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Posted: 6/14/2001 9:28:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2001 9:26:45 AM EST by AR_in_the_woods]
Dear Rest of the USA: America has engaged in some finger wagging lately because California doesn't have enough electricity to meet its needs. The rest of the country (including George W. Bush's energy secretary Spencer Abraham, who wants Californians to suffer through blackouts as justification for drilling for oil in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge) seems to be just fine with letting Californians dangle in the breeze without enough power to meet their needs. They laugh at Californians' frivolity. Well, everybody. Here's how it really is: California ranks 48th in the nation in power consumed per person. California grows more than half the nation's fruit, nuts and vegetables. We're keeping them. We need something to eat when the power goes out. We grow 99 percent or more of the nation's almonds, artichokes, dates, figs, kiwifruit, olives, persimmons, pistachios, prunes, raisins and walnuts. Hope you won't miss them. California is the nation's number one dairy state. We're keeping our dairy products. We'll need plenty of fresh ones since our refrigerators can't be relied upon. Got milk? We Californians are gonna keep all our high-tech software in state. Silicon Valley is ours, after all. Without enough electricity, which you're apparently keeping for yourselves, we just plain don't have enough software to spare. We're keeping all our airplanes. California builds a good percentage of the commercial airliners available to fly you people to where you want to go. When yours wear out, you'd better hope Boeing's Washington plant can keep you supplied. There isn't enough electricity here to allow us to export any more planes than we need ourselves. And while we're at it, we're keeping all our high-tech aerospace stuff, too, like the sophisticated weapons systems that let you sleep at night, not worried you might wake up under the rule of some foreign kook. Oh, yeah, and if you want to make a long-distance call, remember where the satellite components and tracking systems come from. Maybe you could get back in the habit of writing letters. Want to see a blockbuster movie this weekend? Come to California. We make them here. Since we'll now have to make them with our own electricity, we're keeping them. Even if we shot them somewhere else, the labs, printing facilities, editing facilities, and sound facilities are all here. Want some nice domestic wine? We produce over 17 million gallons per year. We'll need all of it to drown our sorrows when we think about the fact that no matter how many California products we export to make the rest of America's lives better, America can't see its way clear to help us out with a little electricity. You can no longer have any of our wine. You all complain that we don't build enough power plants. Well, you don't grow enough food, write enough software, make enough movies, build enough airplanes and defense systems or make enough wine. This is your last warning, America. Lighten (us) up before it's too late. Love, The Californians
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 9:31:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2001 9:37:26 AM EST by Paul]
Build a big fricking fence around your sh!thole and see if we miss you. Good riddance. Cleaned up the language in a terse reply - Paul
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 9:32:05 AM EST
Oh, dont worry. Big brother is coming to save you! Maybe you guys should be blaming your elected officials and not the rest of the country?
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 9:34:21 AM EST
don't you guys grow 90% of all liberals too?
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 9:34:34 AM EST
Build some F'ing powerlines and we'll sell you all the power ya want. Stop hugging your trees and cut a few down to run power lines.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 9:37:57 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 9:39:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2001 9:38:32 AM EST by Paul]
Originally Posted By Boomer: Build a big fricking fence around your sh!thole and see if we miss you. Good riddance.
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Well said! [beer] Dittos from above - Paul
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 9:41:40 AM EST
dates, kiwifruit, almonds, wine, olives, hollywood movies, milk. I can do without. if some can't they can just get them from any of the other places they're grown or made. some say a comet will fall from the sky, followed by meteor showers and tidal waves followed by faultlines who cannot sit still followed by millions of dumbfounded dipsh!ts some say the end is near.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 9:49:14 AM EST
Paul, I did a quick search before I posted and nothing came up. I wouldn't have posted it if I had known it was a previously discussed topic. To the rest of you. I got a kick out of this and figured I'd share it with you. I knew it would get some responses. BTW, I believe in personal resposibility at all levels including the government. The state of kalifornia made a huge mistake a few years back regarding electrical generation. Those decisions have now bite them in the ass. I do not believe that anyone should be forced to help us out. I was born here 40 years ago. I love this state. I love the geography and many of the people. BUT, I'll be the first to admit that there are alot of people in this state that are terribly misguided. I wonder how many of them came from elsewhere...
