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Posted: 6/11/2001 11:13:34 AM EST
I was at the range this weekend shooting my AR (what else). Some guy sits down just to my left with a bolt action scoped rifle. I wasn't paying much attention until the shot went off... KA BOOM! Shock wave damn near blew me off my seat. It was a 300 Win Mag. He was sighting it in to hunt Elk, man I sure would hate to be on the receiving end of THAT thing.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 11:15:53 AM EST
Pretty cool, huh? I've been seriously considering one as my next toy. Kinda hard to justify, but I'm sure I'll find a way. Ross
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 11:16:06 AM EST
i have an old mauser 8mm turkish...KA BOOM not as big as the 300 but its my anti-yeti artillery piece fun and cheap to shoot i got it from my brother in law for christmas
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 11:17:17 AM EST
I guess you wouldnt like my 338 Ultra mag either.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 11:18:51 AM EST
I was going to mention my 300 ultra mag, but ya beat me to it AF.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 11:21:08 AM EST
.458?/.454? nitro i dont know i just know it was big and it wasnt mine. how about a nice side by side 50BMG
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 11:24:47 AM EST
My favorite caliber. Anybody else besides me tried 240 grain Sierra MatchKings in one?
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 11:32:32 AM EST
Originally Posted By shooterX308: My favorite caliber. Anybody else besides me tried 240 grain Sierra MatchKings in one?
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This guy said he like the 180 grainers. Said he never managed to flat drop a Bull Elk, when hit they just stand there a few seconds, then their legs get wobbly, then they go down. He liked to be within 400 yards before taking the shot.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 11:44:07 AM EST
I am going to get a remington 700 in .300 win mag. Alot of guys I talk to don't like it becuase its a belted cartridge,I don't see the big deal,am I missing something? Other cons were it was a long action cartridge. No big deal to me either. And that it beat the shooter to death. Not a problem,I am still younge and bull headed. Recoil does'nt bother me.{Flinch,...Flinch. [:D]
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 11:52:26 AM EST
Elk medicine-.338 Win Mag in a light weight Rem Model 700 with 225 Gr. Barnes X. Better terminal performance and you can actually carry the thing around. Last elk hunt a guy brought the 300 Ultra Mag, the guide carried it most of the time (too long and heavy). IMHO if you can not burn all your powder in a 24" or shorter barrel your rifle will not work in the tough country. Great to boost the ego but has no place at 11,000 ft altitude climbing straight up.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 11:53:40 AM EST
Mine kicks like a country mule, but LOVES 200 grain BTSPs. Shoots 1/2 MOA.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 11:54:04 AM EST
Originally Posted By sigman: I am going to get a remington 700 in .300 win mag. Alot of guys I talk to don't like it becuase its a belted cartridge,I don't see the big deal,am I missing something? Other cons were it was a long action cartridge. No big deal to me either. And that it beat the shooter to death. Not a problem,I am still younge and bull headed. Recoil does'nt bother me.{Flinch,...Flinch. [:D]
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The belts and cartridge length have never been a problem for me. Brass is plentiful, good, and cheap. Bullets Choices are multitudinous. Powder selections are great. Still looking for the downside.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 12:58:33 PM EST
Originally Posted By sigman: I am going to get a remington 700 in .300 win mag. Alot of guys I talk to don't like it becuase its a belted cartridge,I don't see the big deal,am I missing something? Other cons were it was a long action cartridge. No big deal to me either. And that it beat the shooter to death. Not a problem,I am still younge and bull headed. Recoil does'nt bother me.{Flinch,...Flinch. [:D]
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O.K. heres the scoop: I have a Rem-700 Sendero in 300 Win Mag. IT DOES NOT BEAT YOU TO DEATH, why? Its fairly heavy partially due to the scope I have but it has more of a push rather than a kick to it as a result. I usually load about 100 rounds for it and will shoot ALL of those most of the time. If you buy a lighter rifle, it probably will hit you a bit harder. If you're hunting, go with the lighter rifle AND PRACTICE until you're acclimated (?sp) with it. Why did I buy the Sendero? For long range (1000+ yards) after having talked to a few long range shooters. This is something i've been interested in for a long time and talked to a few long ranger shooters. They thought it was a good rifle to start with. My setup: Remington 700 Sendero in 300 Win Mag Speedlock Systems light weight firing pin [works good in the remington] Leupold Vari-X III 6.5-20x Long Range Target Scope Mil-Dot reticle [p/n: LU52199] Leupold One Piece Long Range Scope Mount (+15moa) Also lets not forget a Jewell trigger (1lb). Its a nice setup, I shoot it and the AR more than anything else i've got - LOVE IT!!!!
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 1:00:33 PM EST
Check out the new .300 Winchester Short Magnum. Supposedly same ballistics, non-belted, short action. US Repeating Arms, Inc
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 1:04:35 PM EST
Oh yeah, regarding the cartridge and action. Some people feel that a short action is more rigid/less prone to flexing than a long action. True but benchrest accuracy isn't needed for every application. Belts are from a time when metallurgy was not as good as today and it was THOUGHT to be necessary. I don't know for sure if it was necessary then but definately isn't needed today thus you have newer cartridges like the 300Ultra and the 300WSM which don't have the belt [and their trousers often fall down [:)] just kidding!].
