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Posted: 9/21/2001 5:57:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/21/2001 6:49:41 PM EDT by Slufstuff]
You have to go to this site and read about the pacifist, socialist, Kumbaya singing American traitors at the University of North Carolina. If somebody can turn it into a link, please do so. Notice the e-mail address at the bottom for the University chancellor. Please send him your opinion of the state sponsored America bashing. I sure did! [url]www.frontpagemag.com/guestcolumnists/oswell09-21-01.htm[/url] [:(!] [red]your wish is my command. consider it a working link. --ARlady[/red]
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 6:03:42 PM EDT
wonder if they ever stopped to think that they can only do this shit because they're in the good ol' U.S.ofA. do they really think their commie country ideal would let them spout anything at all? [puke]
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 6:09:50 PM EDT
Thanks ARlady for making the link. I hope everybody on the forum tonight will take a minute to go over, read, get mad and send appropriate e-mail. But let's be classy, no obscene stuff. In my e-mail I let him know I was a USAF vet and was appalled and offended by this type of thing, when thousands of dead Americans are still buried in the rubble.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 6:12:40 PM EDT
If this crap happened at Texas A&M where I live there would be carnage
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 6:53:49 PM EDT
BTT. Sorry fellows, but this really steams me, and it is almost in my backyard. Let's overflow this University chancellor's e-mail box with outrage. How about some feedback posts to keep it up for a while. Thanks.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:00:33 PM EDT
AR15Bubba, What part of Texas you live in? Got a place in outdoor resorts. Friends have been calling us about the causway to Padre Island getting hit by a cargo ship thingy. You hear anything?
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:03:11 PM EDT
I just emailed everyone I know and some I dont know. Wish these jerks would pack up and live in Afghan-a-land. Steam me up isnt the word I would use.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:06:48 PM EDT
I heard about this this morning. makes me sick. [-!-] for UNC. Now I wish that my daughter wasn't born here. Bad enough that she has the same b-day as Billy Clinton. Maybe Strom needs to get involved. [smoke]
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:06:53 PM EDT
I'd love to be auditing one of thier classes!
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:07:26 PM EDT
Well, the leftists have the media, the schools, the unions, and the judicial system. What makes me puke is many of those professors are old enough to know better, yet they continue to spew their vile garbage. Talk about doing a disservice to the kids.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:08:28 PM EDT
These Commies should be deported one and all. Especially those comparing this to the Reichstag. For those who don't know they are accusing Bush of this atrocity. They need to be put down permanently. I practically grew up in North Carolina. I spent 3 months every year in the Mountains, where the people would hang traitors like this. We need to finish our job and wipe communism off the face of the earth. If that means NUking Vietnam, China, Laos, then so be it. We need to send troops in and liberate Cuba, then liberate North Carolina from this communist vermon. I especially take offense at the notion that Cubans are terrorists. I knew many damn good Cuban immigrants who came here to seek a better life. Everytime terrorism comes up thos damned commie liberals who get their news from the Granma (Cuuban Communist News) spout off this crap about Cuban-American terrorists. I've even heard CNN quote the Granma Cuban Communist Newspaper. When ourr own media starts quoting Communist propaganda we need to bash some heads.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:10:06 PM EDT
ARben, the bridge did get hit by a barge and destroyed a pretty big chunk of it. They are using ferrys to get back and forth right now. I haven't heard how long before the bridge is fully restored.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:10:37 PM EDT
ARBen I live in B/CS, working as an engineer. Barge hit Queen Isabella Causway at 2am, took out 240 feet of bridge. At least 5 cars went into the bay. 5 dead.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:14:16 PM EDT
I can't believe it! My tax dollars support this? Looks like time to call state reps, and senator to see about hitting them where it will REALLY hurt! The Wallet! Vulcan94
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:16:30 PM EDT
Our friends down there said there was no drugs or alcohol invloved and the captain was known to be a decent guy. Strange timing.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:25:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:29:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ARben: AR15Bubba, What part of Texas you live in?
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I'd assume he lives in Bryan/College Station, which is where Texas A&M is. The Aggies are good people, mostly, and I say that as a Longhorn. They are Texans after all. [:)]
Got a place in outdoor resorts. Friends have been calling us about the causway to Padre Island getting hit by a cargo ship thingy. You hear anything?
