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Posted: 8/8/2001 3:28:56 AM EST
Mohammed is the twelve year old Palestinian boy that was shot during an armed clash between the Israeli Defense Forces and the Palestinians. While the IDF claimed immediate responsibility for the boy's death, and apologized for the death of the boy and the wounding of his father, upon their subsequent investigation of the shooting, it appears that 'friendly fire' may have actually been the cause. Even more disturbing is the possibility that the 'friendly fire' may have been deliberate. I'm posting this link from worldnetdaily.com, in order for the readers to make up their own minds on this subject - [url]http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=18774[/url] Please read the entire article, it will be worth your time, indeed. Now I know that there are other opinions on this shooting, so please post any links you may find that show the opposing view on this unfortunate shooting. I would be interested in seeing the other side. Although, the 'other side' simply means the liberal media, IMHO. Eric The(Provocateur)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 6:36:34 AM EST
I still can not believe how thorough a brainwash job some people have received at the hands of our government schools. I further have difficulty reconciling how people who enjoy their 2nd ammendment rights can be wise to the media bias toward fire arms (and all other rights for that matter) and swallow the "my child was murdered by war monger Isrealies" vs. the own child martyr crap of the Palestinians on network TV.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 6:52:25 AM EST
[b]here is what REALLY happened!!!!![/b] In a little café just the other side of the border She was just sitting there givin' me looks that made my mouth water So I started walking her way She belonged to that man, José And I knew, yes I knew I should leave When I heard her say, yeah Come a little bit closer You're my kind of man So big and so strong Come a little bit closer I'm all alone And the night is so long So we started to dance In my arms, she felt so inviting That I just couldn't resist Just one little kiss so exciting Then I heard the guitar player say "Vamoose, José's on his way" Then I knew, yes I knew I should run But then I heard her say, yeah Come a little bit closer You're my kind of man So big and so strong Come a little bit closer I'm all alone And the night is so long Then the music stopped When I looked the café was empty Then I heard José say "Man you know you're in trouble plenty" So I dropped my drink from my hand And through the window I ran And as I rode away I could hear her say to José, yeah Come a little bit closer You're my kind of man So big and so strong Come a little bit closer I'm all alone And the night is so long La la-la-la la-la La la-la-la la-la Ho ho la-la La la la-la
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 10:04:28 AM EST
Possible, but unlikely. I think I responded to this on another board, but what's wrong with this picture?
12-year-old Palestinian boy likely 'martyred' by his own people, [b]say Israeli investigators[/b]
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Kinda like:
Little Red Riding Hood likely attacked by own Grandmother, say the Big Bad Wolf.
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I am not positive about this, but I don't think you can be martyred by your own team sacrificing you. I believe it has to be of your own will...ie, suicide bombing.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 10:10:57 AM EST
Post from Chimbarazo -
I am not positive about this, but I don't think you can be martyred by your own team sacrificing you. I believe it has to be of your own will...ie, suicide bombing.
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Yes, ordinarily, in order to be a martyr you must willingly and knowingly give your life for a cause. I'm pretty certain that's why the term is shown in quotation marks in the story. It is apparent that Jamal al-Dura, the father, is looking directly at the camera, or whatever, looking for relief, not martydom for his son! Eric The('IsraelIsGreat'Idiot)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 10:36:51 AM EST
I would be interested in seeing the other side. Although, the 'other side' simply means the liberal media, IMHO.
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Yes, the media may be controled by liberals, but ultimately it is controlled by Jews. And their foremost priority is the protection and preservation of Israel IMHO.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 10:42:25 AM EST
Originally Posted By Chimborazo:
I would be interested in seeing the other side. Although, the 'other side' simply means the liberal media, IMHO.
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Yes, the media may be controled by liberals, but ultimately it is controlled by Jews. And their foremost priority is the protection and preservation of Israel IMHO.
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This anti-semitism is pretty nauseating. Name the Jew that is in charge at ABC, NBC, CNN, FOX, CBS, NY Times, USAToday, any of them. Instead of a blanket 'the press is controlled by Jews', name some names.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 1:31:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By LARRYG: quote]This anti-semitism is pretty nauseating. Name the Jew that is in charge at ABC, NBC, CNN, FOX, CBS, NY Times, USAToday, any of them. Instead of a blanket 'the press is controlled by Jews', name some names.
