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Posted: 8/13/2001 9:21:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2001 2:50:19 PM EDT by GoatBoy]
[url]http://ubb.mcuzi.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=2[/url] "Attention McUZI.com'ers- The board is now closed. It's been fun, and you are all are fun people, but this is out of my hands. I will be dedicating my time and financial resources to another firearms related project. We pissed a lot of people off, and gave HANGFIRE a purpose in his otherwise pathetic life (gadlfy@gte.net) See y'all around. McUZI " Remember: HANGFIRE (John W. King) is a LOSER! Want to "contact" him? : ***************** [i]Do not post other peoples contact info[/i]
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 9:33:57 AM EDT
Why so much hate for HANGFIRE?
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 9:40:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By reconxl: Why so much hate for HANGFIRE?
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Apparently McUZI and HANGFIRE don't like each other. I don't know what started it.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 9:45:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2001 10:18:29 AM EDT by EdAvilaSr]
Geez Steyr. That's TAME compared to the pictures of HANGFIRE that they have up over there. How did you get to that page? I clicked on the links from the main [red]LINK TO HOMOSEXUAL PORNO DELETED;and ACCOUNT CLOSED [/red]and I just get the HANGFIRE family picture. (pretty damn nasty . i almost puked)
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 9:53:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SteyrAUG: Apparently McUZI and HANGFIRE don't like each other. I don't know what started it.
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Don't you remember? HANGFIRE posted a bounty for McUZI and contacted the NAACP and FBI because someone registered over on the site with the "HANGFIRE alias" He also made some threats against McUZI and his girlfriend. (and posted his real name and address and phone #) That's just not cool. Hey -- Does anyone know if that picture is real? Is it really Hangfire or did someone "photoshop" it? YUCK!
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:03:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2001 10:01:08 AM EDT by SteyrAUG]
Is that true? Hangfire actually motivated the NAACP & FBI against the a firearm community? Can anyone provide some kind of verification? I don't want to make any judgements until I know the story. Hangfire, tell me it ain't true. Edited to add, that if there actually was Federal involvement that resulted in the closing of the McUZI board, THIS SITE and others were links on McUZI.com. Can someone please provide some actual details on this one? I think this is serious, if true.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:05:14 AM EDT
Good riddance. No tears cried from here.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:10:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By garandman: Good riddance. No tears cried from here.
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Noted. But two things: 1. We might have a residual problem if the Hangfire story is true. and 2. The former members of AK47.net and McUZI.com are now looking for a new cyber home. Some of them, and probably not the ones you would want, will undoubtedly find their way here. Remember this site when AK47.net went down? I understand there are two standards of acceptable post: one for AR15 and one for McUZI but I don't think everyone gets it. Also it was nice to have a "free" forum to discuss any topic. Surely you can understand and appreciate the "freedom" aspect.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:27:54 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:27:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2001 10:23:48 AM EDT by lordtrader]
Hmmm....I wonder how a LORDTRADER.COM go over with the masses [:D]
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:36:07 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:36:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By lordtrader: Hmmm....I wonder how a LORDTRADER.COM go over with the masses [:D]
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It would go over great if it had movies like you & Treetop posted...... Man those were pretty good.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:39:21 AM EDT
That's right, I don't see it as necessarily a good thing. It was a good place for certain types of people to vent, and now they are going to have to look for a new website to troll.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:44:01 AM EDT
I made it out with 5 stars [:)]
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:47:36 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:48:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Gun-fan: It would go over great if it had movies like you & Treetop posted...... Man those were pretty good.
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The videos live my friend. Just visit this site [url]http://www.krinkov.net/forums/index.php[/url] Check out the "East Side" forum. Some reason I don't think any of my threads will be locked there. I think.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:51:58 AM EDT
If, and it is a really big "if", Hangfire did in deed sic the NAACP and FBI on the site then in my mind all other points are moot. Regarless of how one thinks about the former site, it's members or the post there do you want to associate with someone whom, when simply pissed off, would resort to such tactics?