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We burried Stvan Rivas on Wednesday, who was one of the people who died in the accident. He was my wife's best friend, and she's still taking it pretty badly. He was heading home to get a good nights sleep before going to work the next morning, and decided to leave the birthday party he was at early. That's the kind of responsible and dependable guy Steve was. Even for short notice he had a huge crowd of family and friends. He touched a lot of lives, and they all came to say goodbye. It's still hard for us to accept that he's gone. He's been a part of our lives since I met my wife, and he was there when our first child was born. He wanted to be a Marine, but washed out of training when he blew out his knee. He picked himself up and didn't sulk about not being able to be one. He just decided there was something else he could do. We miss him dearly. And as far as these leftists bastards are concerned, they're not worth the sweat of the people who died for this country's freedoms. God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:48:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Slufstuff: You have to go to this site and read about the pacifist, socialist, Kumbaya singing American traitors at the University of North Carolina. If somebody can turn it into a link, please do so. Notice the e-mail address at the bottom for the University chancellor. Please send him your opinion of the state sponsored America bashing. I sure did! [url]www.frontpagemag.com/guestcolumnists/oswell09-21-01.htm[/url] [:(!]
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everyone in this thread are talking about the leftists spewing propaganda... yet that article is so entirely biased it makes me sick. enemies of america my @ss. they feel that the US foreign policy is unjust and the gov is too militaristic... they are citizens and its their right. the people own this nation, the government doesnt own them or their beliefs. in addition i agree with many of those "horrible" quotes that the author used to further his intolerant views. they werent even "anti american"... they feel that the US is acting unjustly and wants it to change its ways to respect the people on foreign soil as well as our own (the US does have its hands in nearly every corner of the globe, if they are going to be there, its their responsibility to protect humanity, not just its own interests). after all, a commie is better than a fascist. follow me on this one: the nationalistic sentiments throughout the nation because of tuesday's attack are often being based on the wrong reasons. too many people support bombing the hell out of afghanistan. nationalism based on a common hatred is almost as dangerous as the thoughts of these few religious fanatics/terrorists. fear and loathing for foreigners will undoubtedly lead to a great increase in military spending/world involvement/oppression. at the same time, most of you are calling for limiting freedom of speech and assembly for anyone with a less conservative veiwpoint as you (someone even mentioned deportation. wtf?!). the main characteristics of fascism are nationalism, militarism, a government controlled by a single group/party, and violation of basic human rights. from the looks of things, i fear that we as a nation are headed in that direction, slowly but surely.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:54:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheBeesKnees:
Originally Posted By Slufstuff: You have to go to this site and read about the pacifist, socialist, Kumbaya singing American traitors at the University of North Carolina. If somebody can turn it into a link, please do so. Notice the e-mail address at the bottom for the University chancellor. Please send him your opinion of the state sponsored America bashing. I sure did! [url]www.frontpagemag.com/guestcolumnists/oswell09-21-01.htm[/url] [:(!]
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everyone in this thread are talking about the leftists spewing propaganda... yet that article is so entirely biased it makes me sick. enemies of america my @ss. they feel that the US foreign policy is unjust and the gov is too militaristic... they are citizens and its their right. the people own this nation, the government doesnt own them or their beliefs. in addition i agree with many of those "horrible" quotes that the author used to further his intolerant views. they werent even "anti american"... they feel that the US is acting unjustly and wants it to change its ways to respect the people on foreign soil as well as our own (the US does have its hands in nearly every corner of the globe, if they are going to be there, its their responsibility to protect humanity, not just its own interests). after all, a commie is better than a fascist. follow me on this one: the nationalistic sentiments throughout the nation because of tuesday's attack are often being based on the wrong reasons. too many people support bombing the hell out of afghanistan. nationalism based on a common hatred is almost as dangerous as the thoughts of these few religious fanatics/terrorists. fear and loathing for foreigners will undoubtedly lead to a great increase in military spending/world involvement/oppression. at the same time, most of you are calling for limiting freedom of speech and assembly for anyone with a less conservative veiwpoint as you (someone even mentioned deportation. wtf?!). the main characteristics of fascism are nationalism, militarism, a government controlled by a single group/party, and violation of basic human rights. from the looks of things, i fear that we as a nation are headed in that direction, slowly but surely.
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[b]TROLL[/b]
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 7:58:51 PM EDT
what?
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:05:27 PM EDT
[b]TROLL[/b]
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:07:55 PM EDT
what excactly is a troll?
