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3/20/2017 5:03:23 PM
Posted: 7/24/2001 5:12:49 AM EDT
This just in from the JPFO... thought you all might be interested... ALERT: Catch Them In A Whopping Big Lie -- U.N. Style Have you got a friend or relative who thinks maybe the Million Misguided Moms had some valid points to make ... or maybe they had their "hearts in the right place"? Here is a quick "gotcha" you can use. It is a quote directly from Mary Leigh Blek, representative of the Millon Mom March organization, when she spoke last week at the United Nations "Conference on the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in All its Aspects." Ms. Blek said: "The gun lobby has been talking for 40 minutes. During that time, 40 people have died from the use of small arms and light weapons in this country. That figure, not the statement of those representatives, is further proof that this country is at war." Do the math: 1 person per minute x 60 minutes per hour x 24 hours per day x 365 days = 525,600 people per year. Fact is, misuse of firearms in homicide, suicide and accidents, accounted for a total of 35,673 deaths in 1997. Less half of these deaths were homicides. Source: National Safety Council, Injury Facts: 2000 Edition, at 10, 117. (http://www.gunowners.org/fs0101.htm) The MMM representative, Ms. Blek, attempted to mislead the world conference by overstating the count of homicides by *2600* percent. Even counting the accidents and suicides in her favor, Ms. Blek exaggerated by *1400* percent. This error was not a minor goof or a decimal point shift problem. Such an outright misstatement of facts (made in writing, when the undisputed truth is known) must be a deliberate lie. The MMM counts on newsmedia and other uninformed people to accept the quoted statistics without checking -- most people naturally assume that "nobody would lie publicly about something so easy to verify." Use this fact with those folks who have been believing the MMM to be "a group of women just trying to protect their children from harm." We can't speak for all the members, but the leadership is willing to lie grossly to a high-profile world conference to further their anti-self defense agenda. Now you have hard proof ... in their own words.
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 5:18:07 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 5:35:37 AM EDT
Reminds me of an old joke: Three people are interviewing for a job: an accountant, an economist, and a statistician. The accountant goes in first and is asked "What is one plus one?" The accountant brings out the ledgers, works on some spreadsheets, and after furiously working with a calculator looks up and replies "Two". Same question is posed to the economist. The economist prompts goes through his models, looks at the reference information, and replies "Two". Finally, the same question is asked of the statistician. The statistician opens his notebook, does the calculations, looks up at the interviewer and responds "What do you want it to equal". Just another reason why I do not trust statistics.
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 6:06:03 AM EDT
They're saying these things to elicit an emotional response from people. They're looking for an immediate, knee jerk reaction. Confronting them with facts won't change anything. They're not interested in facts that don't promote their agenda. The agenda is more important than anything else. Any number of people can be sacrificed for the good of the agenda. They can take the decrease in violent crime that comes with shall issue CCW laws and spin them to look like an effect of some gun laws. Truth is their enemy. Facts are their enemy. Look at some of the writings of Joseph Goebbels. The guy was a genius - it was just too bad that his genius could only be used for evil, never for good. He was exactly right on the nature of propaganda and it's truly amazing to see how many people in this country today are screaming the same rhetoric that Goebbels and others were screaming in the 30's.
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 6:20:17 AM EDT
Yeah...we know. It would seem to be just a bit hypocritical of them wouldn't it. BTW Scipio, how is your work on the legislative proposal to regulate computer games involving the use of firearms coming along? Semper Fi
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 6:41:04 AM EDT
haha... yeah Dpeacher...I'll never forget you either. The research is fine. I'm finding plenty of legal data that will act as an obstacle to the legislation... IT won't be easy for him to pass if he tries.
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 7:05:03 AM EDT
Originaly posted by Scipio:
haha... yeah Dpeacher...I'll never forget you either. The research is fine. I'm finding plenty of legal data that will act as an obstacle to the legislation... IT won't be easy for him to pass if he tries.
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So you are finding obsticales to put in the way? [b]That is truely OUTSTANDING![/b] It would seem you do have a Soul after all. If you are sincere, then let me be the first to thank you! Folks, this is the kind of action we need from the legal jockies. Semper FI
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