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 1:28:42 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 2:03:47 PM EST
.300 Win Mags are amazing. They have more engergy down range (500yrd+) than a .44Mag does at muzzle. I have a Tikka 7MM All Weather (slightly better balistic drag co-efficient than the .300) and it thumps. Lots of different factory ammo avail and it can pretty much take out anything on the continent. Though, for Elk and Brown Bear packing the .300 is the right thing to do. In Maj John Plaster's book (The Ultimate Sniper) he has some pretty good info on .300 as a sniper rifle etc. If I had to do it again I might buy the .300 since you can get scopes with BDCs calibrated for .300 pretty easy. Finding a 7MM BDC scope is a chore...still looking. I shoot at golf balls at 100 yd(no 200+ yd ranges near me) and I blow the sh1t out of them. From the bench I am sitting around 3/4MOA but sometimes I do better and tighten it up. I need more practice. Wouldn't recommend .300 for anything other than big game...it will destroy the target almost completely. Check out some of the numbers on .300 at www.Remington.com
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 4:10:21 PM EST
I shoot a PSS-DM in 300 WINMAG. Use Badger HD rings, Badger mount and Leupold Glass, with a little of this and that... Shoots like a dream, hits like a nightmare. Get one, you won't be sorry.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 4:30:04 PM EST
I own one in a sig shr.nice gun but kicks hard.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 4:30:43 PM EST
Carried a .300WM to South Africa and Spain last year. It took everything from a 20 pound Steenbok to a 1800 pound Eland with one shot kills. At ranges from 50 to 285 yards. Nothing got away. The rifle has yet to miss. The cartridge just does everything well. Shoots flat, hits hard and has a good range of factory loads and premium bullets available just about everywhere. It's not a difficult cartridge to shoot either. 180gr and 200gr Trophy Bonded Bearclaws from Federal Safari Grade work for me. Arock out.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 4:43:32 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 5:05:08 PM EST
i have a sako in .300wm. with a good load, i have been able to shoot several one-hole groups at 100 yds. the only problem is that the day of shooting is OVER after 20 rnds. oww, my shoulder! [sniper]
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 5:11:37 PM EST
My brother has a Winchester Model 70 in 300 win mag. It is an awesome gun, huge scope, accurate as anyone could want, and fun to shoot. The 300 is definitely a perfect match of power and size, but my brother and I (poor college students) have found the biggest problem for now to be the price of the rounds. 20 for 20 is expesive for us, seeing as how I can buy 1000 7.62x39 russians for around $100 or less. Everytime I fire it I think two things. 1. Ouch 2. There goes $1
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 5:16:56 PM EST
Remington based, synthetic stock, fluted barrel, bedded, Timney trigger, and Badger muzzle brake. Leupold 8.5x25x50 Long range target scope with 30mm main tube. Shoots around 1/2 MOA. Badger brake cut recoil down almost 50%, but still hurts a little because this rifle is so light. A 300 Win-Mag will shoot through over 1.125" of regular steel, with 165 grain black tip AP rounds, traveling at 3100 FPS. This baby is fun to shoot, but 50 rounds is about all you can take, in one outing. [img]albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1482572&a=12924041&p=48477537[/img]
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 5:53:47 PM EST
The 300 Win mag is my second favorite rifle cartridge,I had one built a few years back (Interarms Mark X receiver, 26" #6 contour Douglas Air Guaged barrel, bedded in a McMillan glass stock, 6 1/2 x 20 Luepold) it is fairly heavy so recoil is not a problem. I generally shoot a 190 Sierra Match King, as of late I have shot a few 220 Sierra Match Kings both shoot under .5 M.O.A It is my favorite rifle. As for the belted case it is not needed on the 300 Win Mag(Belted cases are a whole new story), The 300 Win Mag is a "Must Have" (thats what I tell my wife) but I think a 308 Winchester or two is more of a "Must Have". Have a nice evening, Rabon.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 7:54:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 8:07:10 PM EST
I own an AWM in 300win mag with fluted barrel, beautiful piece, I outshoot .308's and every sniper rifle I come by at the range, its equiped with a swarovski 30MM scope and harris bipod, by far the best rifle I have ever spent more then 9000$ for.
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 8:40:13 PM EST
I don't want to make anybody PUKE, but, Browning just introduced the BAR STALKER. I dig bolt-actions, but, I thought this model up before THEY did! Now, it's a production item. It's all matte black; can be had with the B.O.S.S./C.R.(the no holes version of the tuning device); it's gas operated to soften the recoil; and it's a semi-auto, for those quick windshield breaking, I mean, follow up shots on game... See the pictures at:[url]http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/bar/bar.htm[/url] I may have to add this one to the "Must Have" column. In which caliber? Ahh, lemme see...
Link Posted: 6/11/2001 9:51:22 PM EST
I love my Ruger M-77 MarkII all weather (stainless and synthetic)in 300 win mag. If you roll your own you can load up or down to suit game size and recoils not that harsh , but I like my contender in 45-70 too.
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