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:52:14 AM EDT
Ed Sr. Quit laughing so hard I can hear you all the way to Illinois.[;D] Really Ed, quit laughing, you're killin me![:D]
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:54:52 AM EDT
HANGFIRE keeps e-mailing me. He wants to know McUZI's name and address again. No kidding ! AND... He even threatened to post photos and addresses of my family members here. I told him (as an independent web hosting provider) that I'd dump the site/account and refund any $$ remaing back to McUZI if HANGFIRE would just stop posting in all CAPITALS here at AR15.com and go away. [8D] [8D]
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:55:07 AM EDT
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted By SteyrAUG: I understand there are two standards of acceptable post: one for AR15 and one for McUZI but I don't think everyone gets it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Those who "get it" shall stay and those who don't ......will not ! ....So let it be written;so let it be done!
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WOW!.....I heard this somewhere before...... Ed = Mose? [:)]
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 10:56:29 AM EDT
Heck of a way to say g'bye! [img]http://64.242.166.128/pics/sunsethill001.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 11:05:10 AM EDT
I'm hearing REAL BAD STUFF from reliable sources by email(it's not Garand_Shooter by the way), in referrence to the HANGFIRE story. I'd really like to know his version.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 11:05:45 AM EDT
OOOHHHH is that a .44 Magnum w/ Holosight you got there or are you just happy to see me? That sure is purty. I want one of then Desert Eagle jobbies.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 11:06:50 AM EDT
Yup... 'Ol HANGFIRE did post that he contacted the FBI and the NAACP about the "racist" content of McUZI.com . (Under the "$$ BOUNTY FOR MCUZI $$" thread) The thread was deleted by Goatboy at the time since there were physical threats from HANGFIRE. AND HANGFIRE posted McUZI's home address and phone #. Great guy, huh?
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 11:08:05 AM EDT
LT: Here are the rest of 'em (at least they used to be there when I stole 'em ) [url]www.sunsethillrange.com/photos.html[/url]
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 11:24:02 AM EDT
Well, unless I hear something damned convincing from him to the contrary I know I have made up my mind about the boy. Think about it people. This is one of your fellow "patriots" that is stopping at nothing to slay one of your own. I don't care how you feel about McUzi, God knows I am no great fan of his either, but this guy would not hesitate to do the same to anyone of you in a heart beat if he were pissed at you. In fact this and some of the other posts I've made here today will probably get me on his shit list. Yo Hangfire, if you need any info about me all you need to do is ask. I'll be more than happy to save you the trouble of looking and provide it for you.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 12:10:46 PM EDT
Fare Thee Well McUzi.Com..... Fare Thee Well Noble Prince..... Embrace The First Amendment And Her Sister, The 2nd, And Slip Thee Into The Darkness And Rest In Peace.... In Some Respects, Ye Were The Best Of Us.... [:o)] [:o)] [:o)]
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 1:04:39 PM EDT
Well it looks like Mcuzi is really done..... It wont be long untill the secret weapon will be needed [img]www.ar15.com/members/albums/SPECTRE%2Fswd1%2Egif[/img]
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 1:15:47 PM EDT
Why so much hate for HANGFIRE?[/url] I think the better question is: why does HANGFIRE have so much hate for McUZI? IMHO it's all about jealousy. HANGFIRE is a attention queen, and so is McUZI (just more successful at it). That explains the all-caps posting, the bold thread titles, and the in-your-face posting style. If you remember when he came to AR15.com, he pissed off just about everyone here. Then McUZI started the whole "I almost had to draw on the guy that stole my crack-ho" thread, and he stole the glory (and attention) away from HF. Ever since that day, he has been on the McUZI's trail. You would think McUZI's 'departure' from this board, and formation of McUZI.com would have made HF a happy man, but instead, he redoubled his efforts at bringing McUZI down, i.e. getting and posting McU's home address here on ar15.com and supposedly calling the BATF, FBI, NAACP, PETA, NASA, Batman etc... Instead the guy was enraged that McU actually had a semi-successful board and an entourage of groupies to boot. Kinda makes you wonder, who are the bad guys? The antis, or the gun owner on a crusade to bring down another over differences of opinion...
