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Posted: 6/2/2001 6:16:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/5/2001 6:15:44 AM EDT by EdAvilaSr]
[url]http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/jun/02/arnp060201.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 6:25:00 PM EDT
I'm afraid I'd have to fine these two little punks and permanently alter their appearance. Then the A.P. would find herself in the center of the biggest lawsuit I could pay an attorney to file. School him at home, like He!!. He'd have an ARMED escort if necessary. And threatening someone's life is a FELONY! Time to open the giant economy size BARREL of 'whoopass!'
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 6:25:07 PM EDT
I believe we need a few Houston members to go have a little "talk" with the two scummy perps, no? There was a time when bullshit like this would be taken care of, quickly and surely, and the two perps would be yes sir'ing that boy for the rest of the school year.
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 7:06:34 PM EDT
I beleive this link will explain what's going on with this story as well as some others currently going on on this board. I do not chose to participate in these discussions for reasons that are explained in the link. [url]http://www.secondamendment.net/whitney.html[/url]
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 7:09:05 PM EDT
Racism knows no color. the black and hispanic kid are not racist, but they are predjudiced. other then this i dont really know what to say. this is really outrageous and yet another reason i will never send my kids (if i ever have any) to a government indoctrination center. i dont want my kids to be taught how to hate. shocked lib
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 7:28:21 PM EDT
Wait a freakin minute lib!!! Those violent minority children are not racist? Are you crazy? These little bastards have gotten away with a brutal enough assault that it could be considered attempted murder and all because of a Confederate flag on a white kids book. That doesn't qualify to you as a "hate crime"?
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 7:37:38 PM EDT
to hatebreed: a racist is someone who believes that someone of a particular race or ethnic background is genetically inferior to themselves. a prejudiced person is someone who dislikes somebody, usually based on stereotype or bias. these two kids (the black and hispanic kids) did not show that they believed the white kid to be geneitcally inferior to themselves, but they certainly showed that they disliked him. he wore a confederate flag. they stereotyped him based on the belief that if you wear a confederate flag then you must be a racist. biased lib[:D]
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 7:41:53 PM EDT
I oppose hate crime laws because they criminalize thought. thought should never be against the law. freedom of thought is central to the principal of freespeach. violently attacking somebody is already against the law and obviously if an attacker does this then they hate whomever it is that they are beating. no person on this earth has a right to be liked. lib whom is free to love and hate
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 7:47:29 PM EDT
It is my firm belief that blacks and hispanics are more racist towards whites than whites are towards them. P.C. whites will go out of their way to extend every courtesy to a black or hispanic but it's rarely the other way around. The focus of the press on this story will be the fact that the kid had a confederate flag on a book he was carrying. By the time the liberal media is thru, it will be the white kids fault he got the hell beat out of him and the black & hispanic communities will be demanding an apologie for traumatizing those two kids who beat him. Of course Rev Sharpton will be involved. "There is nothing more painful to me than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then to look around and see someone white and feel relieved." Jesse Jackson, 1993
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 8:02:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2001 10:06:13 PM EDT by GoatBoy]
Here in Florida, many of the school busses have cameras installed. The maddest I have been in the last 3 years came from watching a news program. Yep. A news program sent me into a near rage that almost caused me to do something stupid. It was a 20 second story, out of Palatka, FL. It showed video from a school bus, of 10 black kids, in a line, taking turns whacking some poor little white kid in the head. One would give him a full 90 degree closed-fist punch to the head, the white kid would go down, get back up, and then the next negro would repeat the whole assault again. The kid kept getting up, trying to maintain some semblance of dignity, but there isn't much he could do in a situation like that. (I am getting mad just typing this) The news program concluded by saying the Black kids got 3 day suspensions, and the white kid transfered schools. The white kid transfered schools, and the black kids got 3 days suspension. The white kid transfered schools, and the black kids got 3 days suspension. The victim had to leave his school, because no one white person had the sack to deal with those fucking ******s. I was a phone call away from rounding up 10 of my white buddies, and putting the first negro we ran across in a god damn coma. Yeah, 10 of them. Not "just me". They are a pack-animal by nature, so I was fully prepared to dish it right back. But I didn't, and I regret it to this day. Now I have to log off and go punch somethig because thinking of that poor white kid puts me into a rage. [i]Removed offensive language[/i]
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 8:05:45 PM EDT
The flag of Dixie represents freedom. Those people were fighting for states rights. The new PC police are fomenting racial conflict based upon lies and deceit. That boy had every right to carry whatever book he wanted and should not have to fear for his safety, and we should be standing by his side protecting his rights. This used to be a free country. Fuck the liberal Nazis bastards.