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The largest media conglomerate today is Walt Disney Company, whose chairman and CEO, Michael Eisner, is a Jew. The Disney Empire, headed by a man described by one media analyst as a "control freak", includes several television production companies (Walt Disney Television, Touchstone Television, Buena Vista Television), its own cable network with 14 million subscribers, and two video production companies. As for feature films, the Walt Disney Picture Group, headed by Joe Roth (also a Jew), includes Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, and Caravan Pictures. Disney also owns Miramax Films, run by the Weinstein brothers. When the Disney Company was run by the Gentile Disney family prior to its takeover by Eisner in 1984, it epitomized wholesome, family entertainment. While it still holds the rights to Snow White, under Eisner, the company has expanded into the production of graphic sex and violence. In addition, it has 225 affiliated stations in the United States and is part owner of several European TV companies. ABC's cable subsidiary, ESPN, is headed by president and CEO Steven Bornstein, a Jew. This corporation also has a controlling share of Lifetime Television and the Arts & Entertainment Network cable companies. ABC Radio Network owns eleven AM and ten FM stations, again in major cities such as New York, Washington, Los Angeles, and has over 3,400 affiliates. Although primarily a telecommunications company, Capital Cities/ABC earned over $1 billion in publishing in 1994. It owns seven daily newspapers, Fairchild Publications, Chilton Publications, and the Diversified Publishing Group. Time Warner, Inc, is the second of the international media leviathans. The chairman of the board and CEO, Gerald Levin, is a Jew. Time Warner's subsidiary HBO is the country's largest pay-TV cable network. Warner Music is by far the world's largest record company, with 50 labels, the biggest of which is Warner Brothers Records, headed by Danny Goldberg. Stuart Hersch is president of Warnervision, Warner Music's video production unit. Goldberg and Hersch are Jews. Warner Music was an early promoter of "gangsta rap." Through its involvement with Interscope Records, it helped popularize a genre whose graphic lyrics explicitly urge Blacks to commit acts of violence against Whites. In addition to cable and music, Time Warner is heavily involved in the production of feature films (Warner Brothers Studio) and publishing. Time Warner's publishing division (editor-in-chief Norman Pearlstine, a Jew) is the largest magazine publisher in the country (Time, Sports Illustrated, People, Fortune).
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 1:39:07 PM EST
When Ted Turner, a Gentile, made a bid to buy CBS in 1985, there was panic in media boardrooms across the nation. Turner made a fortune in advertising and then had built a successful cable-TV news network, CNN. Although Turner employed a number of Jews in key executive positions in CNN and had never taken public positions contrary to Jewish interests, he is a man with a large ego and a strong personality and was regarded by Chairman William Paley (real name Palinsky, a Jew) and the other Jews at CBS as uncontrollable: a loose cannon who might at some time in the future turn against them. Furthermore, Jewish newsman Daniel Schorr, who had worked for Turner, publicly charged that his former boss held a personal dislike for Jews. To block Turner's bid, CBS executives invited billionaire Jewish theater, hotel, insurance, and cigarette magnate Laurence Tisch to launch a "friendly" takeover of the company, and from 1986 till 1995 Tisch was the chairman and CEO of CBS, removing any threat of non-Jewish influence there. Subsequent efforts by Turner to acquire a major network have been obstructed by Levin's Time Warner, which owns nearly 20 percent of CBS stock and has veto power over major deals. Viacom, Inc, headed by Sumner Redstone (born Murray Rothstein), a Jew, is the third largest megamedia corporation in the country, with revenues of over $10 billion a year. Viacom, which produces and distributes TV programs for the three largest networks, owns 12 television stations and 12 radio stations. It produces feature films through Paramount Pictures, headed by Jewess Sherry Lansing. Its publishing division includes Prentice Hall, Simon & Schuster, and Pocket Books. It distributes videos through over 4,000 Blockbuster stores. Viacom's chief claim to fame, however, is as the world's largest provider of cable programming, through its Showtime, MTV, Nickelodeon, and other networks. Since 1989, MTV and Nickelodeon have acquired larger and larger shares of the younger television audience. With the top three, and by far the largest, media companies in the hand of Jews, it is difficult to believe that such an overwhelming degree of control came about without a deliberate, concerted effort on their part. What about the other big media companies? Number four on the list is Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation, which owns Fox Television and 20th Century Fox Films. Murdoch is a Gentile, but Peter Chermin, who heads Murdoch's film studio and also oversees his TV production, is a Jew. Number five is the Japanese Sony Corporation, whose U.S. subsidiary, Sony Corporation of America, is run by Michael Schulhof, a Jew. Alan Levine, another Jew, heads the Sony Pictures division.