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Posted: 6/11/2001 7:54:41 PM EDT
I live in Illinois and it sucks here and I'm looking for the best place to go to live I love shooting and I'd like to go some where that you can just go out in the wood and fire your gun and no one will bother you. It was like this when I was in Mississippi but the town sucked that I was in and the people where as dumb as rocks just so all people from Mississippi know the town was called Greenwood. Thanks for the help. And no one say Alaska because my wife said no to that.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 8:04:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/12/2001 1:44:21 PM EDT by EricTheHun]
I'm kinda partial to the Lone Star State. No state income tax, gun-friendly as heck, great looking chicks (oops, you did mention a wife), and geography that runs the gamut from swampland to piney woods to hill country to mountains. Excellent employment opportunities. Did I mention guns and chicks...? Eric The(YippeeYiKiYay,LittleDoggie)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 8:10:05 PM EDT
Rural Pa. is not too bad either. Taxes are moderate, 4 real seasons of weather, decent housing costs, and highly pro-gun (except Philadelphia, which seems to belong to NJ) Be glad that you are married, most of the rural Pa chicks look like they've been corn-fed........
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 8:10:57 PM EDT
Do not come to Florida! You will not like it here. It is hot ALL the time, and you do not know real humidity until are in central Florida in the middle of August. We are out of water and the state is on fire. In fact, if you know anybody in Florida, call them tonight and convince them to leave. See if they have any friends down here from Canada and / or New York, and see if they can convince them to leave also. Man, there are bugs the size of LL baseballs, Alligators in your backyard, and stingrays and sharks will attack you upon entering the tepid water from one of our hot, eroding, decaying beaches! This place is not fit for human habitation!
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 8:12:12 PM EDT
I moved from Texas to Idaho 6 years ago, and the gun laws a lax here more so than Texas, the mountains a prettier here, the desert, well the desert is the desert, and we don't have a muddy gulf but we do have pristine rivers. I say Idaho
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 8:21:34 PM EDT
If I could choose anywhere to live, it would definitely be the crescent city on the Mississippi, New Orleans. But the weak job market there keeps me here in Ohio.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 8:35:44 PM EDT
Shit with the description I saw above of FLORIDA, I think I'll move there---moust be better than CAlipornia/...
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 8:49:46 PM EDT
Don't move to Texas! Way too many people here, gun unfriendly as hell, and the people here are the rudest in the world. Plus all of the girls are really fat. The minimum wage in Texas is $1.63/hr and gas is $8.00/gal. Did I also mention I want the whole state to myself? Michael
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 9:03:52 PM EDT
Think western states,public lands,then there are public lands, oh did I mention public lands. Lands that YOU own? Moved from Texas 28 years ago for just that reason. And I lived in the best part of Texas, the Big Bend area.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 9:28:22 PM EDT
We would love to have you in our state of TN. Come on down!!!
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 9:47:11 PM EDT
Dude, AR is pretty damn good for those of us that like guns. Weather's decent, chicks are hot, and you can come shoot in my backyard.[:)]
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 8:32:23 AM EDT
Well since Alaska is out of the question, I really liked Wyoming in fact sometimes I kind of miss it. Good Luck, Rabon
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 9:19:48 AM EDT
OK, what's great about South Carolina................hhhmmm, let me get back to ya............
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 9:21:13 AM EDT
It's all the way across the country from California (sorry, it's the best I could come up with)
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 9:31:23 AM EDT
I would think inside that lil black box on airplanes. That space is purdy dang safe. [:D]
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 9:37:43 AM EDT
i have to go with paspecops on this one! pa is great! rich in history, gun friendly, sweet air, gorgeous mountains, friendly people. i can't wait to move back!! i also lived in CO for a while, and while i saw a great many things, i NEVER saw one "private property" sign!!
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 9:55:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Rabon: Well since Alaska is out of the question, I really liked Wyoming in fact sometimes I kind of miss it. Good Luck, Rabon
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Just so that you know I've gone camping in Alaska in the gates of the Arctic national park and I loved it there my wife liked it but she does not like the cold but I loved Alaska anyone would who loves open space and just the beauty that is there should be in every state. Alaska was like heaven to me
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 9:55:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/12/2001 9:59:20 AM EDT by Red Dawn]
Originally Posted By BigGuns: Do not come to Florida! You will not like it here. It is hot ALL the time, and you do not know real humidity until are in central Florida in the middle of August.
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Yeah, the humidity will get you the minute you walk out the door. You're soaked with perspiration within minutes and you don't have to put forth any effort to get that way.
Originally Posted By BigGuns: We are out of water and the state is on fire.