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 8:40:48 PM EDT
Ok,this is really starting to piss me off. How many times do I have to sit here and listen to some jackass stick up in some way or another for some non white piece of shit just to make themselves feel better. Libertarian, maybe you werent trying to stick up for them, but it's funny to me how you will sit there and say that what the negro kids did wasn't racist because it doesn't fit your dictionarys definition of racism. What a crock of shit and you know it. If the color of the kids were turned around here, people would be crying bloody fucking murder. But no, somebody just has to make some kind of fucking excuse.
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 8:44:14 PM EDT
oOo, Would have loved to be one of your "10 buddies" if you went through with it. [beer]
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 8:49:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By o0o: I was a phone call away from rounding up 10 of my white buddies, and putting the first negro we ran across in a god damn coma.
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Easy big guy, easy. Use your brains, not your back..........
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 8:53:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Coltshooter: P.C. whites will go out of their way to extend every courtesy to a black or hispanic but it's rarely the other way around.
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i think thats the most racist thing in the world. here in iowa most people in my area havent seen a black guy other that on the freaking tv. they all pride themselves on being so "nonracist" but the fact is they look at other races like dogs, and thats why they seem so tolerant. i guess kinda a holyier than thou thing.
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 9:00:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2001 10:07:40 PM EDT by GoatBoy]
Stories like that one make me wish for an all out race war. I'm itching for some urban combat. 12 gauge and .308's ringing out across the city. ******s hooting and running crazy like through the streets. Swat and National Guard firing clearing out nests of **** ***s. I better stop now. [i]Removed Offensive Language[/i]
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 9:03:48 PM EDT
The only time I experienced overt racism was from a bunch of black kids. Maybe they were ignorant, but no whites have done so. White who didn't care for me just avoided me and thats fine. I can't understand why racism is considered only a oneway street.
Link Posted: 6/2/2001 9:09:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/2/2001 11:22:18 PM EDT
Hey goatboy...Would you ban someone or edit there reply if said honky or cracker? This aint a flame and other than this post I don't really forsee those words being used. But would you? Or are those non offensive words? Just curious. Seriously though, I do resent all the comments about being a klansman if you feel differently about a race issue. Not joking. I find those type of statements racially generalized and quite offensive. Will you be editing those?
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 3:43:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Coltshooter: I beleive this link will explain what's going on with this story as well as some others currently going on on this board. I do not chose to participate in these discussions for reasons that are explained in the link. [url]http://www.secondamendment.net/whitney.html[/url]
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Great read. I wish more "reporters" had the guts to say it. [i]“Nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion has drawn indelible lines of distinction between them.”[/i] Thomas Jefferson.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 5:47:35 AM EDT
Sorry about the racist insults, Goatboy. Won't happen again. Topics involving crimes commited by minorities against white kids just seems to push the wrong buttons in me.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 6:38:06 AM EDT
It won't be charged as a "Hate crime" because the victim was white. Now if it were two white kids beating on a hispanic or black, that is a "hate crime". Anything wrong with this?
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 8:46:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By hatebreed: Hey goatboy...Would you ban someone or edit there reply if said honky or cracker?
