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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:06:04 PM EDT
[#1]
5.11 is a term used in climbing, Royal Robbins was a climber that branched into making clothing and gear.
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:07:15 PM EDT
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Just to clarify, you realize that 5.11 is a line of clothing by Royal Robbins, correct? Good stuff too.
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:10:21 PM EDT
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7.11 was already taken.
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:13:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:13:42 PM EDT
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Well there ya go. |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:13:56 PM EDT
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I'm glad someone asked the question. I've oft wondered what 5.11 meant; I thought it had something to do with police or military jargon...
So if it relates to climbing, can someone explain its meaning? |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:14:56 PM EDT
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Is that the official gear worn by slurpee slingers? |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:15:32 PM EDT
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A lot of what is being sold as "5.11" isn't made by Royal Robbins, or at all climbing oriented. This place 5.11 Gearhas a 5.11 Tactical Reflective Safety Vest for sale. Boots, vests, too. What did/does the term mean in climbing? |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:16:35 PM EDT
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5:11.... Is that an hr after you get high?
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:18:37 PM EDT
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5.11 is a very difficult rock climb.
5.6 is an easy climb |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:18:52 PM EDT
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We used to get stoned at 7:14... A long time ago. |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:19:23 PM EDT
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Thanks. Larry |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:21:38 PM EDT
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I thought DF and I had the better answers.
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:22:36 PM EDT
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511 is the number for road conditions here.
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:27:22 PM EDT
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Exactly......it's a rock climbing degree of difficulty. Bomber |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:28:04 PM EDT
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Anyone else read that as "three eleven, four eleven, and nine one one."? How silly. |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:35:23 PM EDT
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what the hell is 311
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:36:52 PM EDT
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If you look at the little hiker logo, you'll see that the clothing gets it's roots from the outdoor granola scene. I wonder if the designer is thrilled about a bunch of Cops and Armed commando's sporting his duds? Or like any other liberal, he is more than willing to sell out his beliefs for profit! |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:38:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:48:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:50:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:53:19 PM EDT
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211 is "Community Information" here.... (how to be a mentor, where AA is, etc. etc.) No 311 yet that I know of. Just 211, 511 and 911 |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 5:59:36 PM EDT
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Not quite, but close. 
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Posted: 12/28/2004 6:02:47 PM EDT
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FIXED IT! |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 6:14:08 PM EDT
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5.0 to 5.4
There are two hand- and two footholds for every move; the holds become progressively smaller as the number increases. 5.5 to 5.6 The two hand- and two footholds are there, obvious to the experienced, but not necessarily so to the beginner. 5.7 The move is missing one hand- or foothold. 5.8 The move is missing two holds of the four, or missing only one but is very strenuous. 5.9 The move has only one reasonable hold which may be for either a foot or a hand. 5.10 No hand- or footholds. The choices are to pretend a hold is there, pray a lot, or go home. 5.11 After thorough inspection you conclude this move is obviously impossible; however, occasionally someone actually accomplishes it. Since there is nothing for a handhold, grab it with both hands. 5.12 The surface is as smooth as glass and vertical. No one has really ever made this move, although a few claim they have. 5.13 This is identical to 5.12 except it is located under overhanging rock. Ratings are established on lead; the follower has a somewhat easier climb. |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 6:18:27 PM EDT
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Thank goodness, I'm glad somebody else here realized that all the uber-tactical 5.11 pants were originally rock-climbing pants.
Royal Robins also wrote some seminal books on rock climbing, in addition to being a pioneer. |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 6:28:34 PM EDT
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Who wrote that crap? People have climber 5.14b's 
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Posted: 12/28/2004 6:49:16 PM EDT
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I think it's a joke, most of the easy 12's I have been on have prety good sized holds, you just happen to be climbing on the roof the whole time.
 It's been a while since I climbed but I think Chris Sharma and a couple of others have pushed it into the 5.15 range. Charlie |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 8:50:30 PM EDT
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Last I heard people were grading things 5.14d .. have they named something a .15 yet??? (although after a certain point it [the minutae] just becomes slightly absurd) |
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Posted: 12/28/2004 9:23:10 PM EDT
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Back in the old days, when Robbins was a climber, the hardest grade given to a climb was 5.10. It was a closed scale. So, 5.11 was kinda like Nigel's amp...better than everything else.
Now, 5.11 is pretty mellow by most standards. As climber's started to really get better, the scale needed to be opened and currently it tops out at about 5.15a or b. The letters refer to finer gradients in difficulty that are used on the 'higher' end routes (starting at 5.10) and go a, b, c, d and then the next number. The whole thing is pretty subjective and frustrating to alot of people; it's hard to attach a single number to a climb that covers alot of different types of moves and angles. Currently, the 'hardest' routes are graded 5.15. There are a few touted to be this grade, but 'Realization' established by Chris Sharma is currently laying some heavy smackdown on the rest of the world. This route took Chris a coupla seasons to complete and had been bitchslapping top climbers for about 8yrs before it was done. Also, Fred Rhouling's (FRA) route 'Akira' hasn't been done again despite much initial criticism and doubt of it's difficulty.  Chris Sharma on 'Realization' This route is over 150' long and overhangs by about 30-40' in that height. 
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Posted: 12/28/2004 9:35:20 PM EDT
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Yup Class 4 is hiking and class 5 is climbing. For Ice climbing it is WI 1-6 IIRC
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Posted: 12/28/2004 9:36:32 PM EDT
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I went to private school (yes I am fucked up and require counseling) in the town where Royal Robbins set up shop. they were a very quick bike ride away and I used to buy pants and shirts from them. They had awesome khaki's and button down shirts. At the time the place was the size of the 7-11's some of you have mentioned! You can imagine my surprise 20 years later at the 5.11 phenom!
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