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 9:53:07 AM EST
some say a comet will fall from the sky, followed by meteor showers and tidal waves followed by faultlines who cannot sit still followed by millions of dumbfounded dipsh!ts some say the end is near.
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and here i thought that I was the only follower of Brother Maynard on this site!!!
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 9:56:18 AM EST
Bye. Take Alec Baldwin with you.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 9:56:42 AM EST
Originally Posted By AR in the woods: ...alot of people in this state that are terribly misguided. I wonder how many of them came from elsewhere...
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I can't speak for California, but a lot a terribly misguided people have invaded my state from "elsewhere", too. Funny how most of the license plates on their vehicles are from California. I think they are bred for export down there. Like I (or Paul) said, build a big fricking fence...
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 10:04:38 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 10:04:52 AM EST
I REALLY like the fence idea. If Kalifornia doesn't have the power to erect a fence, I'm sure the rest of the country would chip in.... tehehe
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 10:06:59 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 10:20:08 AM EST
AR in woods- STOP STOP STOP, you're scaring me. You are correct about the amount of produce grown in Calif. but everything doesn't shut down over some minor 1.5hr blacks. Davis knew about the black out issue 1 year ago in SF when they were experencing blackouts. He knew about the problem but did nothing to resolve it. Similar problem in NY with blackouts, but instead they started building new small power generators, and the following year was fine. The cost of power sold to Calif is over the daily spot market, required during the MULTIPLE deregulation bills passed years ago. This is the most costly method for purchasing power. The socialist-democrats, years ago during the boom market, had this scheme to remove all power stations in Calif (reduce smog), and then have neighboring states feed power to the beast.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 10:24:50 AM EST
How much food & wine would Kali produce if we shut off the Colorado river and send the water to New Mexico and let them farm? Last time I checked, Boeing was in Washington, not California.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 10:25:43 AM EST
Originally Posted By AR in the woods: Dear Rest of the USA: California grows more than half the nation's fruit, nuts and vegetables.
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Fruit - Elton John Nut - Alec Baldwin Vegetable - Julia Roberts
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 10:35:56 AM EST
Originally Posted By erickm: some say a comet will fall from the sky, followed by meteor showers and tidal waves followed by faultlines who cannot sit still followed by millions of dumbfounded dipsh!ts some say the end is near.
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I can't believe somebody beat me to a TOOL quote. This site rules! P.S. AR in theWoods; if all the f**kin hippies had built some power plants in the last 15 years, you'd have some juice. Who gives a shit if you're 48th in per person consumtiom, there are too many of y'all at the tit and you need more supply. Don't blame us because your state sucks and we hold CA accountable for your lameness.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 10:40:18 AM EST
You misspelled a word, you said figs when I'm sure you meant fags[;D]
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 10:54:39 AM EST
[i]"California grows more than half the nation's fruits, nuts"[/i] Hoople, I believe that this responds to your comment.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 10:55:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2001 11:16:07 AM EST by Keebler the Elf]
I've said it once before and I'll say it again... give Kali to the Navy, that would solve all the problems and only let select few move out(that is if there still is any Republicans/Conservatives living there). As for all the fruits and stuff I am also sure that Kali is the main consumer of those products and for the businesses... who says they can't move and relocate? If they were smart they would, prolly be cheaper on them.[rocket]
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 11:04:21 AM EST
To think the rest of the country couldn't make it without CA is a joke. I'm ready to forget about it now, you elected the fruit's and nut's with all the do good feelings. [smoke]
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 11:09:19 AM EST
AR great facts some of the other dipshits should check their facts before spouting off the way they do like the fact that about 40% of the residents in kali have moved here in the last 10 years !!!!
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 11:27:25 AM EST
Ahemm just a friendly reminder.... there are some red blooded AMERICANS living in this shit hole.... please deliver some notice befor tuning the state over to the navy :) I would be glad to clear some trees for power lines... just got my chain saw back this morning! Don't you guy go starting any fence building... unless I get a key to the godamn gate. You cant trap me here with all them fruits and nuts. Soon as my mother in law kicks off I'm outa here ...... then you can do what you want with it, OK. As long as we undestand one another......