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Good point.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 10:08:07 AM EDT
Snot Rocket, You don’t owe anyone any apology, after reading what they did, I wanted to slide my knife deep into both of their bellies and slice their guts open and watch their entrails fall out on the ground. I am getting tired of people saying racist racist racist every time someone says something derogatory about a black or any other “minority”. I will tell you this if my sister was raped by a black I would not be telling the cops or anyone else that my sister was raped by “an African-American gentleman” I would say that my sister was raped be a d*mm N*ger. I would like to know what goat boy would say and do if his sister or someone he loved was raped or killed by a black man. Would he refer to him as an ”African-American gentleman” or would he use that other word, the one he seems to hate so much and is always threatening to lock threads and ban people over. When I am really ticked off at some one I use every nasty word I know. Sniper for Justice VINE AUT MORIRE “Conquer or Die”
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 10:29:52 AM EDT
Why can't you guys show your disdain for the system without predjudicing an entire race? Yeah, we have a double system all right. Minorities are cow-towed to here. I think that's BS. On the other hand, I heard a fed report 2 months ago that says proportionally, Blacks are prosecuted for hate crimes more than whites are. IE, prosections of hate crimes were 1/3 black, 2/3rds white, while blacks only account for 1 in 10 of the population. I think if the average African American knew that Hate Crimes were being prosecuted this way, they would not want them on the books. I really think that the BIG PROBLEM here is that when a black targets a white in a crime, the news merely "reports" an "incident." When a white hurts a black, it's a "race crime." Why wasn't this story front page news and 1st up on CNN, "Hate crime targets white person."????? BS.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 10:36:36 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 10:43:05 AM EDT
GOATBOY, I GOT YOUR POLITICAL CORRETNESS HANGING. IS THIS SITE DEDICATED TRUTH AND FREEDOM OR LIES AND DECEIT. AND ALL YOU IGNORANT ASSHOLES THAT KEEP TALKING LIES ABOUT GERMANY OF WW2 AND GUN CONTROL. THE TRUTH IS MOST OF THE LAWS THAT WHERE PASSED DURING 1915-1938 LIKE RESTRICTIONS ON AMOUNT OF FIREARMS YOU COULD OWN AND AMOUNT OF AMMUNITION YOU COULD HAVE AND LICENSING OF FIREARMS AND AGE LAWS WHERE ABOLISHED. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOVERNMENT ENCOURAGING CITIZEN TO HAVE FIREARMS NOT DISCOURAGING LIKE THIS GOVERNMENT IS. THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WHERE TAKING THE GUNS AWAY IN GERMANY BEFORE 1938 ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARY TRYING TO TAKE NOT ONLY ARE GUNS AWAY HERE BUT ARE FREEDOM OF THOUGHT TO. WHAT MINORITY IN GOVERNMENT AND IN THE MEDIA HAVE TAKEN THE LEAD IN PUSHING LICENSING AND EVENTUALLY ALL GUN BANS. THINK ABOUT IT. I SEEN SOMETHING INTERESTING THIS MORNING HOW THE NRA IS PUSHING FOR MASS IMMIGRATION. WITH FRIENDS LIKE THIS WHO NEEDS ENEMIES. CHI-RHO " A MAN WHO WOULD GIVE UP HIS FREEDOM FOR SECURITY, DOES NOT DESERVE FREEDOM OR SECURITY" "ONLY HE IS LOST, THAT GIVES HIMSELF UP FOR LOST"
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 10:49:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Ticonderoga: I heard a fed report 2 months ago that says proportionally, Blacks are prosecuted for hate crimes more than whites are. IE, prosections of hate crimes were 1/3 black, 2/3rds white, while blacks only account for 1 in 10 of the population. BS.
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Bullshit. Blacks might account for 1 in 10 of the population, but they commit crimes at rates many times that of whites. If hate crimes are being prosecuted at a ratio of 2/3rds white (which I do not believe, I am sure it is higher), whites are prosecuted at a rate many times greater than that of blacks for the crimes committed. Oh yeah, all hate crimes are part of the liberal, communist agenda to put down whitey. McUzi is right on with this. Some of you are so busy trying to convince everyone how much you love minorities (i.e. blacks) you refuse to see reality.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 11:03:34 AM EDT
Isn't it great that we live in a country where hurting somebody's feelings carries a stiffer punishment than physically injuring someone. I am guilty of carrying some pre-concieved notions about folks, some based on race, others based on social status, but I try not to pass ultimate judgement till I have more info. I have been lucky to have friends of races different than me, and enemies of the same race.I doubt that Ryan Oleichi will grow up to have an open mind, and I can't fault him for that. Don't be surprised when that kid exacts some revenge.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 11:31:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 12:03:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GoatBoy: It still is a bit disappointing to see so much anger towards a group of people when every group is just as bad as the next. -- GB
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GB, please showm me a news report, link to a broadcast, or whatever you may find where the circumstances were reversed (ie. anglos attacking minorities) and the reporting source did not call the attackers racist.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 12:05:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/3/2001 12:05:00 PM EDT by o0o]
Originally Posted By Ticonderoga: Why can't you guys show your disdain for the system without predjudicing an entire race? Yeah, we have a double system all right. Minorities are cow-towed to here. I think that's BS.