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 1:17:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/13/2001 2:19:57 PM EDT by Golgo-13]
Hangfire is an interesting fellow. After he threatened me with an "axehandle session" a few months back, I sent him a private email which he then posted here along with a long-winded typically Hangfiresque spew about how he had NEVER threatened anybody and how he was bravely keeping things out in the open rather than treacherously using private email the way I had. Incidentally, nobody locked his thread for posting my private information. Edited to add the link to that thread. I wonder if his check was good. [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=23463[/url]
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 1:26:23 PM EDT
I wonder if its just a coincidence that this happened a couple days after the arrest of that child pornographer in Texas.Just something to think about.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 1:28:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By garandman: Good riddance. No tears cried from here.
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Why, do you have a problem with independant thought??? Sorry G-man, I like you, but I expect better from you. I understand why you don't want McUZI here, that is obvious due you the conflict between your values (or lack thereof in McU's case). But what's the problem in having their own board to discuss their own issues? Afterall, it keeps the wackos away from ar15.com for a sort time. Did I like McUZI.com? I lurked a bit, and found some interesting stuff, but for the most part I was annoyed and somewhat disturbed by some of the thoughts of members there (some I had grown to trust and like on other boards). But, I don't celebrate in the closing of the board, as it is just another blow to free thought, whether those free thoughts were intelligent or not.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 1:45:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 1:52:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By HKocher:
Originally Posted By garandman: Good riddance. No tears cried from here.
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Why, do you have a problem with independant thought??? Sorry G-man, I like you, but I expect better from you. .
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So, you are saying that my indifference to its demise equates to "having a problem with independent thought?" That somehow by my lack of sorrow that it is now defunct that I support the suppression of free thought? Please. I expect better from you.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 2:33:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By garandman: So, you are saying that my indifference to its demise equates to "having a problem with independent thought?" That somehow by my lack of sorrow that it is now defunct that I support the suppression of free thought? Please. I expect better from you.
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No, I just expect more from a MODERATOR of this board, to be more neutral on issue of a former-member that isn't part of this board anymore. Can you say beating a dead horse? Especially when you had a big part in killing the horse.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 2:50:47 PM EDT
Garandman, DID NOT kill the horse. According to the current scuttlebutt HANGFIRE may have. But I am reserving judgement until he has given his side or the evidence is without querstion. Garandman, has EVERY right to dislike the horse.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 3:17:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 4:29:22 PM EDT
Garandman, DID NOT kill the horse. ..... Garandman, has EVERY right to dislike the horse.
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Correct, but Garandman did have a part in McUZI getting the boot from this board. Again, you are right, Garandman has every right to dislike McUZI, but the guy isn't here anymore to defend himself, and Garandman is a moderator that may or may not have played a role in booting him. I don't know, it just seems a bit like gloating to me...
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer: i'd like to know the truth on hangfires side also. If he did call the naacp or fbi or whoever for something like that. I sure as hell wouldn't trust him here. Problems between them or not. That IS NOT the way to handle it. jmo mike
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To be honest with you, I haven't trusted the guy from day one. I think that anyone who REPEATEDLY and publicly threatens to sue AR15.com members or contacts federales regarding members is NOT a friendly.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 4:40:56 PM EDT
HKocher, you know we're cool with each other. And I really do know what you are saying. But....if you value the "freedom of thought" the McUZI represented, then give Garandman his. The sword cuts both ways. Garandman, moderator or not, has opinions and beliefs. His differ from others, but that has no bearing on anything. The fact that he became a moderator shows that someone values his opinions. Garandman and I differ in many ways, and have had minor scuffles before, but so what. We are both members here and free thinkers DON'T always think alike. His opinions, beliefs and values are of no more value than yours or mine. Freedom is far more important.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 5:25:07 PM EDT
I miss mcuzi.com... Anyone heard from Mcuzi personally? ... Sure wish I had his number, I'd give him a call and wish him good luck. Wasn't he gonna get pictures of Hangfire and post them? [):)] NSF
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 5:32:58 PM EDT
They locked my two threads on McUzi, guess I dont pull enough weight around here.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 5:48:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RBAD: Yup... 'Ol HANGFIRE did post that he contacted the FBI and the NAACP about the "racist" content of McUZI.com . (Under the "$$ BOUNTY FOR MCUZI $$" thread) The thread was deleted by Goatboy at the time since there were physical threats from HANGFIRE. AND HANGFIRE posted McUZI's home address and phone #. Great guy, huh?