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 11:32:21 AM EST
I know several good Republican(not to be confused with "moderate conservatives") gun owners in kommefornia. And beleve you me,they are fighting the lib bastards who were elected by other slimey socialist lib SOBs like Alec(Col Jimmy Dolittle-God he must be spinning in his grave!!)Baldwin. It's easy to write off the left coast,but remember,Al Whore got most of his votes from L.A. and San Fagcisco. So lets evac our allies from those stinking s*itholes and build a fence around those lib dives and support our brethren who are fighting for liberty. [sniper]
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 11:32:53 AM EST
I'm sorry BigMac, but you are a loyal Patriot trapped behind enemy lines, and we can't let you escape. I'm in the same boat out here in Maryland. It's our duty to STAND and fight. Be the thorn in their backsides. Be the enemy w/in their camp. Prepare for battle, brother. It may be coming soon! (almost a shame Gore didn't manage to steal the election)
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 11:44:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2001 11:44:59 AM EST by gus]
"Dear Rest of the USA: California ranks 48th in the nation in power consumed per person." So buy some more electric cars and catch up for crying out loud! "California grows more than half the nation's fruit, nuts and vegetables. We're keeping them. We need something to eat when the power goes out. We grow 99 percent or more of the nation's almonds, artichokes, dates, figs, kiwifruit, olives, persimmons, pistachios, prunes, raisins and walnuts. Hope you won't miss them." Won't miss'em a bit. Artichokes.... YUK! "California is the nation's number one dairy state. We're keeping our dairy products. We'll need plenty of fresh ones since our refrigerators can't be relied upon. Got milk?" Yep - I live in Pa. NEXT DOOR to a dairy farm. Ours is better too! "We Californians are gonna keep all our high-tech software in state. Silicon Valley is ours, after all. Without enough electricity, which you're apparently keeping for yourselves, we just plain don't have enough software to spare." No problem - we'll just pirate it off the net like always. Will you miss the net when you don't have electricity?? "We're keeping all our airplanes. California builds a good percentage of the commercial airliners available to fly you people to where you want to go." Fine - try and build'em without power. I'm sure there are plenty of states that will welcome the fleeing industrial refugees you haven't thought of.... "And while we're at it, we're keeping all our high-tech aerospace stuff, too, like the sophisticated weapons systems that let you sleep at night, not worried you might wake up under the rule of some foreign kook." Your crappy aerospace junk does a lot less to help me sleep than my AR15 does!! "Oh, yeah, and if you want to make a long-distance call, remember where the satellite components and tracking systems come from. Maybe you could get back in the habit of writing letters." As an engineer for the major telecom company in the USA, I can tell you satellites for long distance are obsolete - how much digital fiber optic equipment does Kali make?? NONE! "Want to see a blockbuster movie this weekend? Come to California. We make them here." Reason enough to let you rot. The movie/TV industry had done more harm than good. Besides, I have DirecTV. "You all complain that we don't build enough power plants. Well, you don't grow enough food, write enough software, make enough movies, build enough airplanes and defense systems or make enough wine." Sounds like Kali is the only one complaining! We're just taking bets when the whole stinking sh*thole will slide into the ocean. You guys do make boats there, right? Try to with no power! "This is your last warning, America. Lighten (us) up before it's too late. Love, The Californians" Does mean we don't have to hear the collective whining anymore??? Thank God!
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 11:58:56 AM EST
I breathed a big sigh of relief when I finished reading your post. The only thing that you have that I need is the dairy products. Right now I am only minutes away from Wisconsin. You have nothing I need. Keep it. "The Cheese Master of Wisconsin is king of the dairy world."