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 1:47:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2001 1:43:51 PM EST by ARlady]
hey, bratty, where'd you get this information. i'm not doubting its veracity. just curious about the source. also, since i don't know the source or why this was written (am i safe in assuming you aren't the author?), i'm obliged to ask: are these people being labeled Jews because of their last names? or are they for-real, card-carrying, synagogue-attending, faith-practicing Jews? i am well aware that one can be called a Jew from an ethnic point of view and have very little faith/practice in the religion. which side of the coin are we talking about? because if it's the first, then i don't think that the article(?) is any proof at all. that's like saying i'm German because my last name is Schultz. (no, no relation to the guy on Hogan's Heroes [:)] )
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 1:53:18 PM EST
I for one know for a fact Lee Harvy Oswald killed Mohammed al-Dura with an old Italian bolt action rifle.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 1:58:15 PM EST
Most of the television and movie production companies that are not owned by the largest corporations are also controlled by Jews. For example, New World Entertainment, proclaimed by one media analyst as "the premiere independent TV program producer in the United States," is owned by Ronald Perelman, a Jew. The best known of the smaller media companies, Dreamworks SKG, is a strictly kosher affair. Dream Works was formed in 1994 amid great media hype by recording industry mogul David Geffen, former Disney Pictures chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg, and film director Steven Spielberg, all three of whom are Jews. The company produces movies, animated films, television programs, and recorded music. Two other large production companies, MCA and Universal Pictures, are both owned by Seagram Company, Ltd. The president and CEO of Seagram, the liquor giant, is Edgar Bronfman Jr., who is also president of the World Jewish Congress. It is well known that Jews have controlled the production and distribution of films since the inception of the movie industry in the early decades of the 20th century. This is still the case today. Films produced by just the five largest motion picture companies mentioned above--Disney, Warner Brothers, Sony, Paramount (Viacom), and Universal (Seagram)--accounted for 74 per cent of the total box-office receipts for the first eight months of 1995. The big three in television network broadcasting used to be ABC, CBS, and NBC. With the consolidation of the media empires, these three are no longer independent entities. While they were independent, however, each was controlled by a Jew since its inception: ABC by Leonard Goldenson, CBS first by William Paley and then by Lawrence Tisch, and NBC first by David Sarnoff and then by his son Robert. Over periods of several decades, these networks were staffed from top to bottom with Jews, and the essential Jewishness of network television did not change when the networks were absorbed by other corporations. The Jewish presence in television news remains particularly strong. As noted, ABC is part of Eisner's Disney Company, and the executive producers of ABC's news programs are all Jews: Victor Neufeld (20-20), Bob Reichbloom (Good Morning America), and Rick Kaplan (World News Tonight). CBS was recently purchased by Westinghouse Electric Corporation. Nevertheless, the man appointed by Lawrence Tisch, Eric Ober, remains president of CBS News, and Ober is a Jew. At NBC, now owned by General Electric, NBC News president Andrew Lack is a Jew, as are executive producers Jeff Zucker (Today), Jeff Gralnick (NBC Nightly News), and Neal Shapiro (Dateline).
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 1:59:16 PM EST
Originally Posted By ARlady: hey, bratty, where'd you get this information. i'm not doubting its veracity. just curious about the source.
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Hmm.. Sounds like McHatebreed !
