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Posted: 8/1/2001 10:50:31 AM EST
i have to say the chevy 350, been around since the dinosaurs, been put in every car/truck that gmc, chevy, and a few others have made opinions?
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 11:34:33 AM EST
Some of my top picks... - chevy 350 - Chevy 327 - Chrysler slant 6 - VW air-cooled
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 11:49:39 AM EST
My personal favorites are _________________________________ Mazda Twin Turbo Rotary smooth, hi-horse power, reliable....gotta love it _________________________________ Cadilac Northstar V-8 The engine in my kit car, realiable, high horsepower, good fuel mileage. [rail]
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 12:01:10 PM EST
Hemi 427 - this engine is still the basis for what the NHRA guys use today. GM LS1 (347) - Small block perfection!
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 12:08:05 PM EST
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......302 CHEVY(ala-Z28)=GIANT KILLER...[heavy].....................................................................................(also-HEMI KILLER)....[:)]
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 12:27:59 PM EST
Chevy LT1 and LS1 Have a LT1 in a 96 Impalla SS. It flies for a four door family car.
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 12:31:47 PM EST
For stock power- Big Block 427, Corvette vintage. The Hemi nightmare. What are ya gonna put this motor in?
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 12:38:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By Nekkid80: For stock power- Big Block 427, Corvette vintage. The Hemi nightmare. What are ya gonna put this motor in?
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1966 corvette convertible......425/427.......factory side pipes.....factory knock offs....m22.....373 no-slip 12 bolt...........[smoke]....marina blue/marina blue interior.........[:)]
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 12:42:44 PM EST
a minor ammendment to previous posts... Chevy LS-6 small block perfection ! :)
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 12:43:04 PM EST
I agree with black. the 302 chevy 68 69 was a very under rated engine. at 6000 r.p.m. this motor could produce 425 poneys
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 12:43:47 PM EST
Merlin 540 crate motor Motown 427 Small block-yes small block Ice
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 12:48:02 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 12:50:50 PM EST
The good old hey 350ci is the motor most poeple learn on ,hot rod with and run the death. It just may be the most used motor in America. The 350ci is not realy the motor for me (not any more) but it is one that will not go away any time soon. Love it or hate it, it may very well be the best all round motor. The next car I rod out will have a ZZ502ciRam jet in it,it's just so easy to just put the damn thing in and poof you have well over 500hp. and it's all OE so you will not need to mess with it for so time. A very good lil. motor is a 4.3L(262ci for us Americans) V6. it's a very good motor for light stuff like S-10s and I have even seen a guy put one in a old V6 Camaro that had a 3.4l in it. He got 390hp out of it and ran a 1/4mil. in the low 12s
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 12:51:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By anothergene: No complaints on my 200 cu. in. ford 6. With well over 200,000 miles on it all I ever had to do to it was 1 fuel pump, 1 water pump, 1 carb. Never change the oil, just add when it knocks...I may have to change the oil filter soon, its getting rusty. But the classics like the 289, 283, and the slant 6 are for durability. For go-fast 429 is boss!
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.............[spank]..............
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 12:52:11 PM EST
Rolls-Royce Merlin. Hey, you didn't specify autos. Actually, I really like the Navistar diesel in my Ford truck. Pulls stumps and gets 18 mpg. If I had to go gas I'd opt for the 360 hp/327 w/ Rochester fuel injection offered in the early 60's vettes. Had a '62 with one that HOWLED!! CB
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 12:54:19 PM EST
O-CRAP I forgot the LS6( Corvette ZO6) and LT5Corvette ZR1) Better have your NOS on[;D]
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 1:34:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By Claybuster: Rolls-Royce Merlin. Hey, you didn't specify autos. Actually, I really like the Navistar diesel in my Ford truck. Pulls stumps and gets 18 mpg. If I had to go gas I'd opt for the 360 hp/327 w/ Rochester fuel injection offered in the early 60's vettes. Had a '62 with one that HOWLED!! CB
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Yeah!! Nothing like 510+ lb-ft of torque :)
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 2:54:33 PM EST
350 Chevy can be the only wise choice.
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 2:58:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By CalGat: Hemi 427 - this engine is still the basis for what the NHRA guys use today. GM LS1 (347) - Small block perfection!
