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Posted: 7/19/2001 6:45:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/19/2001 6:44:40 PM EDT by LARRYG]
I just read this at [url]http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=401213&nav=0hBE [/url] It seems to indicate that 28 states got together and signed a bill granting reciprocity on CCW licenses. At [url]http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=403018&nav=0hBB2f2H Ray [/url] there is this list
Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas Connecticut (Limited) Florida Georgia Idaho Indiana Kentucky Louisiana Massachusetts Michigan Mississippi Montana New Hampshire North Dakota Oklahoma Oregon (Limited) Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont (No license required) Virginia West Virginia Wyoming
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Has anyone heard anything official on this. This is a TV station saying all this, but they could be wrong. This is too good to be true. Kind of sucks with all the different states I have gotten carry licenses in, but this is still great if it is true.
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 6:49:00 PM EDT
It's a major step forward if it is true.
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 6:52:03 PM EDT
Can't confirm, but the last I heard Arkansas was'nt too keen on Louisiana's CCW, was'nt stringent enough for them I guess. I hope this is true though. Now if we could get MO added to the list, we'd be going places!
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 6:54:57 PM EDT
You notice that NY, NJ, and Kali aren't on there. Gee, what a surprise.
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 7:00:37 PM EDT
I doubt you'll ever see those hotbeds of socialism added to the list.
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 7:03:40 PM EDT
North carolina sucks. They won't honor any other states CCW. grrrrrrrr[:(!]
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 7:05:49 PM EDT
No NV either.
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 7:06:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hg112: North carolina sucks. They won't honor any other states CCW. grrrrrrrr[:(!]
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I guess I expected better from NC, them being a Southern state.
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 7:08:37 PM EDT
You are right about NY,NJ,Kali and any other place of the same. But you can get a non resident Florida and to this day it is confirmed to be good in 17 states and for the non resident it is good for 15 states. So Florida is on that list and if this is true it might be good for 28 states. Don't trust the report verify everything. Good luck.
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 7:12:54 PM EDT
Can a CCW be gotten out of state? I mean getting one from the states on the list and it being honored in the other 27 states. Right now I just have an NC CCW. It is very inconvieient since I live only 15 minutes from SC.
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 7:14:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By imposter: No NV either.
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Nevada passed a law this year that would allow anyone from out of state to obtain a non-resident CCW here. Better than nothing, and all you Kalis could come here and get one.
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 7:24:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hg112: Can a CCW be gotten out of state? I mean getting one from the states on the list and it being honored in the other 27 states. Right now I just have an NC CCW. It is very inconvieient since I live only 15 minutes from SC.
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This may change some of the non-res licenses as they won't be needed as much. However, your best bet, being in NC, is to get a Florida License. Go to [url]www.packing.org[/url], click on Florida, and it will give you the info to get a Florida license. I did, they are very easy to work with. I am glad that S.C. is on the list. I live right across the river from there and have always had to stash my pistol when I cross over to S.C.
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 7:42:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 5:32:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Sweep: Friggin NC! What's their problem? Only state that borders GA that I travel to frequently. Fl is the 2nd State I travel to the most and they signed one with GA quite awhile back. [img]http://www.ncsg.org/topohat-small.jpg[/img]
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Sweep, what part of Jawja are you in?
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 5:46:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 6:05:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GI Brat: Well I guess the Texas Department of Public Safety needs to update their web site. [url]http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/reciprocity.htm[/url] GIB [sniper]
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Like I said, I read the report, but doubt it's accuracy. Again, this would be too good to be true. Maybe TX is going to update the website until closer to the Sept 1 date, if this is true.
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 6:18:01 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 6:20:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GI Brat: Let's keep our fingers crossed that this will happen. GIB [sniper]
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I meant to call the Georgia AG's office today and ask them about it. However, I am getting old and senile, so I forgot.
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 6:21:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2001 6:20:07 PM EDT by Jack-B-Nymble]
Originally Posted By hg112: Can a CCW be gotten out of state? I mean getting one from the states on the list and it being honored in the other 27 states. Right now I just have an NC CCW. It is very inconvieient since I live only 15 minutes from SC.
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You can get a FL CCW, but as to reciprocity being granted by the other states on the list, I do not know. This is what FL has to say about non-resident CCWs from other states and reciprocity. [b]Florida law will honor ONLY those out of state licenses issued to a non-resident by his or her state of residence. EXAMPLE: If a resident of New York possesses a license issued in New Hampshire, that resident cannot carry a concealed weapon/firearm in Florida, (unless, of course, he possesses or obtains a Florida license.)[/b] [url]licgweb.dos.state.fl.us/news/concealed_carry.html[/url] MA being on that list REALLY surprises me, makes me doubt it. Alabama being on there is great. They currently do not accept FL CCW, which sucks, them being neighbors and all.
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 6:27:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By David M:
Originally Posted By hg112: Can a CCW be gotten out of state? I mean getting one from the states on the list and it being honored in the other 27 states. Right now I just have an NC CCW. It is very inconvieient since I live only 15 minutes from SC.