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 2:04:15 PM EST
The Print Media After television news, daily newspapers are the most influential information medium in America. Sixty million of them are sold (and presumably read) each day. These millions are divided among some 1,500 different publications. One might conclude that the sheer number of different newspapers across America would provide a safeguard against Jewish control and distortion. However, this is not the case. There is less independence, less competition, and much less representation of our interests than a casual observer would think. The days when most cities and even towns had several independently owned newspapers published by local people with close ties to the community are gone. Today, most "local" newspapers are owned by a rather small number of large companies controlled by executives who live and work hundreds or ever thousands of miles away. The fact is that only about 25 per cent of the country's 1,500 papers are independently owned; the rest belong to multi-newspaper chains. Only a handful are large enough to maintain independent reporting staffs outside their own communities; the rest depend on these few for all of their national and international news. The Newhouse empire of Jewish brothers Samuel and Donald Newhouse provides an example of more than the lack of real competition among America's daily newspapers: it also illustrates the insatiable appetite Jews have shown for all the organs of opinion control on which they could fasten their grip. The Newhouses own 26 daily newspapers, including several large and important ones, such as the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans Times-Picayune; the nation's largest trade book publishing conglomerate, Random House, with all its subsidiaries; Newhouse Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television broadcasting stations and 87 cable-TV systems, including some of the country's largest cable networks; the Sunday supplement Parade, with a circulation of more than 22 million copies per week; some two dozen major magazines, including the New Yorker, Vogue, Madmoiselle, Glamour, Vanity Fair, Bride's, Gentlemen's Quarterly, Self, House & Garden, and all the other magazines of the wholly owned Conde Nast group. This Jewish media empire was founded by the late Samuel Newhouse, an immigrant from Russia. The gobbling up of so many newspapers by the Newhouse family was in large degree made possible by the fact that newspapers are not supported by their subscribers, but by their advertisers. It is advertising revenue--not the small change collected from a newspaper's readers--that largely pays the editor's salary and yields the owner's profit. Whenever the large advertisers in a city choose to favor one newspaper over another with their business, the favored newspaper will flourish while its competitor dies. Since the beginning of the 20th century, when Jewish mercantile power in America became a dominant economic force, there has been a steady rise in the number of American newspapers in Jewish hands, accompanied by a steady decline in the number of competing Gentile newspapers--primarily as a result of selective advertising policies by Jewish merchants.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 2:10:58 PM EST
Originally Posted By RBAD:
Originally Posted By ARlady: hey, bratty, where'd you get this information. i'm not doubting its veracity. just curious about the source.
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Hmm.. Sounds like McHatebreed !
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not sure exactly what you're referring to, but if you doubt my intentions i'll be happy to clear them up for you. first, i don't think that Bratty created those posts out of her arse, so there must be a source. i would like to know what that source is. second, any piece of information by itself can be tossed around for evidence. but its credibility can only be discerned when one knows its source.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 2:20:28 PM EST
Whoops --> I meant that I think she probably got the info over at McXXX.com from a post that HATEBREED made.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 2:45:00 PM EST
Originally Posted By RBAD: Whoops --> I meant that I think she probably got the info over at McXXX.com from a post that HATEBREED made.
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aaaahhhhhh. i thought your comment referred to my post. i didn't even think that you were answering it. duh, jenn. and, i probably would have understood what you meant if i visited that site. but i have a low tolerance for hatemongering and people who don't use their existing brain cells, so i just don't go there.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 2:59:29 PM EST
AR-Lady, you hit the nail right on the head. It's so transparent when people can instantly cut-and-paste anti-jewish, conspiracy info. It means that they keep this stuff at their fingertips, probably reading it over, and over again, seething with anti-semetic rage.... So bratty, what's YOUR jew-hater-info source? Klan? David Duke? American Nazi Party? Do tell.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 3:30:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By Major-Murphy: AR-Lady, you hit the nail right on the head. It's so transparent when people can instantly cut-and-paste anti-jewish, conspiracy info. It means that they keep this stuff at their fingertips, probably reading it over, and over again, seething with anti-semetic rage.... So bratty, what's YOUR jew-hater-info source? Klan? David Duke? American Nazi Party? Do tell.
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i [i]do[/i] think it's a little suspect that she'll post and then not give the source (i think it's obvious she's not the author). i also wonder about her not addressing my question...and now yours, Major. i guess she's posting by the hit-and-run method. Miss bratty, where are you?