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Your Hemi must have grown a cube overnight. Mine was a 426.
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 3:03:13 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 3:11:16 PM EST
Pontiac Ram Air IV. Or Ram Air V, only 5 were made. There is only one car, a 69GTO with a Ram Air V. It is bad ass. The Ram Air V was a prototype engine that was scrapped. Well some employees of GM snuck it out of the trash. Some say that the Buick GSX with a Stage 1 was the fastest/quickest production muscle car. But that is another topic.
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 3:38:54 PM EST
Chevy 350 is a classic But my 2.8L V-6 has 180K on it and still running strong. As for trucks..... I love a inline Cat.
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 3:41:35 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 3:50:32 PM EST
For a small block the 350 chevy-tons of options big block-Will have to go with the ford 429 from the 68-72 era they are pretty undestructable and are strong.make good power with the right parts.(yes i am a chevy guy the 454 is awsome but is not as bullet proof but can make more hp easier.)
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 3:54:26 PM EST
Guys, Pretty hard to beat the small block chevy, radical or tame. I speak from experience, I've had most of them 283, 302, 307, 327 & 350 in big and small cars. I presently have a 59 El Camino with a built 327 (estimated 375 hp) 4sp, 4.11. I wouldn't sell the Buick 3.8L too short though my 91 Reatta gets me there and back. Wife has an 01 Bonneville same engine. My 5.56 cents worth, Doug
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 4:04:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By Armed Scientist: My personal favorites are _________________________________ Mazda Twin Turbo Rotary smooth, hi-horse power, reliable....gotta love it
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I agree with this. Been driving rotaries since 75. But, just like the 'best AR' threads, it's all a matter of personal preference.
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 4:07:02 PM EST
It didn't have the most power, but for long life and trouble free operation, 318 Chrysler
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 4:11:47 PM EST
id have to say the old chevy LS7- all alumanium big block, oh ya i think chevy is going to start makeing a crate motor, i saw one at a NHRA national event, i REALY WANT ONE DAMNIT
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 4:14:47 PM EST
Ferrari 512. 'nuff said. Lotus 910. Porsche Flat 6 (Preferably Carrera) ...and of course, Ford 351 Cleveland 4. ...did I mention the Chevy 350? Lots of American heavy metal fans here, not much "yer-a-peein" interest! ??? Don't even THINK about adding Japanese machines to this list! FOR SHAME! ~smuggley
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 4:22:10 PM EST
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Japanese V-8? LOL . .Pushrod V-8 nope. Funky OHC for the IRL racers.
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 4:24:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By Mach1: Some of my top picks... - chevy 350 - Chevy 327 - Chrysler slant 6 - VW air-cooled
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Chrysler slant 6 = Damn near indestructable. Strong engines. In high school had a 78 Plymouth Volare that got the dog crap beat out of it. Damn thing is still running somewhere in my home town today. LOL
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 4:27:46 PM EST
I had a new '69 GTO Judge with a RAIV motor. The one car I wish I had back. It was number 366 out of the Atlanta factory, one of the first 500 made to qualify for NASCAR. The first 500 had RAIII and RAIV's. If Bill France Sr. had let it run with the RAV as planned it would have been a great competitor. Remember Pontiac ruled NASCAR in the early 60's with Fireball Roberts and Banjo Matthews. Anyway Bill Sr. wouldn't let it run although he let Chrysler run the hemi in mid-size bodies. We did lots of things to the Judge, 480 cubes, road-race chassis etc. She ruled old Hwy. 2222 in Austin. Ah, so long ago.
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 4:29:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Nekkid80: Japanese V-8? LOL
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They do exist. Toyota has one in a pickup and either the Lexus or Infiniti has one as well. Don't know how good they are, but they are out there.
Originally posted by smuggley: Don't even THINK about adding Japanese machines to this list! FOR SHAME!
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I did, so there[;D]. My rotaries are fast. See my post.
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 4:47:42 PM EST
Originally Posted By CalGat: Hemi 427 - this engine is still the basis for what the NHRA guys use today. GM LS1 (347) - Small block perfection!
