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Posted: 8/20/2001 3:29:39 AM EST
Got the home movie system fever, spent an evening at a friends home watching Rules of Engagement on DVD over his system. Made my VHS system look like a kindergarten toy. Any opinions on good DVD players/Surround systems, and later on in the process widescreen televisions. I hate regular TV programs so I am watching movies a lot, either trough movie channels or on video. A lot of movies I love(RoE, the Patriot, StarWars etc etc) kick ass on DVD. So it looks like I'll be spending some money on other projects than my weapons.(got them pretty much covered anyway) Feeling like a kid in a toy store again.... Perhaps my girlfriend is right, men are like little children. Only their toys are more expensive. [:)] Kuiper
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 4:27:04 AM EST
Depend on how much you are willing to spend. The latest craze is the plasma screen which can cost you around 7-10K USD. A top of the line 7:1 Surround is around 3-5K USD. A good DVD player can run around 700 USD. We're talkin along the lines of, Sony flat screen, B&O, Adcom, NAD, Nakamichi etc. However you can get by with a nice Yamaha Dig Surround recvr for about 1K, and a nice Denon DVD for about $400. Polk Audio Speakers for about $800. And a Sony Vega Trinitron 36" for about $1200 to round out your home theater experience. Make sure you get the optical hook ups for recvr to DVD. The sound and pic is a 1000x better than your normal RCA jacks.
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 4:33:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/20/2001 4:33:33 AM EST by Cleatus]
You ARE going to spend several thousand dollars getting everthing you need-so warm up your credit cards! As with all electronics-get the most you can afford. A reasonable main unit would be Sony ES stuff- high quality-with 5 year warranty included. 700-1200 bucks Speakers-best you can afford-Avoid those 'satellite speakers' they just dont have the sound of floor speakers. Get a good, powerfull subwoofer- 12" is a good size to start. Make sure you get a matched set all teh way around mains, center and rears. $1000+ DVD player -get a new 'progressive scan' type you will need it for HDTV applications-and they are not that much more expensive Make sure it has digital 5.1 or 6.1 and DTS decoding $300 TV's -too late-you are out of money. I have a sony 36" wega-that tv is 100x the other tv we have-falt screen and picture are unbeliveable-they have a couple models out-would suggest you splurge and get the 36"HDTV version -2300 bucks Have it delivered though because it weights 218 pounds! Or a couple more thou get a 55-65 " projection tv-just make sure you view the projection tvs from all angles to make sure there are no bright or dark spots. Not to promote sony again-but they have a new HD projection tv out that was really sweet-good from almost any angle and very clear.
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 4:37:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/20/2001 4:34:19 AM EST by lordtrader]
BTW here's my humble system. Its not much cause I only live in a 700sq ft 1bdrm apt., but it does its job 32" Sony Vega trinitron Sony Dolby Digital DA555ES recvr w/ satellite speakers and the sub sitting next to the system Sony DVD DPV-S530D A Sharp VCR (I rarely watch VHS tapes) Dish Network with TIVO. My remote is a touch screen PDA type, its the one sitting at the bottom of the stand there. This is by far the coolest thing I own. Works for my lil bachelor pad [img]http://wsphotofews.excite.com/032/ba/ic/Nr/Mr30570.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 4:54:48 AM EST
I didn't spend too much on mine, maybe $5 or $6k .. Not too bad for the quality of the audio components and a nice 36" TV. Everything is top of the line Sony (not ES.) I'd recommend it to anyone for the price! [img]http://www.interworkssolutions.com/temp/living%20room.jpg[/img] Beind me there are two more speakers identical to the ones up front..
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 4:56:45 AM EST
a subwoofer is a REQUIRED part of the system-get a good one!!!
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 5:25:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/20/2001 5:24:28 AM EST by fight4yourrights]
Avoid Bose, you can do better. Get a Ratshack sound meter to setup the relative speaker levels. Get the DVD calibration disk to correct the color and brightness levels on you TV. They all come screwed up from the factory - blue sells better but isn't correct. Better yet is to spend $350 to get the set professionally calibrated, but I decided not to invest that yet. Check out bipolar speakers - they fill the room better. See Definitive Technologies or Mirage. Stick to a matched set so the soundstage doesn't change pitch or timber as it pans around the room. Denon equipment has been very good to me. Mitsubishi invented the big screen, so they were a natural choice to me. I think I've got about $12,000 into the system, another $2500 in DVD's and cabinets. Worth EVERY penny. It's disappointing to go to theaters now. [url]http://members.home.net/sbritton/home%20theater.htm[/url] [img]http://members.home.net/sbritton/home theater_files/image019.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 6:02:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By fight4yourrights: [img]http://members.home.net/sbritton/home theater_files/image019.jpg[/img]
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Yo!!! That is SWEEETTT!!!! When I get my own pad I'm gonna get me one them HDTV big screen by Toshiba. Those have a nice pic quality. Not the plasma screen quality but good enough for the price.
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 6:10:52 AM EST
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[Last Edit: 8/20/2001 6:15:27 AM EST by fight4yourrights]
Yep, cables can get nuts. There are cables that runs THOUSANDS of dollars each! I started out with Audiquest, but switched to high grade Monster brand cables after reading some testing in Home Theater magazine. Typically $60 to $100 per cable. And LIGHT MANAGEMENT - VIP. I should really paint my wall a light grey next to help control reflected light.