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:12:19 PM EDT
Send them ALL to FRANCE.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:18:06 PM EDT
I dont understand sometimes..... Did my part and emailed
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:20:30 PM EDT
Excellent post. BTT. OMG what is that smell?!? Hmm I think I smell some troll droppings.. Smalls Semper Fi
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:20:58 PM EDT
I wish we could have ALL been their.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:24:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheBeesKnees: what excactly is a troll?
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A troll is someone who has no interest in the primary function or reason for a site who comes in and posts something that he/she knows is contradictory to the majority belief just to stir things up. What you posted is just that and complete lunacy as well. Hence, TROLL. Oh, if you can't spell, at least use spellcheck.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:31:26 PM EDT
post an opposing opinion... get personal attacks.[rolleyes] if you are calling me a troll because you think i dont belong here, then i guess you dont know what this BB is. i fully support our 2nd amendment rights... that is the aim of this site, is it not? why should it matter what other views i have? i came here in hopes of some form of political discussion, but all i have recieved so far is intolerance and name calling. maybe this place isnt for me after all. then again, i have only gotten responses from a couple members, maybe im being to quick to judge?
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:33:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/21/2001 8:35:10 PM EDT by LARRYG]
Originally Posted By TheBeesKnees: post an opposing opinion... get personal attacks.[rolleyes] i fully support our 2nd amendment rights... that is the aim of this site, is it not then again,
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Sure you do. Your first post is complete lunacy and someone is supposed to believe this. Some other time, your point of view might not be as objectionable, but your timing sucks after what happened. There is no excuse for what happened, regardless of ideology or politics.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:36:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By LARRYG: A troll is someone who has no interest in the primary function or reason for a site who comes in and posts something that he/she knows is contradictory to the majority belief just to stir things up. What you posted is just that and complete lunacy as well. Hence, TROLL.
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thats not why i came here. but why is it so bad to disagree with someone? i read this thread and was horrified... i felt i needed to say something.
Oh, if you can't spell, at least use spellcheck.
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[:D]
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:37:06 PM EDT
I don't know I think if we are going to support 2nd ammendment rights we need to support 1st ammendment right. in my opinion the 2nd ammendment was set up to protect your other rights.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:40:13 PM EDT
So TheBeesKnees. Do you think that what they are saying is right? Yeah cut the military by 90 percent. Shit I thought we had crappy gear right now. Do you not think what they are saying is Anti-American? I love this country. I believe in our rights. I believe in their right to say this crap. When I think of them saying the same thing about the Taliban while they are in Kabul it makes me smile how their little congregation might get broken up. Smalls Semper Fi
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:41:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By LARRYG: Sure you do. Your first post is complete lunacy and someone is supposed to believe this.
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whatever... ive gotta get some sleep and i dont have time for this. maybe another time. later.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:44:20 PM EDT
"what excactly is a troll?" thebeesnees Someone just purposely stirring stuff up for entertainment purposes. If you really think what you are saying you need to go say it somewhere else. You may be partially right but you're wasting your typing...
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:45:22 PM EDT
I think to cut the defense budget by 90% would be absurd. I do think they reason from a valid starting point though. the united states has inadvertantly (and some times purposely) killed millions in the middle east. I know suddam hussein is an @$$hole but thanks to our sanctions in Iraq over 1.5 million Iraqi CIVILIANS have perished. I'm not saying this is a reason to abandon our country but I think much of our foreign policy needs some serious reconsideration.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:45:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/21/2001 8:45:41 PM EDT by LARRYG]
Bee, as I said, your timing is awful. Jack, the First Amendment is not at play here. This is a private board. Not that one can't post what they want, but one can expect responses that may not be pleasant. Besides, if you wish to envoke the First Amendment, I have the right to respond as I choose under said Amendment. Lots of people complain that they don't appreciate some responses since they have First Amendment rights, but they seem to be denying the First to those who respond in a manner that they don't like. Bee, your original post was critical of previous posts. Don't they have First Amendment rights?
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 8:54:37 PM EDT
Sorry, you liberal trolls can whine all you want. Just because you have a right to do something, does not make it the right thing to do. There are thousands of dead Americans lying under mountains of rubble in New York, yet these academic socialist America haters cannot wait til the funerals even start to come out from under their slimy rocks to spew this vitriolic hatred of their own country. Screw them, and screw you Mr. Bee! Why don't you buzz on over to the UNC website, I am sure you can find plenty of like minded fellow travelers over there.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 9:05:17 PM EDT
A CONGREGATION of faithful left-wing fundamentalists descended en masse at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Monday night, to practice one of their most sacred rituals: spewing hatred for America.