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Drinking water that is. Up here in the panhandle if your lawn isn't dying from lack of water it's flooded from the storms that come in from the Gulf.
Originally Posted By BigGuns: In fact, if you know anybody in Florida, call them tonight and convince them to leave. See if they have any friends down here from Canada and / or New York, and see if they can convince them to leave also.
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You're right on that one! We've been bombarded with "snowbirds" from the north.
Originally Posted By BigGuns: Man, there are bugs the size of LL baseballs, Alligators in your backyard, and stingrays and sharks will attack you upon entering the tepid water from one of our hot, eroding, decaying beaches!
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Not to mention every poison snake on the American continent, except the western diamondback, panthers, bobcats, bears, and snapping turtles. And don't forget the little bitty bugs, ie: chiggers, miniature mosquitos, and love bugs that destroy the paint on your car.
Originally Posted By BigGuns: This place is not fit for human habitation!
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Oh yeah, you forgot to mention the school systems. At this point, there not good, although I think Gov. Bush is trying to do something about it. Whether he'll succeed is to be seen. I think that just about covers it. I'm looking to leave asap. Looking to go to southwestern Utah. Hear it's a gun friendly state.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 10:05:15 AM EDT
AS a former PA'er myself, I'll have to throw my vote to my old home state as well...of course now I live in VA, which is VERY similar to PA.....having just moved out of the Socialist State of MD!!! Bulldog
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 11:32:06 AM EDT
Botswana or Namibia or Capetown.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 11:34:25 AM EDT
I gotta throw my hat in with the Pa. crowd. Where I live I can choose from 5 major market areas for employment, all within an hour's ride. Paspecops needs to get out more because there are plenty of fine ladies in Pa. Granted, I nearly get whiplash whenever I go to Dallas or Phoenix, but Pa. is no slouch. I like the fact that I can legally carry a gun and the state is mostly open counrtyside so there are plenty of places to shoot. Heck, there are plenty of ORGANIZED places to shoot. Between Carlisle and York, there are signs for "deerhunter crossings". Many areas close the public schools for opening day of deer season! Another nice feature of my area is the quick access to the Chesapeake Bay for boating in the summer. Stay away from Maryland, though..
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 11:42:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MelonPopper: OK, what's great about South Carolina................hhhmmm, let me get back to ya............
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What about the 5 month deer season? Mini-bottles & no alcohol sales on sunday.... oh yea these are supposed to be good things. Did I mention the loooong assed deer season?
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 11:55:12 AM EDT
Northern Idaho. Just don't try to find a decent paying job.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 11:55:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/12/2001 11:53:17 AM EDT by mtnpatriot]
Originally Posted By Red Dawn: You're right on that one! We've been bombarded with "snowbirds" from the north.
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[center][size=6][b]LIKE HELL!![/b][/center][/size=6] My tiny little county just quadrupled in size thanks to FL license plates!! You might get [b]SOME[/b] "snow birds" in winter but we get just about [b]EVERY[/b] FL resident in the spring, summer, and fall![V] [center][size=4][b]If they call it tourist season, why can't we shoot some?[/center][/size=4][/b]
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 11:56:03 AM EDT
Maine isn't to bad a place. Good deer hunting,mostly gun friendly(except Portland area)and plenty of places to shoot.NewHampshire (Northern half) pretty nice too.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 12:09:37 PM EDT
Where in Illinois do you live I just went shooting with my father and brother. We brought an ar, a mini 14, and a couple of pistols. We where shooting on land owned by a friend of my dads it is outside of effingham a little ways. There where a few houses within a couple of miles. It was my brothers first time shooting an ar and he got a little excited. He later informed me that it was a test because he did not believe that you could shoot as fast as you can pull the trigger. Well you can and another friend of my dads who owns a gun shop wanted to know if we had fully automatic rifles when he saw my dad the next day. We probably shot close to 1000 rounds that day. Our time was cut short due to rain, but we where there for a couple of hours trying to wait it out. To my shock the cops did not even come out to check up on us. Perhaps you could look in this area. Another option would be Michigan. This is where I live and there is plenty of land in the u.p. where no one will even hear you. Good luck in your search.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 12:29:04 PM EDT
Come on down to ARIZONA !!!! lots of shootin places, and we need more votes to dump mcain !!!
