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3/20/2017 5:03:23 PM
Posted: 7/19/2001 4:02:25 PM EDT
This really burn my ass! For all you Vietnam Vets out there, get your BP meds ready! Mine shot up to level stratosphere when I read this! Pass it on. Maybe somehow that slug will get it! I need your help! Here's to you Hanoi Slut: [-!-] *********************************************­*** Somehow we must stop this Bitch from becoming anything more than a traitor! Whether or not you believed in the war, this is the story of an American's reprehensible actions towards other Americans who were ordered to serve and did serve. McCain has "forgiven" her, more in the spirit of making peace with another human being. He would probably not support this award...... Pass it on if you agree... ************************* Has THAT much time past? Have Americans forgotten? Read this (its signed at the bottom): REMEMBER, SHE WAS KNOWN TO US ALL AS - "HANOI JANE" Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the ''100 Great Women of the Century.'' Unfortunately many have forgotten, and still countless others have never known, how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. Part of my conviction comes from personal exposure to those who suffered her attentions. The first part of this is from a McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantom pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison -- the ''Hanoi Hilton.'' Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American ''Peace Activist'' the ''lenient and humane treatment'' he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the ''Hilton'' -- the first three of which he was ''missing in action.'' His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned / fed / clothed routine in preparation for a ''peace delegation'' visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: ''Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?'' and ''Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?'' Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge . . . and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 4:04:17 PM EDT
Hanoi Jane-Part 2 continued from original post: I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a black box in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's ''war criminals.'' When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as ''humane and lenient.'' Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of ''100 Years of Great Women.'' Lest we forget . . . ''100 years of great women'' should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. Charles (Skip) Klingman Asst. Professor of Music Southwestern Oklahoma State University Weatherford, OK 73096 (580) 774-3219 FAX: (580) 774-3795 If having Jane Fonda named one of the woman of the century bothers you as much as it does me, then mail this to everyone on your list.
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 4:20:47 PM EDT
(sigh) Look, I dislike the b*tch as much as anybody, but this story is an urban legend. See [url]http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399.htm[/url] There are statement by the men mentioned in the story. Please read it. Let's not keep spreading falsehood around. It makes her look like a victim, not a victimizer.
Link Posted: 7/19/2001 4:28:11 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 4:46:37 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 5:06:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By KBaker: (sigh) Look, I dislike the b*tch as much as anybody, but this story is an urban legend. See [url]http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399.htm[/url] There are statement by the men mentioned in the story. Please read it. Let's not keep spreading falsehood around. It makes her look like a victim, not a victimizer.
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She is still a traitor even if it did happen 30 year's ago. once a traitor, always a traitor.
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 6:32:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MG_ME: She is still a traitor even if it did happen 30 year's ago. once a traitor, always a traitor.
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Look, that's the point. What she did was bad enough, but what this story accuses her of is far worse than what she actually did, and it is totally false. Now, who looks worse? Hanoi Jane, or the people who believe and keep spreading this story? Is she a traitor? Yes. Did she do what this story accuses her of? No. I have no problem with spreading the truth, but spreading falsehood makes us no better than Handgun Control, and I refuse to be associated with people like that.
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 10:39:17 AM EDT
Unlike most "squids" I spent almost 15 months as a river rat in Vietnam and came out with 2 Purple Hearts, the last one almost killed me. Out of an entire crew, I was the sole survivor. A very close friend of mine spend 5 years as a POW and WITNESSED what that bitch did. I appreciate your concern and understand that it COULD be embellished. However, the site you refer to has also been identified by many sources as grossly "stretching" the truth on many topics while dimissing other articles "legend". Could this be the case with this story. I spoke to my friend about this prior to showing him the article and funny how it matched up almost 100%! I belive him before some site that seems to dedicate it's existance to either stretching the truth or dismissing truth as mere fantasy. Remember, this woman accepted Christ as her personal saviour but when she was recently interviewed, she never once mentioned her "conversion" and spoke only of how wonderful she is and how she is supporting some sick cause that her and most of these Hollywood perverts seem magically attracted to. No sir, I'll stick with the story, comdemn her for what she did, and pray ferverently for my brothers and sisters from all walks of life and service who have served their country. For my Marine comrades "SEMPER FI"! G.A. Frank RMCS, USN(ret)
Link Posted: 7/20/2001 11:26:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By progun: Unlike most "squids" I spent almost 15 months as a river rat in Vietnam and came out with 2 Purple Hearts, the last one almost killed me. Out of an entire crew, I was the sole survivor. A very close friend of mine spend 5 years as a POW and WITNESSED what that bitch did. I appreciate your concern and understand that it COULD be embellished. However, the site you refer to has also been identified by many sources as grossly "stretching" the truth on many topics while dimissing other articles "legend". Could this be the case with this story. I spoke to my friend about this prior to showing him the article and funny how it matched up almost 100%! I belive him before some site that seems to dedicate it's existance to either stretching the truth or dismissing truth as mere fantasy. Remember, this woman accepted Christ as her personal saviour but when she was recently interviewed, she never once mentioned her "conversion" and spoke only of how wonderful she is and how she is supporting some sick cause that her and most of these Hollywood perverts seem magically attracted to. No sir, I'll stick with the story, comdemn her for what she did, and pray ferverently for my brothers and sisters from all walks of life and service who have served their country. For my Marine comrades "SEMPER FI"! G.A. Frank RMCS, USN(ret)
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BRAVO ZULU, shipmate! FMCDH Semper Fidelis Jarhead out. ------------------ "Laddy, without war we'd all be swinging in the fucking trees. It's God's own university and anyone who says different is a self-deluding fairy." --Doc McLeod, “In Pharoah’s Army,” by Tobias Wolff
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