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Up to this point, you hade made a very valid point, and I thought I was going to be in for a real lesson. "Hate the system that placates to Negros, not the negros themselves" That is a very interesting way of looking at it, so I continued to read your post.
On the other hand, I heard a fed report 2 months ago that says proportionally, Blacks are prosecuted for hate crimes more than whites are. IE, prosections of hate crimes were 1/3 black, 2/3rds white, while blacks only account for 1 in 10 of the population. I think if the average African American knew that Hate Crimes were being prosecuted this way, they would not want them on the books. I really think that the BIG PROBLEM here is that when a black targets a white in a crime, the news merely "reports" an "incident." When a white hurts a black, it's a "race crime." Why wasn't this story front page news and 1st up on CNN, "Hate crime targets white person."????? BS
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...but by the time I was done reading, you had me right back at square one with my method of thinking. Everything past the first few sentences was a joke.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 12:07:27 PM EDT
One more thing, if white are just as bad as every other minority, why are the majority of crimes committed by blacks? None of this "In the past the whites did blah, blah, blah,..." crap! Currently blacks commit most of the crimes, how does that fact make whites as bad as black?!?!
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 12:23:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GoatBoy: It still is a bit disappointing to see so much anger towards a group of people when every group is just as bad as the next. -- GB
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If, as you say, every group is as bad as the next, then could you please explain to me why cities with large black and/or Hispanic populations have the highest crime rates in the country? Baltimore, Washington D.C., and Atlanta, (to name but a few), all have a majority of blacks and all have some of the highest murder rates in the nation. While I don't think that all blacks are murderous, welfare-receiving, crack-dealing POS, there do seem to be an inordinately large percentage of them that fit this bill. This I feel is a cultural problem that has as it's root the high rate of illegitimate child births. Mothers that are 15 years old, grandmothers that are 30 and great-grandmothers that are 45. One generation after the other that slips further and further down the ladder. Add to this the welfare system that provides them with a monthly check, food stamps, free healthcare, and greatly reduced rent or mortgage payments. And all you have to do to get this is ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING! Actually, if they do try and pull themselves up out of the system, their benefits are cut. So where in the hell is the incentive? There is none so they stay on the dole and pass this way of life down from one generation to the next. Until the black population starts taking responsibility for itself and stops blaming all their problems on long dead slave owners, their lot will never improve. If they can't help themselves, then they have nobody to blame but themselves.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 12:30:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By o0o: I was a phone call away from rounding up 10 of my white buddies, and putting the first negro we ran across in a god damn coma.
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My question is, why perpetuate hate? Even if we accepted your view as gospel, there would be black people who were anomalies to your theory... decent, law-abiding, productive, black members of society. What if the first black person you ran across was one of those aberrations to your ideology? I would even have gone so far as to understand why you would track down one of the actual kids that was involved.... but vigilante acts rarely achieve their intended goal.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 12:38:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/3/2001 12:41:37 PM EDT by o0o]
Originally Posted By Miss Magnum:
Originally Posted By o0o: I was a phone call away from rounding up 10 of my white buddies, and putting the first negro we ran across in a god damn coma.
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My question is, why perpetuate hate? Even if we accepted your view as gospel, there would be black people who were anomalies to your theory... decent, law-abiding, productive, black members of society. What if the first black person you ran across was one of those aberrations to your ideology? I would even have gone so far as to understand why you would track down one of the actual kids that was involved.... but vigilante acts rarely achieve their intended goal.