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It should be noted that McUzi posted his own address and name several times prior to the blow-up with Hangfire. Then during the fight with Hangfire and after Hangfire posted McUzi's info, McUzi posts that the address was NOT his and the name he used in his profile was also NOT his real name. McUzi then claimed someone else, a roommate?, was responsible for a lot of his (McUzi's) posts. Hangfire claims that porno was posted and sent in his (Hangfire's) name, by McUzi. I don't know all the particulars, but it seems only one side is being taken on this thread. If I remember correctly, Hangfire didn't post McUzi's info until he (Hangfire) did a title search for the address that McUzi posted as his own, and the owner came back as being Sarah Brady. I only got a quick look before the thread was deleted by the mods.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 5:56:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 6:43:26 PM EDT
Hangfire should leave this site. What an evil character. Maybe he will turn me in for posting his name without using ALL CAPITAL LETTERS! I don't care that he is a homosexual. (see the mcuzi.com site -- yuck!) I am just upset that he turns and runs and CRIES to the anti-gun organizations that most of us detest. I highly suggest that all of us post the following after every single Hangfire post: "HANGFIRE ---> GO AWAY!"
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 6:52:03 PM EDT
I will miss McUzi.com.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 7:00:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SingleStacker: Hangfire should leave this site. What an evil character. Maybe he will turn me in for posting his name without using ALL CAPITAL LETTERS! I don't care that he is a homosexual. (see the mcuzi.com site -- yuck!) I am just upset that he turns and runs and CRIES to the anti-gun organizations that most of us detest. I highly suggest that all of us post the following after every single Hangfire post: "HANGFIRE ---> GO AWAY!"
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That isn't Hangfire. That's just another example of why McUzi enrages Hangfire. How would you feel if someone posted a gay porno picture and claimed it was you, Singlestacker? Again, I don't think Hangfire contacted any agency until AFTER porno started being posted and sent as email in his (Hangfire's) name. I don't remember exactly, but some of the porn was supposed to be child porn. Singlestacker, what would you do if somebody started posting and emailing child porn in your name? It's a federal felony.
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 7:12:16 PM EDT
The only allegation of "child porn" came from Hangfire. No one condones here that type of sick behavior. Just as we do not condone the unsafe homosexual activity that Hangfire is participating in. Isn't Johnny King aware of the diseases that can be disseminated through this type of unprotected deviant sexual activity? I am sure that McUZI.com is just displaying his photo as an example of what NOT to do in order to stay disease free. My New Signature: HANGFIRE ----> GO AWAY! (all capitals, just the way he likes it)
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 7:30:18 PM EDT
I know all of the details. Mcuzi did no wrong here. He was constantly harrassed by Hangfire and his little friends. Hangfire is a freaking loser. I like guns. Are you gonna report me to Sarah Brady too? GO AWAY HANGFIRE- WE ALL HATE YOU!
Link Posted: 8/13/2001 7:49:35 PM EDT
Hangfire, calling the FBI is a real cheap trick.
Link Posted: 8/15/2001 5:15:27 AM EDT
I thought it was MM's fault. Took away the site's will to exist.
Link Posted: 8/15/2001 5:58:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By HKocher: No, I just expect more from a MODERATOR of this board, to be more neutral on issue of a former-member that isn't part of this board anymore.
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So, as a moderator of THIS board, I'm supposed to be neutral about NON-members of this board and their endeavors OUTSIDE this board??? OK, I understand now.
Can you say beating a dead horse? Especially when you had a big part in killing the horse.
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EXACTLY WHAT part did I have in its demise?? I NEVER posted in that forum. I visited it MAYBE three times. I have had NO contact, direct or indirect, with McUzi for at least three months (since his departure from this forum) Let me put this as delicately as I can - you've lost your freakin' mind.
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