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Posted: 9/23/2001 4:44:51 PM EDT
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Quoted: anyone shoot it? can any 45 be converted? what is involved in the conversion? i read that it can have upwards of 700 ft lbs of energy...(thats more than ANY 357 mag ive ever seen...) thanks Get a HK USP .45 and have at it. I believe it's the only factory .45 ACP on the market that the manufacturer claims can handle the loads without modification. The 1911 needs some serious work to handle the extra pressure. It's not a spring drop-in conversion. |
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Posted: 9/23/2001 4:58:52 PM EDT
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Here is the web site I found that deal with .45 Super:
[url]http://www.acecustom45.com/[/url] Here is the web site for the ammo: [url]http://www.texas-ammo.com/[/url] i haven't shot any of it yet, but I really want to have my S&W converted over just to try it. I've been wanting to write them to see just what kind of gunsmithing is needed to do the conversion. Which article did you read about it? |
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Posted: 9/23/2001 7:11:27 PM EDT
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Wgunn is right. I shoot it in my HK USP all the time. Today, as a matter of fact. Fun to shoot, and not a whole lot of recoil in the HK. It is simply recommended that you change out the recoil spring after about 3000 rounds of the stuff.
Oh, and I wouldn't shoot it thru a USP Compact...they don't have the heavy duty recoil system that the full size USP does. |
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Posted: 9/23/2001 7:16:26 PM EDT
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really? they dont? read a website about the USP compacts that says they do...says they will hold up to all +p and +p+ ammo...
http://www.stgsupply.com/compact.htm |
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Posted: 9/23/2001 7:22:07 PM EDT
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.45 Super is stronger than +p+
I'll post pics of the two recoil systems if you want me to. Then you can see for yourself which looks beefier. |
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Posted: 9/23/2001 7:33:13 PM EDT
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didnt mean any offence by that BTW.
just read it...wanted to know i would like to see them, thanks |
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Posted: 9/23/2001 7:44:12 PM EDT
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None taken at all. I will post them in a few mins...
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Posted: 9/23/2001 7:54:40 PM EDT
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Here ya go. The .45 full size is on the top. Notice that it has two springs. A .40 Compact (same setup as the .45 compact) is on the bottom. Notice that it uses that plastic bushing as a recoil absorber.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask via this board or thru e-mail. [img]http://wsphotofews.excite.com/035/GU/ZL/pI/hy24340.jpg[/img] |
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Posted: 9/23/2001 7:57:25 PM EDT
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wow, you werent kiddin
what exactly needs to be done to convert them? shouldnt the barrel/chamber take up most of the pressure from the round? dont they have built up cases for that reason as well? thanks again |
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Posted: 9/23/2001 8:04:57 PM EDT
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Nothin needs to be done on the full size. On the compacts, you'll probably need to increase the spring strength.
Yes, the barrel and extra brass will take up the pressure, but you also have a lot more recoil to deal with. Enough to damage the frame. The compact simply isn't set up to handle it. |
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Posted: 9/23/2001 8:09:25 PM EDT
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ok, i just meant in general for 45's not necessarily the USP compact. but its probably the same though? too much will damage any frame right? for a 1911 variant (Para Ord, Kimner Etc.) is this conversion still possible?
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Posted: 9/23/2001 8:25:18 PM EDT
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From what I understand, it is not possible on the Kimber CDP's because of their lightweight frame. But other 1911's should be able to handle it with a new spring. There are some 1911's out there now that come from the factory rated for 45 Super. The only one I can think of right off is the Springfield. From what I understand, for these to shoot 45 ACP, you need to put in a weaker spring.
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Posted: 9/24/2001 9:05:56 AM EDT
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Springfield's Longslide V16 is designed for .45 Super and .45ACP. Check them out:
[url]www.springfield-armory.com[/url] |
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Posted: 9/24/2001 9:14:16 AM EDT
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I think, IIRC, the biggest modification on a standard M1911 frame is to install a ramped barrel. That of course means milling away the feed ramp in the frame. Add a heavier spring and I think that is it.
Ace Custom is the originator of the .45 Super. And, again IIRC, used 1911's originally. [url]www.acecustom45.com/[/url] |
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Posted: 9/24/2001 10:01:03 AM EDT
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If you are going to go to very much expense then go ahead and convert to .460 Rowland (approching .44 mag) and you can shoot .45acp,.45super and .460 Rowland. I think Brownells sells a drop-in conversion kit.
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