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 3:51:20 PM EST
What's the beef with bratty. I think it was an informative article. What are all the insinuations about. Posting what was asked for by LARRYG now makes her a Nazi? If it is the truth so what, nothing is going to change it. What bothers me more is your reactions to a very well written article. This is the internet not a court of law, and kissing up to Jews for what ever reason is phony. If Jesus came down from heaven and said that the article was true, you people would not believe it,that is more troubling to me than her post.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 4:00:00 PM EST
Sarah Brady and HCI could show you some "very well written" articles, and you would dismiss them because of the source. If bratty's source is a "hate-group", then I too dismiss it as biased propaganda. AND we all know that the source of that "article" is biased.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 4:04:24 PM EST
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If Jesus came down from heaven and said that the article was true, you people would not believe it
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Trust me, I'd believe Him, but not anyone who may rave on like they were reading from some Twenty-First Century rendition of [b]The Secret Protocols of the Elders of Zion.[/b] Eric The(TrustMe,I'dBelieveJesus)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 4:04:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By Sixtus: What's the beef with bratty. I think it was an informative article. What are all the insinuations about. Posting what was asked for by LARRYG now makes her a Nazi? If it is the truth so what, nothing is going to change it. What bothers me more is your reactions to a very well written article. This is the internet not a court of law, and kissing up to Jews for what ever reason is phony. If Jesus came down from heaven and said that the article was true, you people would not believe it,that is more troubling to me than her post.
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i kiss up to know one. that should be painfully obvious to several on this board. [:D] the "beef" is nothing more than a request to name the source, whatever it is. i just find it odd that she has not done so yet. and i'm not judging the truthfulness of the article until i know the source. there are also questions that i raised in my first post as to the legitimacy of the conclusions of the article. i don't think anyone called her a Nazi. i'm darn sorry my reactions to delve deeper into an obviously one-sided story bother you. and i've seen plenty of trash and lies that were well written. it certainly doesn't make them truthful. and no one's kissing up to Jews dang it. do you think that everybody who dislikes blatant mean-spiritid anti-Semitism is a brown-noser to Jews? look it wasn't an attack on bratty. some of us just like a little information about something before we pass judgments on its validity/truthfulness. that's all.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 4:21:35 PM EST
This is the internet, no one is forcing you to agree or disagree with the article. In other words if you say so it's kosher. I take all things on the internet with a dump truck full of salt. Her article is just like every other one on the internet, I don't see certified on any post, and if she can or can not come up with the author, it still is the internet...
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 4:28:26 PM EST
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Although the tone is certainly slanted it does seem to be basically correct. They are Jewish but are they practicing Jews? I don't know. There are a few names, such as Sumner Redstone, who I don't know if they are or aren't Jewish. The point is there are a lot of Jews in the entertainment industry but is it some conspiracy? There are lots of Jewish doctors and lawyers, is that a conspiracy? Most of the commedians I see are also Jewish or black, conspiracy? I think there is an influence but I don't know it is anymore than Christians have in the US Government. I just read the article link above and it complains that NPR and The New York Times of having a bias against Israel. So complaints about the media from both sides.
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 5:32:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Sixtus: This is the internet, no one is forcing you to agree or disagree with the article. In other words if you say so it's kosher. I take all things on the internet with a dump truck full of salt. Her article is just like every other one on the internet, I don't see certified on any post, and if she can or can not come up with the author, it still is the internet...
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no kidding no one's forcing me. as far as the internet, no it's not the source, it's the vehicle by which many choose to spread their message. do you take a quote from the Constitution with a grain of salt because you see it on the internet? no. why? because you know the source. the vehicle doesn't change the message. the internet is just another vehicle for information. it has ABSOLUTELY NO bearing on the validity/credibility of the information your reading. she could be TELLING me the information in person, or emailing me, or skywriting it and i still would like to know the author/source because her method of transmission says absolutely nothing about credibility or truthfulness of the message. [b]which is why i would like to know the [size=6]SOURCE[/size=6] of the information.[/b] as i said before, i wasn't doubting the truthfulness of the statements. but i am going to have less faith in them if i find out that the Grand Dragon (or whatever he's called) of the KKK is the author. if she can't come up with an author that's a whole different ball game, friend. because not only do i begin to doubt the truthfulness of the information, but i begin to have an intense distrust for the messenger. i'm not picking on her...yet. [;)]
Link Posted: 8/8/2001 5:51:37 PM EST
Ummmm....am I the only one that doesn't give a shit who killed this kid Jews or Arabs??? We shouldn't believe anything that comes out of the west bank in terms of news right now. Until the war is over, we'll never be told the truth on any of this.
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