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Posted: 8/28/2001 11:50:37 PM EST
Bastards... I really liked this job too. I had always wanted to work for Intel. They extended the guy I was going to replace's contract so I was one of the other contractors to be cut. They said my "performance" wasn't up to par so I was one of the ones that was going to be cut. 2 months, 2 months I worked there and they didn't want to train me. I worked my ass off, coming in early, leaving late reading outdated manuals. Putting up with eyes rolling everytime I asked a question and got a "I am too busy" reply. I commuted for 3 hours each day for this.. I took pride in my job. Only to be laid off because Intel can't sell a warm hand job to an Eskimo. Their shitty stock is a fucking roller coaster and they are too high and mighty to admit AMD is slappin them around like a bitch. How the fuck am I supposed to walk in there and do a job I have never done before without any training? "We will be able to train you once we get the XP drivers out, right now is just a bad time Frank, just do what you can and we will train you later." That is what they kept telling me since the first day. I guess I shoulda sucked dick those two months to be one of the golden reach arounds that didn't get laid off. And I love theses fucking pussies, they didn't even have the nuts to lay me off in person. They call my contracting company to have a "talk" and then security escort me off campus and confiscate my badge. Oh they had the brass to pick up a phone and make a call, but not to do the actual laying off. This was done by the high up asses that I never worked with. The faggots I did work with all disappeared right before I got the call to go see my employer. Fuck Intel. Your Pentium 4 sucks and AMD kicks your 2Ghz ass even at 1.4Ghz. It is no wonder your asses are going under and you are laying off people with actual talent. I don't know what I am going to do... the market was worse than before. I had been out of work for 3 months before I got this gig. I looked for a job on Dice and Monster... holy fuck... I found 1 job opening for Tech support.. a job I'm sure has gotten a million hits already buy Harvard grads stooping to make $12 an hour... Fuck me.......
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 12:03:14 AM EST
I feel your pain brother.
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 12:19:52 AM EST
Originally Posted By FrankTheSpank: Bastards... I really liked this job too. I had always wanted to work for Intel. . . . Fuck me.......
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Not that this is any consolation to you Frank, but yours truly here is waiting to see if he is part of the 10% of the company to be laid off within the next couple weeks! Playing the corporate version of "Survivor" sucks! I am with ya Frank. Chissel
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 12:47:47 AM EST
Too bad you didn't get a chance to activate that "worm".
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 12:48:35 AM EST
Originally Posted By SexualChocolate: I feel your pain brother.
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Is that you Arsenio Hall?
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 1:42:20 AM EST
I have no idea what in the hell I am going to do now. I think the only thing that makes money now is if you have some stupid shit to sell over the net to people. Anyone here still cheering for GATT and NAFTA?
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 4:00:41 AM EST
Originally Posted By Ulysse_Nardin_1846: Too bad you didn't get a chance to activate that "worm".
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I won't tell anyone either dude.
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 4:26:43 AM EST
Sorry to hear about your situation. We are hiring in tech support and customer service, see my post. It ain't no Intel, but it's laid back enough where you can buy some time while looking around.....
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 4:27:20 AM EST
Originally Posted By FrankTheSpank: Bastards... I really liked this job too. I had always wanted to work for Intel.
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At least you know why your co-workers never warmed up to you. Kinda like combat, they didn't want to know the new guy's name.
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 4:55:45 AM EST
This was done by the high up asses that I never worked with. The faggots I did work with all disappeared right before I got the call to go see my employer.
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Frank, that might explain why people were treating you so badly, if they knew you might be laid off, they would avoid you like the plague. I'm sorry to hear about you losing your job, I remember when you posted and was quite happy you had gotten on with Intel. Hang in there man you'll do better.
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 5:01:10 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/29/2001 5:02:32 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/29/2001 6:15:01 AM EST
Frank, I hate to say this, but I used to see this sort of thing happen at my father's company back in the 80's. Whenever a potential layoff period was pending (usually upper management knows about these things for a looooong time before they actually happen), departments would rush out and hire fully qualified people to bump up the number of staff. Then, a layoff is announced at say 10% of the workforce and department heads were then forced to sacrifice a number of employees, and it was _always_ the new hire, even when there were other people not performing their jobs to expectations. It sucks, and you never know when its going to happen.
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 6:20:43 AM EST
That's too bad about the layoff and 2 months isn't long enough to learn a job. They must be laying off more than just you.
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 6:47:30 AM EST
Frank if you keep talking about Intel like this the FBI is going to arrest you thinking you are going to come back and shoot the place up! [uzi]
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 6:56:38 AM EST
Originally Posted By FrankTheSpank: Bastards... I really liked this job too. I had always wanted to work for Intel. They extended the guy I was going to replace's contract so I was one of the other contractors to be cut. They said my "performance" wasn't up to par so I was one of the ones that was going to be cut.
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Frank, I used to work for Intel. It can be a good company if you play the politics correct. Other than playing the politics you get used, chewed, abused, and then tossed out. It may be best you are not working for them. There are other jobs out there that pay more and the stress is less. Believe me I've been there. Just add Intel to your resume and move on.
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 7:14:02 AM EST
Intel is not the best place to work. I should know, I've had 2 different contracting jobs and spent 3 years there as an employee. My last contract ended after 14 months in July so I'm looking also. To really understand what goes on at Intel you need to be an employee. They love to document deficencies on your review like "too easily redirected by his manager", "needs to perform tasks that fit his engineering level" even though that's what my bossed requested I do and my favorite was that my rank among engineers in my group went from the top 1/2 to top 1/3 but my "Trending" measure was "slower". WTF! I found another job and only work there as contractor. Ranking and rating is a total joke. The guy at the top get a raise and the guy at the bottom get's a corrective action plan, no matter what. Sometimes this is only in a group of 6 or 7 people. Andy Grove and Craig Barret are responsible for this. They feel EVERYONE needs a kick in the ass no matter who they are and what they've done. It sucks! Spambo
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 8:15:12 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 9:32:40 AM EST
Thank you satcong for the post, I'll check it out! Thnaks everyone.... It just sucks, I looked hard for this job, I was out of work for 3 months before this and it was really getting to me. Then I work at Intel for 2 months... not enough time to get back on my feet. I would agree too that 2 months is not enough time to learn a job. For general computer stuff I knew it perfect. But this was WHQL testing.. something I have never even heard about until I worked at Intel. They knew this, they looked at my Resume and interviewed me. Stupid cock suckers. This is real bad... I am in a world of shit. I'll probaly have to move out, maybe move in with my mom for awhile... good god... talk about hell. I barely survived my last slam from the job market.. I don't know what I'm gonna do now. I'm so fucked. I have no money and I have a car payment. I am glad I voted for Bush... that $300 couldn't have come at a better time, should be here in a week or so... Whelp... better call unemployment....
Link Posted: 8/29/2001 9:58:49 AM EST
Frank, if we can get you a job in the Pasadena, Sacremento or Roseville or Phoenix call centers, would you come out?
Link Posted: 8/30/2001 10:12:12 AM EST
Sorry sat for takin so long to get back to ya. Damn... Sacramento or Roseville would be perfect! I was commuting from Stockton to Folsom at Intel, Sacramento would be closer, I think Roseville would be a tad closer too. I actually commuted from Stockton to San Jose before this.. that was a 2 and a half hour commute.. ONE WAY! Like I have said before.. I take pride in my work..
Link Posted: 8/30/2001 12:08:16 PM EST
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