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6/21/2017 8:25:40 PM
Posted: 9/14/2001 8:08:06 AM EDT
Several times a night I hear someone on CNN or CBS say something like, "We must get used to the idea that we've enjoyed too much freedom and life in America will never be the same". They keep implying that we will surrender some of our liberties to counter this terrorist threat. What on EARTH are they saying? They never specify which liberties they are so eager to surrender, but I'm getting pissed. Has anyone else caught this? Surely that aren't talking about longer lines at airports or searches of our baggage, we're already used to that notion and expect it. They seem to imply deeper, darker things to come.
Link Posted: 9/14/2001 8:10:54 AM EDT
What they really mean to say: Klinton F*CKED our CIA and intelligence gathering agencies for 8 years. He's to blame, but we get to pay for it.
Link Posted: 9/14/2001 8:21:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2001 8:21:37 AM EDT by zazou]
Yep, it bothers the hell out of me. I am truly hoping Bush keeps his word and does not let our liberires be threatened in the result of this. I do worry that Gephardt, etc are going to get some of their Socialistic ideas (National ID) and crap through and call it protection of Liberty. Goddamn the politicians if they use the blood of innocents for their agendas. Zaz
Link Posted: 9/14/2001 8:22:36 AM EDT
Well if slick Willy was still in office he would probably just send a few Billion dollars to the Afghans to say sorry we caused you to do this...........If we ever want to see that freedom again we better stick to our guns and fight back.......[frag]
Link Posted: 9/14/2001 8:53:06 AM EDT
I've been waiting for the inevitable Schumer/Boxer/Kennedy attack on "terror" by calling for more gun control. ANY politician who uses this episode for advancing their personal agenda should be kicked down the Capitol steps!!!
Link Posted: 9/14/2001 8:56:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2001 8:56:08 AM EDT by ARlady]
Originally Posted By zazou: I do worry that Gephardt, etc are going to get some of their Socialistic ideas (National ID) and crap through and call it protection of Liberty. Goddamn the politicians if they use the blood of innocents for their agendas. Zaz
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unfortunately, they will use the blood of innocents. how many have considered tearing up or burning any national ID card should it get to that point? Matt told me last night not to say such things. but i say that we are no longer America at that point, and i'm within my rights, as detailed in the Declaration of Independence, to oppose any tyrannical government and bring about its downfall to re-instate (or create from scracth) a newer, better government that is truly OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, AND BY THE PEOPLE. I REFUSE TO CAVE TO ANY MORE INFRINGEMENTS ON MY LIBERTIES. SECURITY BE DAMNED. I'D RATHER DIE THAN BE A SLAVE.
Link Posted: 9/14/2001 9:01:51 AM EDT
Just a note of quiet moderation to note we are not proposing or soliciting the overthrow of our US government. Thank you.
Link Posted: 9/14/2001 9:06:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Arock: Just a note of quiet moderation to note we are not proposing or soliciting the overthrow of our US government. Thank you.
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see that's just it. i never meant that. however, should it ever come to that, it has ceased being the Government of America, a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. ergo, i would not be committing treason against the United States of America. that entity would have ceased to exist. that's just the way i see it.
Link Posted: 9/14/2001 9:07:08 AM EDT
We need to print and post these everywhere. Wish someone in NY could post these all over the place and maybe a few network cameras will catch them. [img]www.standandfight.com/img/tshirts/large/Franklin.jpg[/img] another variant. [img]www.standandfight.com/img/tshirts/large/Benjamin_Franklin_Series_001.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 9/14/2001 9:12:00 AM EDT
ARLady, I absolutely understand your position. My post is meant to simply clarify your position. Great to be workin' with you. Arock out.
Link Posted: 9/14/2001 9:19:11 AM EDT
Good ole` Ben never got held up trying to board a 767 either!..............
Link Posted: 9/14/2001 9:22:01 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ARlady: see that's just it. i never meant that. however, should it ever come to that, it has ceased being the Government of America, a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. ergo, i would not be committing treason against the United States of America. that entity would have ceased to exist. that's just the way i see it.
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You're not alone. These terrorists want to destroy the freedom and openness America represents. If we let ourselves destroy that, we lose.
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