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 12:40:47 PM EDT
Michigan is a pretty good place to live outside of the city of Detroit. Great woodlands, hunting, fishing, lakes, beaches, skiing, golf, snowmobiling. Lots of jobs available. If you are from Illinois look at the west side of the state around Grand Rapids. Or north if you like snow. Has the prettiest fall weather, warm summers, snowy winters. No floods, earthquakes, droughts, volcanoes, hurricanes, and only a few tornados.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 12:46:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By killingmachine123: Where in Illinois do you live Your lucky that the PD did not come and take all your gun's I living Bloomington IL I think is north of you this place is not as bad as back by Elgin IL but I still have to drive about 20 miles to get to the shooting range. I have looked at land in IL but is to much money and I was told that I could not shoot on it so I said screw that. Money wise it cost me $110k for a cleared lot of 25 acres now for that much in southern states I found 100 acres + for that much money thats with a nice home on it also.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 12:52:12 PM EDT
Kentucky is nice. We have all kinds of places to shoot, and we are gun friendly. If you dont like the weather here, all you have to do is wait and it will change. Just my 2 cents. 13th Monkey
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 12:57:51 PM EDT
Sounds like Nevada is the place for you. Jobs are available (casino industry of course), this is a shall issue, Class 3 friendly state, with lots of open land and safe shooting areas. Lots of 4x4 areas as welll, with close access to snow (1 hr) and Lake Mead. We also have monthly Ar15 shoots, open to anyone.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 1:07:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 13th monkey: Kentucky is nice. We have all kinds of places to shoot, and we are gun friendly. If you dont like the weather here, all you have to do is wait and it will change. Just my 2 cents. 13th Monkey
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Kentucky is a nice place. West Virginia is nice also if you don't need a job. Tennesee would be cool except for that school in Knoxville (UT). North Carolina is cool too, they just can't play basketball like Kentucky.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 1:19:03 PM EDT
[center][size=6][b]LIKE HELL!![/b][/center][/size=6] My tiny little county just quadrupled in size thanks to FL license plates!! You might get [b]SOME[/b] "snow birds" in winter but we get just about [b]EVERY[/b] FL resident in the spring, summer, and fall![V]
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I got to give that one to you, but just because there are now 24 people in your county, don't hate all of us, "flatland" tourists. [:D] I don't think, however, you really understand the magnitude of the "snowbird" influx during the winter, here! At least we spread out some. I spent most of last vacation in GA and TN mountains. Only cruised into Franklin to visit my aunt and uncles graves and old homestead. If we had hills and mountains, tourists would never leave!
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 1:38:00 PM EDT
I'll go with Satcong, Cape Town is a great place. A lot like San Francisco without the weirdness or high prices. You have to ignore the rest of SA tho' and that can be a problem.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 2:10:57 PM EDT
mtnpatriot: Please send further tourist information to this Florida resident: Janet Reno, Former US Atty General Miami, FL Thanks for the help man!!!
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 2:19:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mtnpatriot:
Originally Posted By Red Dawn: You're right on that one! We've been bombarded with "snowbirds" from the north.
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[center][size=6][b]LIKE HELL!![/b][/center][/size=6] My tiny little county just quadrupled in size thanks to FL license plates!! You might get [b]SOME[/b] "snow birds" in winter but we get just about [b]EVERY[/b] FL resident in the spring, summer, and fall![V] [center][size=4][b]If they call it tourist season, why can't we shoot some?[/center][/size=4][/b]
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No doubt man. I live in Hendersonville, NC. The population in the summer and fall is almost all old people that can't drive.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 2:20:23 PM EDT
I have to agree with NV. Up near Reno you can sneak over to Lake Tahoe. Pleanty of open space, decent gun shows, and plenty of work. Haven't been to PA in 12 years, but my famil is there, they get a vote too. Good state. Anywhere but Maryland, Kalifornia & Mass.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 2:22:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/12/2001 2:21:37 PM EDT by Imbroglio]
Originally Posted By fattym4: i have to go with paspecops on this one! pa is great! rich in history, gun friendly, sweet air, gorgeous mountains, friendly people. i can't wait to move back!!
