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Posted: 9/2/2001 2:08:22 PM EDT
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IMI has some that look (and may in fact be) new.
BUT, be warned: If you buy a carbine (or any other semi-auto firearm for that matter) with a receiver made AFTER the ban, you have a POST ban firearm, with all that implies. Stay away from civilian Universal-made carbines. They use non-GI parts, and quality is iffy at best. I don't know your background, and I mean no offense, but IMHO, an M-1 Carbine would be fairly well down on the list of things to buy, IMHO. That said, check out gunshows, the usual websites, SGN, TGL, and, of course, your local gun shops. A website to ask questions and learn about the Carbine: [url]www.jouster.com[/url] Best of luck. |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 2:12:32 PM EDT
[#2]
thanks raf.
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Posted: 9/2/2001 2:15:24 PM EDT
[#3]
YW. BTW, do you know how to sight-in an M-1 Carbine? It's a bit unusual.
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Posted: 9/2/2001 2:19:17 PM EDT
[#4]
nope. I shot one today for the first time and thought it was pretty sweet....it was hitting pretty much dead on at 100 yards.
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Posted: 9/2/2001 2:20:43 PM EDT
[#5]
How about the m1 carbine(m888)from
IAI. [url]http://www.israelarms.com/flash/iai.html[/url] |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 2:27:38 PM EDT
[#6]
It's a handy, reliable gun, with stopping power out to about 150 yds, tho.
Here's the trick: when you get yours, shoot it at 100 yards. See where the bullets hit. If they don't hit at POA at 100 yards, and are hitting low, CAREFULLY file down the front sight little-by-little till it's right on. If it's hitting high, buy a NEW, unmodified GI front sight, and file until it's right on at 100 yds. The reason for this is that during re-building the front sights often got mixed up. They are fun little guns. Use soft-point ammo for serious social occasions. Good luck, again. |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 2:35:39 PM EDT
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raf...just interested what would be on your list of things to buy...before the m1 carbine?
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Posted: 9/2/2001 2:50:08 PM EDT
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Step 1: a good, reliable .308 battle rifle. The STG58A by DSA, sold by FAC comes to mind. M1 Garand from ODCMP at a minimum.
Step 2: A good, reliable service pistol. 9mm minimum, .45ACP good, .40S+W best. Step 3: Some form of AR15 rifle. Step 4: A very accurate, scoped bolt-action rifle, .308 minimum. Step 5: A good shotgun or another AR15 from same mfr as the first one. I would STRONGLY urge you to buy and read "Boston's Gun Bible, by Boston T. Party. [url]www.javelinpress.com[/url]. An EXCELLENT book that aside from what I consider a slight overenthusiasm for Glocks, will give you a PLAN, and likely save you some money to boot. |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:00:44 PM EDT
[#9]
Yup that sounds about right. Looks like I'm right on track but I'm missing a .308 battle rifle......I can't decide which to get and the nice ones cost too much cash.
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:07:30 PM EDT
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FWIW, I'll be buying an STG very soon, and re-configuring my .308 Garand to a Match rifle.
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:07:36 PM EDT
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I built my own.
[img]http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=182940&a=13596304&p=52603833&Sequence=0&res=high[/img] Springfield Armory is selling new forged M-1 Carbine receivers for around $120. Parts kits can be bought for around $250. Spend a little more and get a brand new barrel. Add approximately $75 to have a gunsmith install and headspace the barrel. Mine shoots flawlessly and accuracy is better than any of the WWII carbines I've shot. |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:28:57 PM EDT
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I really like shooting my M1 Carbine. I just got in 500 rounds of Federal from AMMOMAN about 3 weeks ago. Every gun show I go to I pick up 15 and 30 round magazines (USGI) that are brand new. I have some 5 separate contractors so far in the 15 rounders. Plenty of USGI carbines at gun shows of good condition for around $400. One guy at the gun show has a large supply of new to mint condition parts for the USGI one. He even had a new paratrooper stock for $250. I only bought some trigger springs this time.
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:29:13 PM EDT
[#13]
hey raf....I'm a little slow. What's so bad about a post ban m1 carbine
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:30:57 PM EDT
[#14]
Princeton, where didja get your parts kit from?
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:35:13 PM EDT
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Princeton, please read my first post above. RE: new-manufactured receivers. Actually as I understand the 1994 AW Ban the only M-1 Carbines that are actually assault weapons are the ones that had a folding stock prior to the ban. Standard M-1 carbines only had one evil feature, the bayonet lug, so they were never assault weapons as defined by the ban. Putting a folding stock or even a flash hider on a WWII carbine today that didn't have one prior to the ban would be technically making an assault weapon. |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:39:15 PM EDT
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So how about that parts kit eh?