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Wow! Them's some messed up folks! ...may they fail miserably.
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 9:16:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cc48510: These Commies should be deported one and all. Especially those comparing this to the Reichstag. For those who don't know they are accusing Bush of this atrocity. They need to be put down permanently. I practically grew up in North Carolina. I spent 3 months every year in the Mountains, where the people would hang traitors like this. We need to finish our job and wipe communism off the face of the earth. If that means NUking Vietnam, China, Laos, then so be it. We need to send troops in and liberate Cuba, then liberate North Carolina from this communist vermon. I especially take offense at the notion that Cubans are terrorists. I knew many damn good Cuban immigrants who came here to seek a better life. Everytime terrorism comes up thos damned commie liberals who get their news from the Granma (Cuuban Communist News) spout off this crap about Cuban-American terrorists. I've even heard CNN quote the Granma Cuban Communist Newspaper. When ourr own media starts quoting Communist propaganda we need to bash some heads.
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in general i agree with you. however it is not our place to erradicate communism from the face of the planet by commiting genocide. communism is criminal because it denies a person a right to their own life and property. a "kill'em all" attitude will not show them the error of their ways. would it not be better to teach them the error of their ways? i prefer this method. if it were not for a good reading selection and my own personal paranoia i might be a socialist. if a U.S. citizens believes in communism i wont support their deportation because of their belief. to do this will violate the first amendment. if they act against American soverignty, betray office or the like; then i say kick'em out. i actually agree with the reichstag scenario in the sense that this occurence could be used to trample fourth amendment rights. this is plausible and no i do not trust George Bush or any other politician for that matter. it is my duty as a concerned citizen not to trust any elected official. [beer]
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 9:28:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Slufstuff: Sorry, you liberal trolls can whine all you want. Just because you have a right to do something, does not make it the right thing to do. There are thousands of dead Americans lying under mountains of rubble in New York, yet these academic socialist America haters cannot wait til the funerals even start to come out from under their slimy rocks to spew this vitriolic hatred of their own country. Screw them, and screw you Mr. Bee! Why don't you buzz on over to the UNC website, I am sure you can find plenty of like minded fellow travelers over there.
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YES!!! what a great idea. let's throw anyperson who says something we disagree with into the communist party. because if the cant agree with us all the time then to the nine hells with'em. you do not know if Bees or jack support marxism. at least Bees was willing to defend his position with some logic. i have debated an assortment of "left" and "right" wingers. i will allways give respect to an individual willing to defend his view with reason. pig headed people exist on both "sides". [:K]
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 9:36:40 PM EDT
Support for Bees Knees and differing opinions. its what America and free speech is all about. Larry G you are a one man majority and TROLL OF THE DAY!
Link Posted: 9/21/2001 11:32:36 PM EDT
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Liberals....Makes me wanta PUKE !!!! As Hank said,"I'd like to spit some Beachnut in that dude's eye, or SHOOT him with my ole 45 !! Love it, or get the hell out !!! But if thou do that which is evil, BE AFRAID: for he beareth not the sword in vain...Romans 13:4 [%(]
Link Posted: 9/22/2001 5:16:03 AM EDT
This is hatespeech, pure and simple. The same kind that they have censored before at our taxpayer funded institutions of higher learning. Unfortunately they are all run by left wing, marxist crackpots (in a kind of like sports drafting academic pool of talent that go from one to the next), who make fat salaries paid for by the very capitalist system they hate. Not to mention raising tuition by twice the yearly inflation rate while decrying the rest of society as "regressive" for doing the same thing. At the UofM here in Michigan there are little brainwashed white girls holding up signs saying that retaliation would be racist. Not immoral or something else... RACIST!
Link Posted: 9/22/2001 6:04:58 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/22/2001 6:23:34 AM EDT
Them traitors ain't Suthern. Not one word about a kegger, not one word about Barbeque, not one word about the girls in short shorts. Bet you them's Yankees, or a bunch of washouts from Oregon, Seattle or Northern Cali. Been there, know the attitude... bad dope or something.