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Thats [B]426[/b] HEMI... Now don't mis-spell my name again [spank]... Add the HEMI, Slant-6, 340, 360, 383, 400, 440 to the list too!!!
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 4:59:50 PM EST
Ford 289 and 302. C'mon Ford guys. Where ya at? The 302H.O. in 1985-94 Mustangs are darn near indestructable and make great power from simple bolt-ons. Best bang for the buck.
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 5:04:32 PM EST
From the 60s and 70s: Oldsmobile "Rocket 350". Smooth, powerful and very reliable.
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 5:06:39 PM EST
How about the Ford 427 Super Cobra Jet!! [beer]
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 5:51:11 PM EST
"They do exist. Toyota has one in a pickup and either the Lexus or Infiniti has one as well. Don't know how good they are, but they are out there." yep, they are and it's sad to. I think the Toyota V-8 is 4.0L if so thats crap my S-10 has a 4.3L V-6. And the Toyota has a buch of over hand cam crap on it[:(] Some poeple (non hot roders) may think the Japs have some good cars but as for trucks ............well next time I pull out a full size Toyota with my lil. bity S-10 I'll post a pic.
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 6:09:15 PM EST
I have a car with a GM 301...it performs well but it is supposed to be a poor engine (and mine is blowing back oil with only 170K on the engine). Surprised no one mentioned the Subaru pancake engine. The 1.8 can probably go 300k without a rebuild. GunLvr
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 6:20:24 PM EST
OK, just to be different Toyota 22RE and AMC 258. BMB
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 6:26:16 PM EST
HighlandMac, I was wondering if anyone was gonna mention the Cobra Jets. My god I've seen pictures of those things being installed while on the assembly line, compared to the car and the people putting the thing into the car THAT IS ONE MASSIVE ENGINE! How many Cobra Jets were there? A 428 and 429? Not entirely up to speed on the CobraJet makes but have read a little about them and it seems that they have a following(within respective car nut groups) similar to Hemis. And I'm just curious, because somebody here has got to know, but what in god's name do they use as a basis when building the massive 10-13 liter drag racing engines? Are those current production limited run blocks? I've heard mention of a Donovon(or something like that) block and was wondering about that, 13 liters is what? 750+ cubes?
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 6:29:02 PM EST
I have the Cummins turbo diesel in my PU truck. 8000 lb 4X4 vehicle getting over 20 mpg's. Theyre easily hopped up to 400 HP with bolt on's. I know of someone doing 620+ hp and he never had the heads off!! Last new car was a Buick Grand National. That little turbo 6 would go. 12 sec commuter/sleeper Eric
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 6:30:14 PM EST
*Best* is a subjective term, and wide open for interpretation. I would say the best vehicle engine I have ever owned is a Ford Powerstroke 7.3 Liter Turbo Diesel. This sucker has POWER, gets great gas mileage, is reliable, can't hardly be flooded, and is very low maintenance. Strong horsepower and very high torque...OH YEAH. Did I forget to mention chipping this motor? Yeah, I've seen a 2001 Ford Excursion with Powerstroke chipped SMOKE a tricked-out late model Camaro in a road drag...it was close, but the Camaro never could get even with that 9,000 pound BEAST. I love my diesel...but changing the oil is pricey.
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 6:41:48 PM EST
Ok. I'll chime in just for the hell of it. Personally I lean towards the Pontiacs, but my vote would have to go to the small-block/350 Chevy. As said before this engine has gone in everything from race cars to boats to buses. No engine is as versatile as the SBC. It covers all areas of the power spectrum. From 150hp workhorse to 500hp+ race monster. No other engine has been used as much for so many different jobs. As far as performance goes, I'd be willing to bet all the engines listed above, at one time or another, has been bested at the race track by a small-block Chevy.[:)]
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 6:47:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CalGat: Hemi 427 - this engine is still the basis for what the NHRA guys use today.
Gotta love the Hemi. If I were to say the motor i currently have is the best, it would be the 2.5 liter-4cylinder I have in my S10
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 7:09:26 PM EST
Originally Posted By 300 One Shot: I agree with black. the 302 chevy 68 69 was a very under rated engine. at 6000 r.p.m. this motor could produce 425 poneys
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Yea but how much tourqe? poneys aint shit without tourqe. 383 is better!