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That's akin to saying "Why hate the entire ATF because of the acts of Lon Horiucchi (The sniper who killed Randy Weavers unarmed wife) Why kill Vietnamese soldiers whop may be good people because of 1 man, Ho-Chi-Mihn- Why shoot that 18 year old Nazi because Hitler is a bad man... Fact is, when you are born, you belong to a club. It's called your "race"- Whether you like it or not, human nature dictates that we stick to our own kind. This is why little "De-segragation" plans have never worked. White people don't want a bunch of "neggro's" living next to them, and Negro's don't want to live amongst a bunch of stuffed-shirt crackers. Point is, if I had gone and done it, it would have been vengance for my "race"- Not for the kid.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 12:40:16 PM EDT
Blacks are clearly the problem in our society. Why do you think the term White Flight is becoming so common. All the whites are leaving the cities and moving to areas where there are no blacks. The town im in is 60% black and 10 years ago it was only 40%. Once they have the voting power they tax the living hell out of you to take care of all the people in the projects. I have no problem with blacks in general , but I damn sure don't wanna them in my neighborhood for the safetly of my family. I also don't want them using their voting power to make me take care of them. Sorry Im just really pissed at the way things are right now.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 12:43:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By o0o: Point is, if I had gone and done it, it would have been vengance for my "race"- Not for the kid.
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Then I suppose I misunderstood the source of your anger.. I elevated it to the status of looking out for someone who couldn't fend for himself. As a member of your "race," I respectfully request to take care of my own fights.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 12:47:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Miss Magnum: Then I suppose I misunderstood the source of your anger.. I elevated it to the status of looking out for someone who couldn't fend for himself. As a member of your "race," I respectfully request to take care of my own fights.
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So you are saying you would have gone and done it?? Because frankly, folks of our "race" are too busy kissing negro's asses instead of punishing them for the shit they do.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 1:00:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By o0o: So you are saying you would have gone and done it?? Because frankly, folks of our "race" are too busy kissing negro's asses instead of punishing them for the shit they do.
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Obviously you don't know me very well... [:D] I had a really bad history of fighting.. generally fighting guys.. and generally because they were picking on or trying to take advantage of someone who couldn't defend themselves. If I had been present when that happened, heck yes, I would have been throwing down in the thick of it. Would I have taken that incident and let it color my feelings about other people who weren't even there? Nah.. I'm just not like that.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 1:22:31 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 1:26:22 PM EDT
How can you compare tax evasion or money laundering to violent crimes? Personally I think these are just the response to govt intrusion into our finances.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 1:37:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Sniper_762x51: Snot Rocket, You don’t owe anyone any apology, after reading what they did, I wanted to slide my knife deep into both of their bellies and slice their guts open and watch their entrails fall out on the ground. I am getting tired of people saying racist racist racist every time someone says something derogatory about a black or any other “minority”. I will tell you this if my sister was raped by a black I would not be telling the cops or anyone else that my sister was raped by “an African-American gentleman” I would say that my sister was raped be a d*mm N*ger. I would like to know what goat boy would say and do if his sister or someone he loved was raped or killed by a black man. Would he refer to him as an ”African-American gentleman” or would he use that other word, the one he seems to hate so much and is always threatening to lock threads and ban people over. When I am really ticked off at some one I use every nasty word I know. Sniper for Justice VINE AUT MORIRE “Conquer or Die”
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Your sister probably sends out invitations and gives green stamps. GoatBoy is not the problem here; people like you, Snot Rocket and the Assistant Principle are the problem. You state "...wanted to slide my knife deep into both of their bellies and slice their guts open and watch their entrails fall on the ground." The perpetrators need to be punished but the punishment should fit the crime. I see no Justice or justification in disemboweling them. Suppose the leos that came to your sisters aid were of the same race as her rapist. How hard would they try to catch her attacker if you used the language that you said you would use? You are as corrupt and perverted as the assistant principal that instigated this whole sorry mess.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 1:40:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GoatBoy: My point is that whites commit crimes as often as blacks. The difference is that these crimes are usually in different categories such as embezzlements, laundering, tax evasion, Mafia hits, fraud, etc. And please don't say that those crimes don't hurt anyone because stealing from a company causes jobs to be lost, companies to go under, and leads to more unemployment and unsteadiness in people's lives. -- GB
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OK, Embezzling; stealing is stealing regardless of race or income class. Tax evasion; there shouldn't be "income tax" so I do not feel tax evasion is a crime. Money laundering; chances are the money is from something the govt. deems inappropriate and hence (unconstitutionally) unlawful. If it is from "Mafia hits" then I agree that is wrong, but from selling narcotics, or selling illegal firearms then more power to them! I feel that a crime is only committed when someone is hurt or their rightful possessions stolen or harmed. Blacks cause more violent crime then whites. Blacks (as a whole) are the problem when it comes to crime. This is not a statement from a "racist" but merely an obvious observation.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 1:41:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By gunmonkey: Isn't it great that we live in a country where hurting somebody's feelings carries a stiffer punishment than physically injuring someone. I am guilty of carrying some pre-concieved notions about folks, some based on race, others based on social status, but I try not to pass ultimate judgement till I have more info. I have been lucky to have friends of races different than me, and enemies of the same race.I doubt that Ryan Oleichi will grow up to have an open mind, and I can't fault him for that. Don't be surprised when that kid exacts some revenge.