Link Posted: 9/22/2001 7:26:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TheBeesKnees: post an opposing opinion... get personal attacks.[rolleyes] if you are calling me a troll because you think i dont belong here, then i guess you dont know what this BB is. i fully support our 2nd amendment rights... that is the aim of this site, is it not? why should it matter what other views i have? i came here in hopes of some form of political discussion, but all i have recieved so far is intolerance and name calling. maybe this place isnt for me after all. then again, i have only gotten responses from a couple members, maybe im being to quick to judge?
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You have the the right to say anything you like but if you say something or agree w/ something that is outrageous you must expect outrage. Some things cannot be discussed dispassionately. Decent people will not try to see the good side of Nazism. The subject is simply not open for discussion. Comparing Sept. 11th to the Reichstag fire is at least childishly provocative and perhaps treasonous; if the word treason means anything at all any more.
Link Posted: 9/22/2001 8:02:34 AM EDT
[b]YES!!! what a great idea. let's throw anyperson who says something we disagree with into the communist party. because if the cant agree with us all the time then to the nine hells with'em. i have debated an assortment of "left" and "right" wingers. i will allways give respect to an individual willing to defend his view with reason. pig headed people exist on both "sides".[/b]originally posted by libertarian Well, now the Libertarians are coming out. They of the "Let's all throw our votes away voting for a fringe candidate. Bush is the same as Gore, blah blah blah." If you think it is pig-headed to love your country and expect some modicum of decency from extremist citizens during a time of crisis, then I'm guilty as charged. And I will not waste my time civily arguing with socialist extremists. They are enemies of American freedom just as much as the Taliban, and even more dangerous in the long run because they infest academia in this country like termites in rotting wood.
Link Posted: 9/22/2001 9:02:09 AM EDT
If you wish to responsibly exercise your 1st amendment rights by contacting the following faculty members mentioned in the article, here's some information: Charles Kurzman 919-962-1241 kurzman@unc.edu Catherine Lutz 919-962-3353 lutz@email.unc.edu
Link Posted: 9/23/2001 12:06:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Slufstuff: Sorry, you liberal trolls can whine all you want. Just because you have a right to do something, does not make it the right thing to do. There are thousands of dead Americans lying under mountains of rubble in New York, yet these academic socialist America haters cannot wait til the funerals even start to come out from under their slimy rocks to spew this vitriolic hatred of their own country. Screw them, and screw you Mr. Bee! Why don't you buzz on over to the UNC website, I am sure you can find plenty of like minded fellow travelers over there.
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maybe if you understood that those at the UNC werent "haters" of america, nor was anyone trying to justify what happened, just understanding the meaning behind the actions. nobody was saying "down with america" or anything like that. they simply feel that the US government should handle this situation in a much different way than they are. i agree... instead of rushing into war with the first nation the US can associate the attacks with, they should look at why the us was a target in the first place: our foreign policy, horrendous in some cases... especially in the middle east. but instead, we continue to intensify our actions in that region. when will people realize that this is what caused the attack in the first place, and its just a cycle thats been getting worse since the Gulf War, or even the creation of Israel? the terrorists oppose the US for a reason. while this in NO WAY justifies their actions, we as a nation should at least try to understand their point of view instead of provoking them further. violence only brings more violence. and if anyone here thinks that attacking afghanistan or anywhere else will put an end to that, you are horribly wrong. taking out a terrorist cell, or Bin Laden (can anyone say "martyr"?), will only bring a new wave of fanaticism and death from the rest of that organization, which can be found in over 60 nations. what those at the UNC are trying to do is stop this cycle of destruction and PROTECT their nation and the good ideals it was founded on. but instead, theyre labeled as enemies of the very same nation. i hardly see that as hate speech, Sluf.
Link Posted: 9/23/2001 5:58:50 PM EDT
^shut up.
Link Posted: 9/23/2001 6:41:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By grimshaw: Support for Bees Knees and differing opinions. its what America and free speech is all about. Larry G you are a one man majority and TROLL OF THE DAY!
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You are an idiot. What a complete moron. TROLL OF THE DAY, my ass. That's a real good comeback, call me a troll when I point out an obvious one. Apparently you haven't been reading, as I am not alone, thus not a 'majority of one'. While one may have a right to a different opinion, I sure as hell don't have to SUPPORT that outrageous opinion. I may respect his right to free speech, but I also have the same right to respond as I see fit. A lot of you who yell free speech don't practice what you preach. According to you he has a right to espouse his point of view, but those that think it is outrageous aren't allowed to say so. Hypocrite.
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