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 7:13:02 PM EST
Anything by Cummins. Those 5.9 turbo diesels even keep their oil clean. But my #1 engine award has to go to the GSXR 1100. Maintenance intervals as frequent as rest stops, but what an engine...
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 7:46:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By smuggley: Ferrari 512. 'nuff said. Lotus 910. Porsche Flat 6 (Preferably Carrera) ...and of course, Ford 351 Cleveland 4. ...did I mention the Chevy 350? Lots of American heavy metal fans here, not much "yer-a-peein" interest! ??? Don't even THINK about adding Japanese machines to this list! FOR SHAME! ~smuggley
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What about the 1100bhp flat twelve used in Porsche's 917-30 that propelled Mark Donohue to the Can Am championship in 1973 [:D] Those yer-a-peein's also ran around road courses in F1 cars with 1.5L turbo V-6's running about 4+BAR (58psi)& generating 1000-1200bhp in the late 80's & early 90's. Those where 1200lb cars too! Sadly F1 has been emasculated since then [:(]
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 8:01:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TeamFerret: Pontiac Ram Air IV. Or Ram Air V, only 5 were made. There is only one car, a 69GTO with a Ram Air V. It is bad ass. The Ram Air V was a prototype engine that was scrapped. Well some employees of GM snuck it out of the trash. Some say that the Buick GSX with a Stage 1 was the fastest/quickest production muscle car. But that is another topic.
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Wow! I thought I was into weird MuscleCar trivia. I concur. I remember reading this, too. And, I'm a Pontiac enthusiast. For the record, put me in the Pontiac camp. How 'bout the old [i]421 Tri-Power[/i] for low-end torque and balls-to-the-wall screaming carburetors?!!! I had a Ricky Ram-Air V T-shirt in my younger, skinnier days...with the little guy waving out of the scoop on an Orbit Orange '69 GTO Judge.
Link Posted: 8/1/2001 8:17:58 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/2/2001 4:02:31 AM EST
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orginally posted by Uglygun:
How many Cobra Jets were there? A 428 and 429? Not entirely up to speed on the CobraJet makes but have read a little about them and it seems that they have a following(within respective car nut groups) similar to Hemis
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The cobrajet name first came out on the 68 1/2 428 c.i.mustangs during the winternationals(anyone remember the Georgia shaker?) and cleaned up that season in NHRA. They were different from previous 428s mainly in the heads and manifolds and were Fords attempt at a performance engine that would be more streetable than the awesome 427. In 69 you had the cobrajet Mustangs, cougars, cyclones and Torinios, the dreaded "R" cars. In 1970 the Torinos/cyclones got the new 429 cobra jet and the mustangs got the same motor in 1971. There was also a 351 cobra jet engine in 71 or 72? but it was nothing special. The super cobrajet was basically dragpac options with the 429SCJ getting a better intake and Ford-holley vs. spreadbore carb. Numberwise, you could probally not have too hard a time finding a 69CJ mustang or torino. 70- 71 mustang would be the hardest. 70 429CJ torinos were common. What I would like to find is a 429SCJ Cyclone spoiler. I would rate the Ford 427s along with the Hemis unless you go up to the pro classes. Stock, superstock it is a close match and 427 Hi-risers and tunnelports just plain kick ass. For a while I thought the Boss429 engine would have made a bigger splash but it seems to have fizzledAnd
I'm just curious, because somebody here has got to know, but what in god's name do they use as a basis when building the massive 10-13 liter drag racing engines? Are those current production limited run blocks? I've heard mention of a Donovon(or something like that) block and was wondering about that, 13 liters is what? 750+ cubes?
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They used beefed up blocks and get a lot of extra cubes by increasing the stroke. Bore x stroke equals cubic inch. I saw a guy that had a 543ci 460 in a 57 ford truck. Would carry the front end about twenty feet. If you really had the bucks you get get a mercedes SL600 V-12, pay this company $200,000 and get back a 7 liter 600h.p. engine, Thats what I plan to do when I win the lotto.
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