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3/20/2017 5:03:23 PM
Posted: 6/4/2001 3:40:53 PM EDT
We know what's wrong with the Demos, liberals. How about the GOP? Radical right wing Moral Majority, Conservative Christian Right. Opposition to a woman's right to choose. Opposed to legal protections for gays / lesbians. Opposed to gay / lesbian marriages. Energy conservation swine. Favors drug prosecution over drug abuse treatment. Opposed to national health care reform. Tax breaks for the wealthy. Cuts in social programs for the disadvantaged. OK . . . add to the list, or flame me . . .
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 3:51:17 PM EDT
just carbon copys of democrats latley the line between the 2 seems really blurred
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 3:53:26 PM EDT
My problem with the GOP is that they have become the right-wing of the American Socialist Party. Otherwise to comment on why you don't like them... "Radical right wing Moral Majority, Conservative Christian Right. " ...and the problem is? "Opposition to a woman's right to choose. " Abortion is murder but the federal government has no business regulating either. The US Constitution delegates that to the states or the people themselves. "Opposed to legal protections for gays / lesbians. " ...it is already illegal to harm another human being regardless of their sex, race, etc. No group deserves special protection. "Opposed to gay / lesbian marriages. " ..and the problem is? If 2 gays want to get married in their hearts, why do they need a license from the government? For tax reasons? Rewarding (or penalizing) married people through tax laws is wrong and unconstitutional. "Energy conservation swine. " Market forces will dictate conservation rates. Notice how sales of big SUV's have slumped lately? No government regulations required to do that now. "Favors drug prosecution over drug abuse treatment. " I agree but the government should not be funding drug abuse treatment. If you strongly support drug treatment programs, you are free to give as much money as you want to those programs. Don't take it from me at the point of an IRS gun. "Opposed to national health care reform. " ...you mean government health care? "Tax breaks for the wealthy. " ...They pay more in taxes, they will get the biggest break. "Cuts in social programs for the disadvantaged." There is nothing preventing you from donating your time and money to these programs. Don't force me to pay for it at the point of the IRS's gun. Live Free or Die. The choice is yours. Regards, Sons of Liberty
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 3:58:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By PowderBurns: We know what's wrong with the Demos, liberals. How about the GOP? Radical right wing Moral Majority, Conservative Christian Right.
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Opposition to a woman's right to choose.
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See above. I have some problem with the carte blanche "right to choose". Somewhere in there the fetus becomes a human being with rights of its own. The question is (to me) where do you draw the line? Right now it seems to be about 60 seconds prior to birth. I don't think so.
Opposed to legal protections for gays / lesbians.
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I'm against "special protection" for any particular group, and I'm adamantly opposed to persecution for the "crime" of being gay. This primarily has to do with item 1 above, in which the Christian Right holds that homosexuality is an abomination (although I don't think there's a Biblical passage dealing with [i]female[/i] homosexuality, per se.
opposed to gay / lesbian marriages.
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Back to Item 1 and see immediately above.
Energy conservation swine.
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Excuse me? Define "swine"?
Favors drug prosecution over drug abuse treatment.
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Yeah, I have some real problems with the "War on (some) drugs". It's a case of "well, THAT didn't work - let's try it again, only [i]harder[/i]
Opposed to national health care reform.
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Right with 'em there. Every idea I've seen is socialized medicine in some form or other. They don't seem to want to make the system better, they want to make everyone receive [b]equally bad[/b] healthcare. That seems to be the idea of [i]fair reform[/i].
Tax breaks for the wealthy.
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Why not? They're the ones paying most of it anyway. Seems fair to me.
Cuts in social programs for the disadvantaged.
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Isn't it a damned shame that the "disadvantaged" have to work for what they get just like everybody else? Wait! I have an idea! Let's take money from the rich people who don't deserve it and give it to the "disadvantaged" so that they will like us and vote for us! Yeah! That'll work!
OK . . . add to the list, or flame me . . .
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How'd I do? [sniper]
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 4:02:56 PM EDT
GOP is all for dumping billions into the National Missile Defense, even though it doesn't work against ballistic missiles and can be easily circumvented by terrorists.