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Well put gunmonkey.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 1:49:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GoatBoy: such as embezzlements, laundering, tax evasion, Mafia hits, fraud, etc. And please don't say that those crimes don't hurt -- GB
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With all due respect GB, I would not be all that afraid to let my wife walk down the street in a neighborhood full of tax cheats. While on the other hand, I would not her even DRIVE through a heavily black populated area. While there are a few good conservative black people out there, CavVet and Rich314 come to mind, the majority of black people that I come in contact with have a great hatred of whites. They are also much more likely to commit VIOLENT crimes against whites. (AS WELL AS THEIR OWN KIND!) When I was a child, my parents (hardcore liberals at the time) made me read Malcolm X's autobiography and other far-left propoganda. I went to the finest schools in a very upper class suburban area of NJ. Hell, I hadn't even met a black person up until I decided to visit my dad at work one day. (My grandparents owned a retail establishment in Orange, NJ a real ghetto like environment). I was about 10 or 11 and I was walking down the street from the bus stop and a bunch of black "youth" pushed me into an alley and beat the piss out of me and stole my bus fare. All the while screaming ignorant racial comments about whites. This was a life changing event for me. I finally made it back to my dad's store and told him what had happened. He said that it "was to be expected" from "them" because they had grown up in a bad area, had no future, were opressed by white people for centuries, etc... My grandfather intervened and told me that my dad had been held up the prior year by a black savage who held a shotgun to his head while screaming that he was "going to blow his honky head off". My grandfather told me that there was no excuse for savage behavior and that we did not "owe anyone" for this claimed "opression". (He kinda thought that years of government welfare given to the blacks had taken care of any "debt") He showed me a shotgun that he had purchased to defend his store and home which REALLY pissed off my anti-gun parents [:D]. Bottom line. I became an ultra conservative gunloving nut that day [}:D] and have never looked back since. If and when I personnaly encounter a black person who is a conservative, decent person, I will extend my hand in friendship. But.... I sincerely doubt that this will happen since I live in the stink pool that we refer to as New Jersey. Footnote to my long and boring story: (I ended up converting my father by constantly tuning all of his radios to the local radio station that carries Rush Limbaugh. He now votes conservative and even comes to the range once in a while)
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 1:51:33 PM EDT
Oh boy, here we go. Ok, I see both points, and they both have validity. According to the FBI report I saw, of the crimes prosecuted in America last year (enhanced penalties for race, etc) 1/3 of those were African American prosecutions. Since they make up only 10% of the population they are getting a good share of the Hate Crimes prosecution. While trying not to talk out of both sides of my mouth, I do realize (according to the FBI's own statistics) that the majority of violent crime in America is committed by African Americans. (I know thats hard to swallow for many liberals and our own folks with their heads in the sand.) So, with this in mind maybe African Americans suffer less under hate crimes legislation. This was not the point of my argument. I was merely saying that the NAACP and it's "constituents" would probably be more opposed to Hate Crimes legislation if they found out that 1/3rd of all hate crimes prosecutions were against blacks. THERE IS NO REASON to throw insults to make a point. When one makes a logical and intelligent arugment about race in this country and then throws in the word "nigger," all it does is make that person look like a narrow minded nazi. When race relations are argued in a non-inflamatory, non-insulting way, we never lose the arguement. When you start ranting, you sound like the Hollywood stereotype Southern acist looking to "lynch a coon," or the "neo-nazi skinhead" looking to torch a synagogue.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 2:08:23 PM EDT
