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Posted: 7/25/2001 3:34:22 PM EDT
and how many grains in a gram?
And one more Q?. I know that +p means a hotter or faster load but  why the p, what does it mean exactly and what the diff. between +p and +p+.
Thanks.
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 3:39:36 PM EDT
[#1]
Grains are some leftover from the english system, 7000 per pound.

There are 15.43 grains per gram.

+p+ is a hotter load than +p, but I don't know if there are any standards on what constitutes a +p vs a +p+ load.
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 3:44:15 PM EDT
[#2]
P is for SAAMI pressure ratings. +P would be a higher pressure round and +P+ would be even higher than the +P. You would have to check with someone more current on pressure readings and SAAMI to find out how much higher. Bottom line is more velocity for a given cartridge with a given weight.
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 4:16:06 PM EDT
[#3]
Because the unit named gram didn't exist when we started measuring-out black powder.
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 4:26:03 PM EDT
[#4]
plus a grain is easer to mesure

ie hmm i need .09 grams of poweder vs x grains
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 6:37:50 PM EDT
[#5]
My rather foggy recollection is that there are SAAMI standards for +P cartridges while +P+ (which was originally termed ā€œ++Pā€) simply means the round exceeds all SAAMI standards.  

In theory, +P+ is typically limited to law enforcement agencies that use it only in specific firearms that can handle the extra pressure.
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 6:57:27 PM EDT
[#6]
Originally Posted By Zoom Wilson:
Because the unit named gram didn't exist when we started measuring-out black powder.
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Exactly right.  This is why we still use the English word "Gauge" instead of centimeter/inch/caliber for shotguns, because of what's inside the shell.  Good call, Zoom.

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