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 4:11:26 PM EDT
I'm surprised on one has yet mentioned GOP treachery on gun laws. How often have they resisted initially, only to cave in and compromise. And by compromising enough, they have helped to bring us to the point we're at now. The mythical "center" they keep talking about keeps moving closer to something that Uncle Joe or Adolf would be proud to call his own. John Ashcroft saying he believes the 2d Amendment restrains FedGov from disarming individuals is not good enough. Unless gun laws start getting tossed out by the truckload, it's all just talk. There should be NO gun laws, in my never to be humble opinion.
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 4:26:26 PM EDT
The problem with the GOP is they are not true to their ideals. The Republican party is supposed to be in favor of a small federal government but they can never avoid the temptation to do a little social engineering of their own when they get in power. The moderates want socialism lite, and the radical right has this religious agenda that gets in the way of the rest of the republican agenda. Neither party seems to care too much what the constitution says, they both seem to see it as an impediment rather than a mandate. That's my .02, worth every penny
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 4:39:42 PM EDT
I'm a Libertarian that happens to vote Republicain. The reason (right or wrong) is that I know doing any different gives more votes to Demon crats. The thing is the Republicans for the last 10 years haven't shown they have any balls when it comes to individual sovernty / Bill Rights / though they claim to be for smaller government and individual sovernty / state rights / (Unless it's Abortion) they don't fight tooth & nail for what they say they know is right. Demon crats on the other hand only like odd Amendments to Constitution the others they try to ignore. But you have to give those Demon crats credit; they keep coming like a bad zombie movie. Kinda like Dawn of the Dead. [dracula]
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 4:42:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Weiseguy: The problem with the GOP is they are not true to their ideals. The Republican party is supposed to be in favor of a small federal government but they can never avoid the temptation to do a little social engineering of their own when they get in power. The moderates want socialism lite, and the radical right has this religious agenda that gets in the way of the rest of the republican agenda. Neither party seems to care too much what the constitution says, they both seem to see it as an impediment rather than a mandate. That's my .02, worth every penny
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Roger that.
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 5:18:09 PM EDT
My dear PowderBurns - you say...
We know what's wrong with the Demos, liberals
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...and then you go and spout out every lame-assed complaint the Left has ever had with the Right. Whose side are YOU on, anyway? Let's hear what YOU think is wrong with the Left. As far as I can see, nothing you said about the GOP was anything I think they should feel bad about. Eric The(Right)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 5:32:26 PM EDT
Seems to me that if the GOP is in power they want play nice and cooperate with the Dems, trying to give them what they want. When the Dems are in power they say 'screw you GOP'. The GOP needs to stop playing nice.
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 5:38:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/4/2001 5:38:54 PM EDT by RoyDamnMercer]
My problem with the GOP....hummm Same as with the Democrats. Both major parties are more interested in their own political welfare than they are about freedom and liberty for you or me. Both parties are buying votes...either from the leftist socialists or the religious right. Both parties feel they have to constantly pass new laws...ever hear of either of them repealing a law? It's all about staying in power. If you are a Libertarian that votes Republican...you are neither! You are either a coward or horribly confused. Have some balls and vote for LIBERTY. If you don't speak up they are NEVER gonna listen. With the Republicrats...the Constitution be damned! [b] WWW.LP.ORG [/b]
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 5:54:25 PM EDT
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Since I'm still fuming:
Originally Posted By PowderBurns: We know what's wrong with the Demos, liberals. How about the GOP? Radical right wing Moral Majority, Conservative Christian Right. [red] Should have no bearing in government. [/red] Opposition to a woman's right to choose. [red] What about the babies rights? [/red] Opposed to legal protections for gays / lesbians. [red] They should have the same rights as me..but no more than me. [/red] Opposed to gay / lesbian marriages. [red] As long as I am not forced to be married to a man..what's the problem? [/red] Energy conservation swine. [red] What the F*** does this mean anyway? [/red] Favors drug prosecution over drug abuse treatment. [red] I favor neither...why should I pay a red cent for crackheads...in jail or rehab? [/red] Opposed to national health care reform. [red] This is a free market economy...not socialism. Check out "Hillarycare" or how it's done in Canada. [/red] Tax breaks for the wealthy. [red] The top 10% of income earners pay over 50% of the taxes...hardly seems far does it? Class warfare always works to get out the vote. Ever been employed by a poor person?...thought not. [/red] Cuts in social programs for the disadvantaged. [red] Disadvantaged? You mean the lazy...they have the same opportunities as me. With the exception of the handicaped, "disadvantaged" is merely a euphamism for people who don't work hard, take risks, save, earn, invest, reinvest and employ others. [/red] OK . . . add to the list, or flame me . . .