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 12:03:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 12:07:36 PM EST
Hey BigMac, we seem heavily outnumbered. Looks like it you, me and the friends that Fight4yourrights has here in kali taking on the rest of the state. Guys, as Paul said earlier, this was posted over a month ago. I didn't write it. I don't believe the rest of the nation should bail us out for the mistakes that the state made. I've always voted conservative republican. Hey, I'm one of the good guys! [beer]
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 12:20:11 PM EST
I say you guys secede from the union. But wait, if you do, how will you defend yourselves with only limited capacity mags and politically correct rifles. Oh well, build some power plants instead and I'll plant myself a walnut tree. Seriously, the rest of the country isn't "keeping electricity" from you. Your State was just no wise in their planning for electric supply scalability. Any electric company in the USA would gladly sell CA power if the state had the capacity to accept it. That's how they make money. CA does produce the majority of the produce etc. that you list but the majority of these items are imported in far greater numbers than CA produces. Well I'm off to crank down the air conditioning, my house is getting a little warm. [;)]
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 12:53:32 PM EST
Hope I'm not too late on the "Bash California" thread. I'm a rural conservative in this state. But I have worked in the big city, too, (orange county) so I know where the liberals are. They are almost all in the big cities. We only have a very few token liberals out in the hinterlands. When I travel back to the countryside, I see plainly that almost everyone is conservative, Christian and republican, so don't blame us for the liberal bullcr@p that emanates from this state. "It ain't us. It's them big city fellars." As far as the power crisis goes, I'm rooting FOR it. Can't wait for us Californians to plunge into the blackness that the enviro-Nazis have manufactured. Once we have actually suffered from the feel-good environmentalism, the rank and file voter will place the blame squarely on those stinkin enviro-Leftists, as it should be. All this talk about building a fence round us, or wishing we would fall off into the ocean is non-productive bunk. (Only people I know who are actually scared of earthquakes are people from out of state.) As a native of this peculiar state, I have never engaged in the passtime of "You aint from around here, so f*** you and your state." Nevertheless, feel free to attack us. The *funny* condemnations which have a ring of truth to them are the most appreciated (by me). --------- Make mine a blonde Swedish Mauser.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 1:01:40 PM EST
California grows more than half the nation's fruit, nuts and vegetables. We're keeping them
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Kalifornia also breeds more than half the nation's fruits, nuts and flakes (hence the nickname, "The Granola State"). Please keep them. Eddie
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 1:15:42 PM EST
AAAARRRGGGHHH!!!! You guys are killing me! I can't just leave. If I could, I would! CA is an enormous economic force. We should not recieve any Federal bailout. We should be SELF RELIANT for our power needs. CA is moving in that direction by considering the relaxation of the environmental restrictions put on new power generation facilities. Any one who thinks that the U.S. would go down in flames if CA crashed, is delusional. Even if we fixed all of CA power woes, this place would still SUCK! If you're gonna write CA off and put up a fence, please let me have one of those keys.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 1:20:02 PM EST
And if the bordering states that you don't want to export to pulled the plug on the electricity that you buy from them you couldn't power a light bulb much less any factories, or milking machines.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 1:31:51 PM EST
Originally Posted By 03shooter: And if the bordering states that you don't want to export to pulled the plug on the electricity that you buy from them you couldn't power a light bulb much less any factories, or milking machines.
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As long as we live in a capitalist society, there will always be a supplier. With California's natural and monetary resources, industry would have no problem building power generators. And whoever owns them will make a TON of money. Maybe this will help push the developement of alternative power sources.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 1:44:27 PM EST
What a silly plea. As if the rest of us care about all the things made in California. If you don't have enough power then your corporations are going to have to move elsewhere (like Michigan, where we don't have all these earthquakes, wildfires, and lack of power!). And it's no big deal for consumers either. If you had the population you did only five years ago you wouldn't be in this pickle. If you're gonna take in so many immigrants than build the power plants. How the Dems fooled you all into thinking that immigration is good and power plant construction (their environmental spiel) is bad I still find amazing. The two just don't add up. You can't continue to take in millions of people and conserve your way to energy independence. Best wishes
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 1:47:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By operator error: As long as we live in a capitalist society, there will always be a supplier.
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Well, there is California's problem. Your Attorney General has publicly stated that capitalists should be imprisoned and gang raped. I wouldn't hold out much hope for them bailing out the state in the face of such startling threats from government officials.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 1:55:58 PM EST
You forgot something else that YOU californians are number one in. You can proudly claim to be the number one state that loves queers. You are number one state that loves to elect dumb liberals into office and that is why you are in the condition you are in. Thats all for now. I'll think of more later.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 2:00:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By Boomer:
Originally Posted By operator error: As long as we live in a capitalist society, there will always be a supplier.