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 6:20:46 AM EST
Monster Cables are my preferences. A good quality(ILink) optical can run you $35 on up depending on the length. Monster will run you around $50 on up, again depending on length.
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 6:22:40 AM EST
Forget the TV, get one of the new digital projectors. Those things are bad ass. I work for Texas Instruments and we have those things all over the place. We use them to watch satallite broadcasts, training films and they are also wired to a few PC's. They are clear as hell and cover an entire wall! Imagine reading ar15.com in supersize and LordTrader could view his porn and the girls could be lifesize on his wall. The possibilities are endless. At about $3000 for the midrange projectors I think they are a steal in the home theater market. Also, these things are really bright, not like a regular projector and viewing with the lights on is perfectly fine. Its that bright. The only reason I don't have one yet is because I don't really have a suitable place for the screen. As soon as I start building my house though, you can bet your ass I will have an entire room designed around a digital projector. Michael
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 6:26:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/20/2001 6:24:58 AM EST by fight4yourrights]
Shop at a quality store. Even if Best Buys seems to have the same model TV as a higher end shop, it's not. The Best Buy model will have cheaper convertors and electronics. Buy you TV for the picture quality and guts. I told the store that I didn't want to pay a dime for audio, since I would be turning off the TV's speakers anyway. Component inputs are the best. S-Video comes next, and standard NTSC hookup comes in last. When I shopped most of my components about 5 years ago, projectors were too expensive to consider. Good quality was $12,000 and you really needed to syncronize 2 of them for adequate brightness. Sounds like they've come down enough to consider now. Get a good screen, they are a whole science unto themselves. Pick up Home Theater magazine. I found them to be the most relevant.
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 6:54:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/20/2001 6:55:55 AM EST by Kuiper]
Nice setups people. The main speakers I have covered, I built two highend Pied Piper open pipe loudspeakers. They will function as my main fronts, good advice on abandoning satelite speakers and choosing good quality floorspeakers. Cables, already covered too(except for the coming surround speakers) Interlinks using 10mm silver Coax cable between video/amp, Cd-player and amp. As far as the receiver/DVD goes, I am currently looking at sony. Will recent Sony's/Pioneers/JVC's play CDR/VCD? Kuiper
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 7:11:53 AM EST
Lots of info at [url]www.hometheaterhifi.com/main.html[/url] I know people don't like satellites, but I think my Cambridge Soundworks speakers are some of the best for the money.
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 7:21:08 AM EST
Your choice of speakers should really depend on the size and composition of the room. If you have a consideraby large open room and made of concrete then you should really get floor speakers. However, if you are in an enclosed space with good wall material to bounce sound from, satellite spkrs are fine. Pair that with a nice sub that has a variable freq and you would be good to go. But always get good quality recvr and speakers. You can't have one without the other.
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 7:56:41 AM EST
For those of us that can't afford to drop the cost of a new Kia on stereo equipment, the Yamaha YHT-23 HT package does a _very nice_ job for a small to medium sized room for a little less than $700. Comes with Yamaha's HTR-5240 receiver, 4 matched satellite speakers, center channel, and a 75W powered subwoofer. Believe it or not the little subwoofer shakes the whole house on 1/3 volume. I would not, however, recommend similar setups by other manufacturers, most lower end receivers do not have discrete circuitry. (Except some Sony's and Kenwoods, the Kenwoods are lacking in the bass department and I just don't think the low end Sony's are worth the $$$, JMHO)
Link Posted: 8/20/2001 8:19:20 AM EST
Good question -- the manual of my Sony DVD player (DVP 850CXP or something like that -- now obsolete, they upgraded the capacity from 200 to 300+1 discs!) says it will not play CDRs or CDRWs. A lot of the higher-end DVD players for some reason are not CDR/CDRW compatible, but the newer players solve this problem. CDR/CDRW capability allows you to play your own audio mixes and your home-made VCD (Video CDs). If you get one that says you cannot play CDR/CDRWs, don't fret -- look up the compatibility list on vcdhelp.com and it will tell you which brand/recording speed will work with your machine. I found that my DVD player works fine using Memorex CDRWs at 8x burn speed. While many people on this thread like Sony receivers, it has been my experience that Sony receivers produce excessive amp hum. I prefer Yamaha amplification instead but keep in mind that perhaps Sony's ES (premium brand) solves the hum problem. My modest HT setup is limited by budget and space constraints, but I find it serves me well. You don't need to spend a ton to get a quality system. [IMG]http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1024860&a=10318614&p=42798369&Sequence=0&res=high[/IMG] Yamaha HTR 5450 receiver: $300 Sony DVP 850CXP 200 disc DVD: $300 Toshiba 32A50 television: $600 Yamaha center speaker: $150 Yamaha bookshelf speakers: $100 JVC stereo VCR: $100 Monster cable throughout. [not pictured] Yamaha SW90 subwoofer: $200 Sony rear surround speakers: $50 [no longer available] Mr. T/BA Barracus action figure :D Justin
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