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Link Posted: 6/4/2001 6:02:31 PM EDT
My problems with the GOP? They won't give "progressives" like McCain the boot. Moral Majority trying to legislate morality. Not serious enough about cutting taxes. They don't care about saving my guns!!!
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 6:12:09 PM EDT
Wow, some pretty astute gripes here. I agree with nearly everyone who posted.
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 8:24:25 PM EDT
Darn it. I got all prepared to flame away, but everyone here already did it for me!
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 8:34:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 11:12:40 PM EDT
What you been smoking?
Originally Posted By PowderBurns: We know what's wrong with the Demos, liberals. How about the GOP? Radical right wing Moral Majority, Conservative Christian Right. Opposition to a woman's right to choose. Opposed to legal protections for gays / lesbians. Opposed to gay / lesbian marriages. Energy conservation swine. Favors drug prosecution over drug abuse treatment. Opposed to national health care reform. Tax breaks for the wealthy. Cuts in social programs for the disadvantaged. OK . . . add to the list, or flame me . . .
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Link Posted: 6/4/2001 11:15:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By PowderBurns: We know what's wrong with the Demos, liberals. How about the GOP? Radical right wing Moral Majority, Conservative Christian Right. YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT AND WATCH TOO MUCH NETWORK PROPAGANDA tv Opposition to a woman's right to choose. WHAT "RIGHT TO CHOOSE" YOU MEAN "RIGHT TO KILL THE INCONVENIENT" PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE IT EXISTS IN THE CONSTITUTION. Opposed to legal protections for gays / lesbians. THEY HAVE THE SAME LEGAL PROTECTIONS WE ALL DO. Opposed to gay / lesbian marriages. A SODOMITIC SHAM OF A REAL MARRIAGE IS NOT A MARRIAGE, JUST LIKE YOU CAN TRAIN A PIG TO SLEEP IN YOUR BED AND CALL IT "DOG" BUT IT WILL NEVER BE A DOG. Energy conservation swine. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT I ASSUME YOU WATCH TOO MUCH "CAPTAIN PLANET" Favors drug prosecution over drug abuse treatment. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BOTH. LET DRUGGIES KILL THEMSELVES OFF. NATURAL SELECTION RULES, UNLESS "DO GOODERS" WITH OTHER PEOPLES EXTORTED MONIES GET IN THE WAY. Opposed to national health care reform. GOOD. Tax breaks for the wealthy. MORE BULLSHIT. WEALTHY PEOPLE HAVE "EARNED IT" AND SHOULD PAY A FLAT TAX, SAME AS ANYONE ELSE. OR BETTER YET, NO TAX AT ALL. Cuts in social programs for the disadvantaged. FUCK 'EM. SEE THE "DRUGGIES" REPLY. OK . . . add to the list, or flame me . . .
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THE BIGGEST PROB WITH THE GOP? IS THAT AFTER 40 YEARS OF not RUNNING THE CONGRESS AND 7 YEARS OF BEING THE MAJORITY, THEY STILL ACT LIKE THE MINORITY. RUNNING SCARED FROM THE NEWSIES AND MEWLING AND POUTING TO BE "REASONABLE" AND "MODERATE" FUCK THAT! d.
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 8:55:31 AM EDT
Because the republicans bend with the direction of the wind when it comes to gun control, I am going to vote for the democrats because at least they will always keep porn from getting banned.
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 9:05:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Imbrog|io: Because the republicans bend with the direction of the wind when it comes to gun control, I am going to vote for the democrats because at least they will always keep porn from getting banned.
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Sorry, bro...when Leiberman is President that's gone too [:(]
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 10:11:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By PowderBurns: We know what's wrong with the Demos, liberals. How about the GOP? Favors drug prosecution over drug abuse treatment.
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Nice troll, and I found this line the most objectionable. Why should any taxpayer be forced to pay for "drug abuse treatment"? People like to do drugs--it is a recreation for them. Why should I pay a cent to "cure" them, especially since so few really want to be cured of addiction. If you are addicted to drugs or alcohol the solution is easy: stop using them. GunLvr
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