All I have to say is: What are we gonna do when the liberal fucks in this former Republic elect Sharpie Sharpton to the office of President??? [img]newmedia.jrn.columbia.edu/1997/projects/Project_4/civil_rights/sharpton/sharpton_change.gif[/img] Bottom Line: 99% of Blacks are VIOLENT PREDATORS.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 2:11:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/3/2001 2:11:51 PM EDT
Ed, Please reread my post, I did not say or infer that I support the harming of any random black or anyone else for what one individual does. I just meant that I did not like the fact that being angry and using one of those words in anger is reason enough to be banned or have a tread locked. It is completely understandable at least it is to me, to use these words in anger. How about when people use these words when they are ticked off at someone; a fat tub of lard, fat pig, fat motherf**ker, four eyed piece of crap, white trash, trailer trash, freak, red neck, d*mm Yankee etc, etc. Someone posted here about the no good liberals, Democrats, and Yankees, I am a Yankee and I should take that as an insult but the person who posted this was not threatened with being banned, Is it ok to insult the way a person looks, the fact they happen to live in a trailer, and what part of the country they come from but don’t you dare use one of those racial slurs. Another time when Goatboy threatening someone with being banned it was because a Vietnam Vet used racial slurs about Asians and explained why he hated them and it was because of what they did to our people over there in Vietnam. And I have a very good friend who lost a good friend to the viciousness of the Japanese during the Batann Death March. Why should I or anyone else worry about hurting the feelings of people who run a tank or truck over our soldiers, or use them for medical experiments since we Americans and every other non Japanese are inferior. I have just had it with all the self righteousness about calling people a racist. For one thing I am not or at least I never was a racist before. I don’t hate anyone just because of their color or what country they come from, I try to only judge people by what they do. But when a large number of a group of people cause trouble whether this is a group made up of members of a club like a bike club or even the Masons, it is only normal to start to consider the entire group as people to watch out for and to fear. This is perfectly normal human behavior. We gun owners like to say that the democrats are the enemy but not all democrats are bad or anti gun, just as all Republicans are not are friends. People are placed into groups all the time, we gun owners are all dangerous according to the anti gunners, all blacks are mud people according to people like the Klan, and I am a no good rapist motorcyclist, according to the non bikers who watched too many news stories about the “Bad Bikers”. I was even rode over with and trampled on by horses just because I rode one of those big Harleys. So I am also in a minority group “Bikers”, plus a gun owner.
Link Posted: 6/3/2001 2:12:27 PM EDT
And one last point, there is a great deal of difference between a real racist or someone who always uses racial slurs when talking about people, you know what I mean, like, I was talking to this Ni**er at work and he told me that he wished the company would get the air conditioning fixed, and this one, the rotten Ni**er threw a rock though my car window the other day. One is not justifiable and one is. Look there is nothing wrong with not letting people turn this forum into a bigots forum, but when a person is truly angry at a individual member of a minority you should be understanding and not threaten to ban them. This is my point that I wish you to understand. I don’t want to see racial slurs and filthy language in every post but we need to be understanding about people who have a very good reason to hate someone or a group of people. By the way the guy who hated Asians was in a tread about what would happen if China invaded the USA. And banning people is what the other side does like the Democratic Underground to shut people up instead of discussing the issues with them. Oh and thanks Ed for giving me the WASP I have been looking for a real good slur that I could use about myself, I am a half breed English and Portuguese and except for Limey and Greenhorn I couldn’t think of a good nasty sounding one to use. It isn’t fair that all the good slurs have been already taken, but at least now I can use WASP. I am a WASP and darn proud of it. If I was Catholic like most Portuguese I would not be able to use WASP so I guess I just got lucky for once.
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