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Birch Beer, Tastycakes, Pechins and Pat's Steaks.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 2:29:28 PM EDT
"go west" New Mexico has been great to me. I live on the border of the Gila Nat. Forest. Elevation 6200 ft. No humidity, 90 degree day, 50 degree nights, lots of open spaces, I can be in Tuscon or El paso in 3 hours, and the best hunting in the world.(mule deer, elk, coyote, javelina, mountain lion, bear, oryx, Big horn sheep, Ibex, etc. Cost of living is low but the pay is not that great. Extremely freindly people. No crime. If you get in the mountains the weather is the best of any place you could pick. Four very gentle seasons.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 2:29:59 PM EDT
I grew up in NC, spent a few years in the FL panhandle, moved back. Everything they said about FL is true. But I liked calling NC home a lot more before I got into guns. It's nothing like NJ, CA, IL, but for a southern state it's plum communist - and headed down the tubes in an awful hurry now that we have the husband of an HCI board member for the Goober. (Winner of the gubernatorial race, I figure makes him a goober.) If it gets any worse, I'm headed over the mountains to the land of all NFA devices, no pistol permits, shall issue CCW (which we do have, but no reciprocity), no income tax (grrrr.. NC failed to charge my credit card on an e-file last year. Didn't notify me until October, then charged me penalty and interest - including for 30 days in the future, 25 of which never occurred, as I paid it promptly like a good citizen.) How a place as thoroughly democrat as NC ever elected Jesse Helms baffles me. (He was the first in over 100 years when he started though.) You guys in TN save me a spot. I'm coming sooner or later.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 2:31:49 PM EDT
Any where would be fine as long as you lived at the end of a long dirt road!
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 2:53:41 PM EDT
I can't believe no one mentioned the great state of Indiana . 4 seasons , Great deer hunting , Great gun laws ( or lack of them ) Lake Michigan in the summer and one of the best things is that we don't have to worry about that stupid " Spring forward , Fall back " crap . Seriously why would anyone want it to be 10:30 when it is really 9:00 or 2:00 when it is 3:00 . if the good lord wanted us to change our clocks every 6 month he would of made the Sun go backwards . Some places may be better but I have it preety good . Just wish I was out in the country instead of this subdivision crap .
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 3:05:55 PM EDT
This is for the guy who wanted to move to New Orleans......Don't..The Food is awesome, the Governor loves guns but everything else sucks. But then again i could use someone to shoot with.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 3:21:18 PM EDT
Maine the way life should be.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 3:25:37 PM EDT
Alaska.....I've stood in the mountains and known there was not a road for 40 miles. I've watched great bears cross a pass at 6000 ft under low scudding clouds with rocky peaks all around. I've hunted Dall sheep on ridges so sharp, I still have the scars on my fingers. I have seen salmon fill the wild rivers with water so clean you could drink it straight. I've watched the first snow dust great peaks covered with red blueberry leaves and yellow aspen......and then, then came the darn winter and I nearly froze to death!!!! Remember the old song "Squaws along the Yukon" it says when its sprintime in Alaska, its 48 below. Here I am in Hawaii, but my heart is in Alaska! Never,ever has there been a place like Alaska!
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 4:46:35 PM EDT
Come to MD and help me fight the pinkos.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 4:53:06 PM EDT
I live in Washington State and its pretty nice here, but my plans are to live in Oregon,eastern that is, good weather with distinct seasons AND full auto friendly!!!Oh and you can shoot a dear with a 223, cant do that in Wash.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 5:06:28 PM EDT
Great thread with lots of friendly folk trying to help! Great! I have had the opportunity to travel to all 50 states in the US of A and continue to live in NC. But, as stated, getting too many people but, we do have the best basketball college in the country(even better than Kentucky) Sorry. But Cruiser said it best, "Anyplace is great if you live at the end of a long dirt road!" Great quote.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 5:36:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: I'm kinda partial to the Lone Star State. No state income tax, gun-friendly as heck, great looking chicks (oops, you did mention a wife), and geography that runs the gamut from swampland to piney woods to hill country to mountains. Excellent employment opportunities. Did I mention guns and chicks...? Eric The(YippeeYiKiYay,LittleDoggie)Hun[>]:)] [/quote I'm going to back ETH on this we've got all the above and room to spread out. The only thing we don't have is funny accents and subway systems. There's plenty of room to four wheel,plenty of gun shops and concealed handgun permits.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 6:16:40 PM EDT
Maine - Most heavily forested state and also the highest percentage of gun owners per capita, 2nd only to Alaska. If you don't mind the tourists in the summer and the long winters, it's not so bad. Oh yeah....Bushmaster is only 10 minutes from my house.
Link Posted: 6/12/2001 6:29:13 PM EDT
Why not move to California? Plenty of jobs, experienced only need apply. The good paying jobs are mostly in major population centers, so housing is next to impossible to aquire and/or afford. This creates ever increasing "suburbs", and in turn, major commute traffic. Real estate starts at around $300.00/square foot. Slightly cheaper out in the suburbs. No need to worry about electric bills this summer. Very good weather. It looks like we're moving into a drought cycle again. So water rationing is probably in our future. Very limited access to public shooting land. BLM and USFS are becoming ever more restrictive, especially about "assault weapons". Very culturally diverse. And don't bother bringing your Sport Utility Rifles with you. To do so would be a crime. Come to California! We'll show you a good time!
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