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Well, there is California's problem. Your Attorney General has publicly stated that capitalists should be imprisoned and gang raped. I wouldn't hold out much hope for them bailing out the state in the face of such startling threats from government officials.
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The CA Attorney General, Bill Lockyer, is the same idiot who pushed the Assault Weapons ban through. He should be impeached for his comments on forms of prison punishment. CA does not need a bailout, but does need to become self reliant. CA government needs to pull their collective heads out of their collective asses and build, or allow to be built, power generating industries. I don't give a F**K about how we are 48th in per capita power consumption. We have approximately 12% of the U.S. population within our borders, maybe more. We should produce AT LEAST as much power as we consume. MORE if we want to turn a profit! Damn basics of business! It's simple mismanagement! The environment is NOT an excuse.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 2:12:12 PM EST
operator error, I was replying to the original post. But you hit the nail on the head with your last post, they have to quit tying the hands of the power companys and let them produce. There are power plants in California right now that are only allowed to run a few days a month because of the clean air requirments.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 2:13:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2001 2:16:49 PM EST by BigMac]
Truth is, I don't want to leave CA.... I do want out of the Silicon Valley.... I have property in a county that will issue a ccw and thats where I plan to go.... I hope we have more blackouts! I'm not a TV guy... don't have enough real food in the house to worry about loosing the stuff in my freezer.. Dont need lights, I have fire. Dont need a fridge... I have skill and knowledge of hunting and survival. I want the liberal fags to be afraid! I want them all to see the governmant can't always take care of you. Please do not sell us your power.. the cutting down the trees offer still stands (i need more fire wood). Leader in fags? never noticed I like women (specially my wife). What makes you guys so interested in our gay population, hmmmmmm? I know It's hard to believe but I know a lot of red necks here too... Any of you huys caught behind the lines wana shoot saturday? I think Ill go to los altos and enjoy my AR plinkin chocolate milk bottles on the 100 yard tin can range. I forgot to mention... when all the buisinesses bail.. they will be taking there fruits, nuts, and libs with them to states like Min. that dont have eathquakes and you can have them :) I saw this myself when GM closed the plant in my town.. everyone I knew moved to OK.... So which of the free states wants the people that are about to bail?
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 2:53:31 PM EST
Dang it, now you got me started! I USED to be a member of the Sierra Club, I got out because of the absolute politics. If they had their way, we would never be allowed to go off pavement, and the pavement would gradually be eliminated. And the horse, bike or foot would be the only forms of transportation (which might not be a bad idea for local travel). I understand the need to not rape the environment. But something has got to give. We have the natural and economic resources to develop many different forms of power safely and cleanly. This is California. We boast about the great weather. Develop solar power. Excuse = too costly. Within a few miles of my house is one of the biggest wind farms in existance. Develop wind power. Excuse = birds of prey nest in the area and fly into the turning blades and are crippled or killed. Geothermal (steam) generators. Again, this is CA, very seismically active, lots of steam below the ground. Excuse = I can't remember the excuse. I think it might be that releasing the steam lowers the water table. Or causes the ground to be less stable, your guess is as good as mine. Hydroelectric means building dams and ruining some beautiful rivers. And we have quite a few dams in Northern CA already. We are also probably moving into a drought cycle, so water releases are not such a good idea. There are probably many other alternative sources but I can't name them. This leaves the big one, NUCLEAR. I know that many people in CA support nukes BUT "not in my backyard" is the general sentiment. And I understand that. We have lots of wide open spaces. We need to develop this vital resource, in my opinion. It is the answer. And as to the question of disposal of nuclear waste, that's why God made Canada.
Link Posted: 6/14/2001 3:02:20 PM EST
This is your last warning, America. Lighten (us) up before it's too late. Love, The Californians [/quote] We will just move all the good stuff to Texas.