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:40:55 PM EDT
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Princeton, where didja get your parts kit from? I got my kit from Southeast Military Parts. Their web site is at: [url]usgunparts.com[/url] The parts were in very good condition and arrived within one week. |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:44:41 PM EDT
[#18]
Actually, the mag isn't an evil feature at all.
Semi auto rifles that accept detachable mags are allowed one feature to be legal. In the case of the M-1 carbine it would be the bayonet lug/mount. |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:48:21 PM EDT
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Now that I think on it, Princeton, you are correct, I apologize for my mistake.
I guess I am so used to the pistol-grip using up the 1 evil feature clause, that I forgot what the law REALLY says. |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:53:03 PM EDT
[#20]
The price of the parts kit is now 279 + 75 with a new barrel.
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:53:36 PM EDT
[#21]
This works better..
[url]http://www.usgunparts.com/[/url] |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:55:34 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted: Step 1: a good, reliable .308 battle rifle. The STG58A by DSA, sold by FAC comes to mind. M1 Garand from ODCMP at a minimum. Step 2: A good, reliable service pistol. 9mm minimum, .45ACP good, .40S+W best. Step 3: Some form of AR15 rifle. Step 4: A very accurate, scoped bolt-action rifle, .308 minimum. Step 5: A good shotgun or another AR15 from same mfr as the first one. Hey raf, I have the following for your given steps. Am I there? Step 1: 3 M1 Garands so I can 'stack arms' Step 2: at least 1 of each Step 3: several post and pre, all by same mfg. Step 4: Savage 110 FP heavy barrel in .30-06 w/scope .30-06 ammo shared with Garands Savage 12 FV heavy barrel in .22 w/scope .223 ammo shared with AR's Step 5: See step 3, plus preban AR180's, also .223/5.56 Step 6: Had Universal M1 carbine which I traded in on all original Inland. It is sweet but I don't really want to shoot it, because it's all original WWII and in great shape. What would be a good shooter?. What's so good about the soft point .30 Carbine round vs. FMJ? re-configuring my .308 Garand to a Match rifle Blasphemer![:D] tommyt, for your minimum .308 battle rifle, get a Garand and have a Garand and a carbine. You have a battle rifle and a little bit of history with an all GI Garand. |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 3:58:56 PM EDT
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Hmmmmm..., so a new, kit-made carbine is considerably more expensive than a non-collector-grade GI version.
OTOH, it does have a new barrel. |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 4:03:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: Princeton, where didja get your parts kit from? I got my kit from Southeast Military Parts. Their web site is at: [url]usgunparts.com[/url] The parts were in very good condition and arrived within one week. Yes, this is the place that I am talking about. He also sells AR-15 Uppers, parts, etc. His name is Douglas, real nice guy. |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 4:10:59 PM EDT
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LarryG, sounds like you've covered all the bases except the shotgun. Nice collection.
.30 Carbine soft-tip rounds are, by all reports I have read (quite a few), at least an order of magnitude more effective in serious social encounters than FMJ. Compare the .30 Carbine and, say, another pistol round like the .40 S+W. The hollow-point pistol round is vastly more effective than the FMJ. I suggested the Soft point .30 Carbine over hollow point version of same because of finicky feeding of some rifles and hollow point .30 Carbine Ammo. Blasphemer? Maybe, but I left the M1D and H and R in original condition, so I hope I am redeemed. [;)] |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 4:29:27 PM EDT
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I'm certainly not suggesting that building your own is the cheapest way to go. By building my own I learned alot about the M-1 Carbine. I did buy an Inland carbine just prior to building my own for $450 off the SubGuns bulletin board ([url]http://subguns.biggerhammer.net/[/url])
If you just keep looking you could probably find a real nice G.I. M-1 Carbine for around $400-$500. I know a guy I used to work with recently sold his Inland M-1 Carbine for $250 and thought he ripped the buyer off. He figured since he only paid $150 for it he was making out like a bandit. More information can be found at: [url]http://www.gunandknife.com/cgi-bin/forums/m1carbconfig.pl[/url] They even have a for sale section. |
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Posted: 9/2/2001 5:12:54 PM EDT
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Forget all of it......just get a ar10 and get it over with!!!........[:)]
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