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You can get a FL CCW, but as to reciprocity being granted by the other states on the list, I do not know. This is what FL has to say about non-resident CCWs from other states and reciprocity. [b]Florida law will honor ONLY those out of state licenses issued to a non-resident by his or her state of residence. EXAMPLE: If a resident of New York possesses a license issued in New Hampshire, that resident cannot carry a concealed weapon/firearm in Florida, (unless, of course, he possesses or obtains a Florida license.)[/b] [url]licgweb.dos.state.fl.us/news/concealed_carry.html[/url] MA being on that list REALLY surprises me, makes me doubt it. Alabama being on there is great. They currently do not accept FL CCW, which sucks, them being neighbors and all.
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What's a kicker about here is that many states accept FL non-res permits, but FL doesn't accept anyone's non-res permits except, of course, their own.
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 6:49:55 PM EDT
Anybody got a confirmation on this yet? Floridas kinda weird, it took forever to get reciprocity between FL and AR.
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 6:53:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By CIB: Anybody got a confirmation on this yet? Floridas kinda weird, it took forever to get reciprocity between FL and AR.
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I will try to find out from Georgia AG on Monday.
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 7:01:15 PM EDT
I'll be looking for it Larry, thanks.
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 12:54:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By CIB: I'll be looking for it Larry, thanks.
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I orginally called them on Monday and they said they were going to research it. I gave them the web address and all that. I just got off the phone with them and they say they are still digging in. It almost sounds encouraging, since they did not refect it out of hand.
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 1:00:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/25/2001 12:57:17 PM EDT by ECS]
Originally Posted By LARRY G:
Originally Posted By CIB: I'll be looking for it Larry, thanks.
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I orginally called them on Monday and they said they were going to research it. I gave them the web address and all that. I just got off the phone with them and they say they are still digging in. It almost sounds encouraging, since they did not refect it out of hand.
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Larry please keep us informed if you can. I got my CCW here in the Old Dominion. Didn't see NC on the list though, gonna be hard to get down to FL while packin'.
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 1:12:51 PM EDT
ECS, will do!
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 1:20:57 PM EDT
What ever happened t the "full Faith and Credit" of these United States? We shouldn't need laws like this.
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 1:27:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hielo: What ever happened t the "full Faith and Credit" of these United States? We shouldn't need laws like this.
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You may be right, but at least this is a start. You're just depressed because NY is not on the list.
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 2:06:34 PM EDT
and then there's [b]the rest of the story![/b] Folks, this doesn't mean poop, unless you're in Alabama or one of the states that extends reciprocity to everyone else's CCP's (eg. Kentucky). All it means is that Alabama is now [b]allowed[/b]to enter into agreements with all of those states to request reciprocity. Previously they did not extend any [b]offer[/b] of reciprocity to anyone. Any of those states that want reciprocity with Alabama can have it. That agreement does [b]not[/b] mean that all of those states [b]will[/b] have reciprocity with Alabama. An example would be my home state of Virginia. It's on the list, but it will not allow AL licensees to carry in Virginia, because by our law, to get reciprocity, your state has to have requirements as stringent as ours. Alabama has almost no requirements for CC, so they will not get reciprocity In summary, unless your state allows Alabama residents to carry in your state, you will [b]not[/b] be able to carry in Alabama. This article is somewhat misleading, but when you read the actual law that was written up, you'll see the light. Anyway, check the actual law, and you'll see what I mean. Meanwhile, keep pushing for additional concealed carry!!!
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 8:06:42 PM EDT
Seeing South Carolina on that list really makes me wish that we were a shall issue state. Well, SC is a shall issue state by law, but the state police (SLED) intentionally doesn't issue permits. I've been waiting on mine since April. They won't even honor me with a denial, so I have something to appeal. They just take (steal) the $50, and never do their legally required job. They won't take the payment as a check or credit. I guess that's there's no paper trail for the money. Out of a group of people I took a CCW class with, 9 of us traded e-mail addresses. So, far only one of us has been granted a permit. The one guy only got a permit, because he worked for the coroner's office in Columbia. At least the CCW instructor was honest. He gave us a chance before the class started to get our deposit back after he admitted that the we probably wouldn't be able to get the permit. Because I don't know any judges, politicians, high-level LEO's, etc., it doesn't look like I will ever be granted a permit.
Link Posted: 7/31/2001 7:28:37 AM EDT
Well, after talking to Alabama and Georgia AG's offices, this story of a 28 state pact is not true. Go to this address to find out who Alabama has reciprocity with: [url]http://www.ago.state.al.us/ag_items.cfm?Issue=64[/url] Currently it is: FL, ID, KY, MI, MS, and ND.
Link Posted: 7/31/2001 12:07:09 PM EDT
Article IV, united States Constitution: Section 1. Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.... I carry in NV, CA or where ever I go. I get caught, oh well. Take my ass to jail. If my driver's license is valid and my marriage license is valid, then my CCW is too. D.
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