Link Posted: 6/15/2001 1:37:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2001 1:40:30 AM EST by LAgunman2K]
build a fence here? PLEASE DO IT!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ...BUILD 10 BERLIN WALLS AROUND THIS STATE, im begging for it, and have said years ago that we should CLOSE DOWN THE BORDER, not to keep kalifkommies in, but to KEEP THE LIBERAL PUKES OUT!!! why ? because kalif is a toilet, YES A TOILET, THE ENTIRE COUNTRY FLUSHES ALL THEIR LIBERAL SH*T INTO THIS STATE, contrary to misguided belief here, kalif does NOT grow liberal idiots, OH NO those idiots come from YOUR state and move here. 49 states worth of liberal PUKE moving into kalif and screwing things up, WE CANT WIN. and then we have gun owners from across the country who are SH*TTING on kalif and its laws. but heres the kicker -- the people that complain the most should really be complaining to there OWN FELLOW STATESMEN for coming to kalif and screwing things up. the non-kalif liberal PLAGUE coming from the other 49 states are pushing a lot of kalifkommies into other states, THEN we get SH*T on again when we move out and try escape YOUR LIBERAL FELLOW STATESMEN that make life in kalif more difficult. your state might see some kalif license plates, but on a DAILY basis i see plates from -- CT, VA, AZ, TX, WA, IL, NV, MA, OH, NH and many others -- surprisingly i see a LOT of TX and AZ plates, but those places are supposed to be HEAVENLY so im not sure why they are moving HERE if this place is such a dump. and of course those foreign liberals do NOT know how to drive here. WELCOME TO KALIF, NOW GO HOME AND TAKE BACK THE LIBERALS YOU SENT HERE!!! by the way directTV is located in kalif, 2 miles from me actually
Link Posted: 6/15/2001 1:53:44 AM EST
one more thing -- DONT SEND POWER HERE, dont want it and HOPE we have more black outs. bush is doing the Right thing by denying us low cost power. im not saying kalif is good or bad, and i certainly dont constantly SH*T on other states or cities that i dont like or have bad gun laws. every place has its own good and bad points about them, but sometimes you just got to take the good with the bad. and if its bad then theres no need to constantly shove it in the face of the people that live there.
Link Posted: 6/15/2001 2:36:09 AM EST
SCREW California,you guys didn't want any nuclear power plants,so you suffer.You guys didn't want anymore gas lines to be dug,so you suffer.You guys feel it is more neccessary to provide state funded trans-sexual operations for state employees,so you suffer.Your moronic state leadership has been more concerned about which guns to ban than your own states problems yet you reelect the morons,so you suffer.No skin off my nose,if you want to point your finger at anyone point it at that c-sucker Bill Klinton who in 8 years as president never developed any kind of energy policy for the US instead he sucked the oil rich diks of OPEC.
Link Posted: 6/15/2001 4:07:55 AM EST
In the interest of fairness to Kali, there are a couple of good things, like incredible scenery in the northern part of the state. I can think of only two other good things related to California: 1 - Ronald Reagan 2 - Metallica I'm sure there is at least one more that I can't think of right off the top of my head. However, screwed up as it is, MEXICO CAN'T HAVE IT! Amazingly, it would be worth fighting for. You Ca. guys, hang tough - maybe you can win it back one day.
Link Posted: 6/15/2001 5:46:22 AM EST
BigMac: If your comment was about liberals from your State moving to Minnesota,please don't give them any ideas! We have a surplus as it is already. Concealed carry is getting very close to being passed here right now. Our looney gov. says he'll sign it if it makes it to his desk. It will be the first thing he has done right since taking office!! Ben
Link Posted: 6/15/2001 6:05:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2001 9:35:35 AM EST by AR_in_the_woods]
Earlier I mentioned that many misguided kalifornians came from elsewhere. This got me to thinking (risky), where did these elected (not by me) leaders come from. If I ever get the time to put a whole list together I'll post it. Here are the 1st three I looked up. Gov Gray Davis - Born in the Bronx, NY, on December 26, 1942 Barbara Boxer - Born in Brooklyn, NY, on November 11, 1940 Diane Feinstein - Born in San Francisco, CA on June 22, 1933. Two from elsewhere and one from the center of kali's most liberal city...
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