...
Link Posted: 9/27/2001 6:19:21 PM EST
Originally Posted By Marksman14: I live in Illinois, and I was wondering what the laws are for carrying knives. I would ideally like to carry a non-foldable knife, possibly in a leg sheath or in some other manner. Any idea of the legality of this? I have heard from some people that the knife cannot be concealed and from others that you can conceal the knife, but it can only have a certain blade length... I figured the laws may change locally, but as a general rule, what is safe and what is not? What could be a situation (other than a traffic stop) where a police officer could actually search a person and find a knife (just in case it may be illegal in that area, and not locally, what are the odds of them finding it?) Since Illinois decided they wanted to be gun nazi's, I figured maybe a decent non-folder would be a nice option, given a sticky situation...
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Contact your local political representatives and ask 'em. They seem to have heard from the anti side in the past - let them know your side of the story. And get and read a hardcopy of the regulations.
Link Posted: 9/27/2001 6:57:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/27/2001 6:58:08 PM EST by ColtShorty]
Here you go : [url]http://pweb.netcom.com/~brlevine/il.txt[/url] Illinois Criminal Code 720 ILCS 5/24-1. Unlawful Use of Weapons. (a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he knowingly... (2) Carries or possesses with intent to use the same unlawfully against another, a dagger, dirk, billy, dangerous knife, razor, stiletto, broken bottle or other piece of glass... or any other dangerous or deadly weapon of like character... - 720 ILCS 5/33A-1... A person is considered armed with a dangerous weapon... when he carries on or about his person or is otherwise armed with a category I or category II weapon. (b) A category I weapon is a [firearm or] a knife with a blade at least 3 inches in length, dagger, dirk, switchblade knife, stiletto, or any other deadly or dangerous weapon of like character. - 720 ILCS 5/24-1. Unlawful Use of Weapons. (a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he knowingly: (1) Sells, manufactures, purchases, possesses or carries any... knife commonly referred to as a switchblade knife, which has a blade that opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in the handle of the knife, or a ballistic knife, which is a device that propels a knifelike blade as a projectile by means of a coil spring, elastic material, or compressed gas... - 720 ILCS 5/33A-1... A person is considered armed with a dangerous weapon... when he carries on or about his person or is otherwise armed with a category I or category II weapon. (b) A category I weapon is a [firearm or] a knife with a blade at least 3 inches in length, dagger, dirk, switchblade knife, stiletto, or any other deadly or dangerous weapon of like character. Illinois Case Law: - "Possession of hunting knife is not a crime; however, knowingly carrying or possessing dangerous weapon with intent to use same unlawfully against another constitutes offense..." (1982) - "Weapon not listed in statute can become "dangerous weapon" when it is used in a manner dangerous to well being of individual threatened, and knife with blade less than 3 inches in length can be dangerous weapon if used in such manner." (1991) - "A straight-blade razor did not constitute a per se dangerous weapon, for purposes of armed violence charge..." (1987) - "Walking cane, even if not per se dangerous, was... transformed by defendant's usage into a dangerous weapon." (1977) ColtShorty GOA KABA COA JPFO SAF NRA "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them."
Link Posted: 9/27/2001 7:13:42 PM EST
ColtShorty, Im no john arshcroft, so Im having bit of trouble interpreting those laws... Basically, from what I am understanding, I can carry ANY knife with a blade under 3 inches long at any time. What I am confused to is this...section 720 ILCS 5/33A-1 says that I am "armed with a dangerous weapon" if the blade is over 3 inches long, however, an Illinois case law states that a hunting knife is exempt from this law, so long as its intent is something other than harming another person. Now...what is the definition of a hunting knife? for the sake arguement, can the M9 bayonet be defined as a hunting knife?
Link Posted: 9/27/2001 7:26:14 PM EST
My brother and I were fishing at Burns harbor a few years ago. WE were at the boat launch area off of the access road to Meigs Field. It was summer and a lot of people were around. The Grateful Dead were playing at Soldier Field just across Lake Shore Drive. My brother was coming back from the porta-potties and walked by a group of 8 or 9 Chicago cops. One of the cops noticed the 4 1/2 inch Buck lockblade in the sheath on my brother's belt. All he did was casually suggest to my brother, that he might want to consider putting the knife in his pocket. It's up to you, but if you're a clean-cut looking guy, polite and well-spoken, you probably won't be bothered. I carry an Al Mar Auto-Sear without a lot of worry.
Link Posted: 9/27/2001 7:31:03 PM EST
Hunting knife?? Back in my hunting days I used to carry an old Mauser bayonet. I remember running into a couple of conservation cops & they never said anything about it. Of course I WAS hunting at the time. As far as carrying ANY knife with a 3" or smaller blade, I would'nt recomend any kind of auto knife in Illinois. My youngest nephew got caught with his switchblade last year, cost him (his mom) some $$ & about 6 months probation. I would say that the attitude of the LEO who observed whatever knife you carry will be the deciding factor. I carry auto's on me alot & also large sheath knives in my vehicles at times & I don't really think about the legality of it much. But if I remember correctly you are alot younger than I so an LEO would probably give you a harder time than he would give me if caught. ColtShorty GOA KABA COA JPFO SAF NRA "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them."
Link Posted: 9/27/2001 8:43:27 PM EST
The police have alot of discression. If you plan on getting a good job any time in the future, I would err on the side of caution. You can never outrun your record. On the other hand, if you already have accomplished your goals in life and can afford a good lawyer, then you can aford the luxury of civil disobediance. Just my .02c
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