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3/20/2017 5:03:23 PM
Posted: 5/30/2001 11:26:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/30/2001 12:29:04 PM EDT by EdAvilaSr]
If you are into that kind of thing....I'm down with that, I don't care! But, I come here to learn more about my hobby and my wife doesn't particularly care for the photos that continue to show up.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:29:43 AM EDT
i agree.the place is starting to turn into another ak47dotnet.mmk
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:30:45 AM EDT
Yes, I agree. We must stress the importance of the hobby granted to us in the 2nd Amendment.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:31:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By bwilder10h: But, I come here to learn more about my hobby and my wife doesn't particularly care for the photos that continue to show up.
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I'll second THAT emotion. Frankly, I'd prefer posters here show some adultness, and respect for others and simply regulate themselves. But if they REFUSE to, you don't leave me other options than to whine to the mods.... "A man that is a law unto himself need not have others enforce the law against him..."
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:31:31 AM EDT
Don't look if it bothers you. The thread specifically mentions babes in the title. Show some self control and your eyes won't be offended.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:34:44 AM EDT
MMMMMMMM. porn.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:35:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/30/2001 11:33:17 AM EDT by Gloftoe]
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:35:49 AM EDT
Here we go again.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:36:33 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:36:55 AM EDT
That isn't the point, if we wanted porn we would go to www.pussy.com or www.wetnastysluts.com, etc.... What people are here for is serious discussion focused on ar's not T&A, it is detracting from the focus of the site.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:37:59 AM EDT
Nudity is not Porn,its Artwork. As long as they are not posting graphic pictures of intercourse I say leave it alone. I would sugest that the moderators remove anything past a certain point but a little bit of nudity never hurt anybody.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:38:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By critter_FR: Don't look if it bothers you. The thread specifically mentions babes in the title. Show some self control and your eyes won't be offended.
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It's not that I'm offended by it. It's the fact that I have to weed out the trash to get to the things I would like to know about or things that are important about our cause. All I'm saying is, if you want to look at that kind of thing.... fine! Go to the sites that support that type of thing. Don't do it here unless you plan on changing the name to www.ar15xxx.com.[0:)]
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:39:45 AM EDT
I can appreciate what bwilder10h is saying. I, more than anyone, can appreciate a beautiful woman, especially if she's naked. And if you're into porn, there is a time and a place for everything. This is not the place for it. For those that say, "well if you don't like it, don't look at it." I believe justifications like that are poor and we need to be sensitive to the requests and needs of all ar15.comers. You can get porn anywhere, but you can't find a place like ar15.com anywhere. They may not say anything, but I believe that it is also very disrespectful of the female ar15.comers that may be involved in the site. Just my opinion, ptp
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:39:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SPORTSMANS SUPPLY: Nudity is not Porn,its Artwork. As long as they are not posting graphic pictures of intercourse I say leave it alone. I would sugest that the moderators remove anything past a certain point but a little bit of nudity never hurt anybody.
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I'll buy that! However, people don't seem to know where to draw the line.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:43:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SPORTSMANS SUPPLY: Nudity is not Porn,its Artwork. As long as they are not posting graphic pictures of intercourse I say leave it alone. I would sugest that the moderators remove anything past a certain point but a little bit of nudity never hurt anybody.
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What a crock. If you are NOT sexually aroused by "nudity" I'm guessing you have other "issues." Artwork. What a crock.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:45:01 AM EDT
Did garandman say he wanted posters of adultresses?
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:45:42 AM EDT
I kind of agree with bwilder10h to a point. I hate rules but we sure don't want to offend any body unless they are a Gungrabber or Walmart Lover. I am too dumb to figure out how to post pictures so I just enjoy the Artwork. I really don't want to see anything nasty and I am sure most of the guys posting pictures are just having some fun with it and mean no harm.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:48:23 AM EDT
Let's cover some simple truths here. First of all, photos hosted on other servers do not soak up bandwidth or tax this server in any way. 2nd, the thread which I believe has started this hub bub was designed to get lots of views, and hopefully, raise some money to support this site. My observations of this general discussion section have shown that mentions of babes get the most thread views. Sex sells, on here, just like anywhere. 3rd, the tile of the thread mentions babes, specifically. There is nothing to weed through. You look at the title, if you don't like babes, don't look. That's simple enough, isn't it? 4th, this is the general discussion forum. If you're here to learn more about your "hobby" then you should be on the "Build it yourself", Reloading", "Competiton" or any of the other forums which deal SPECIFICALLY with the subject you are looking to learn more about, no? All of the arguments against the slightly nude pics are just excuses to bitch. None of them hold any water. So go ahead, keep bitching. It only makes you look silly.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:49:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By BusMaster007: Did garandman say he wanted posters of adultresses?
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I think they say it affects your eyesight (and ability to read) first.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:50:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/30/2001 11:50:09 AM EDT by SPORTSMANS SUPPLY]
lighten up Garandman. You have your views and I respect them so whats wrong with me posting my views. I don't have any Issues and it was rude and inconsiderate of you to sugest that I do. I don't mean to start A Flame war with you so don't take this post that way. Have yourself a nice day!!!!!
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:51:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/30/2001 11:51:56 AM EDT by Racer-X]
I think that a link to some smut is cool or if the thread title has a warning in it, it's cool to post a picture, but only in the general discussion forum. Dedicated serious firearms discussion has plenty of room in the specific forums (mag, cleaning, upper, lowers, etc.). The reason there is a “General” forum is so we can let loose and talk about un-related (to firearms) issues with people who hold a common interest and for the most part common beliefs. If that conversation is about boobies, cars, why we hate our jobs or shooting cats, so be it.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:53:20 AM EDT
VARIETY IS THE SPICE OF LIFE....I THOUGHT
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:54:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Darin Marple: What people are here for is serious discussion focused on ar's not T&A, it is detracting from the focus of the site.
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Ok I just have to point out you are in the GENERAL Section. If you want a serious discussion about AR's pick one of the SERIOUS sections we post there as well. Hunter out...
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:55:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:55:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SPORTSMANS SUPPLY: lighten up Garandman. You have your views and I respect them so whats wrong me me posting my views. I don't have any Issues and it was rude and inconsiderate of you to sugest that I do. I don't mean to start A Flame war with you so don't take this post that way. Have yourself a nice day!!!!!
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Ok, let me ask a direct question then - Do you agree that MOST males when they see nudity think sex???? (I think if you are honest with me, you'll agree that nudity = sexuality) If so, then public nudity (ala pics on this site) is only a degree of pornography. And unnecessary on this site.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:55:36 AM EDT
I am up for porn as much as the next guy. That being said I come to this site from work and if we keep posting this trash I am gonna get in trouble. There really is no good reason to post nudity on this site. Plenty of other places to see it.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:59:04 AM EDT
This is General Discussion...anything goes.....
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 11:59:52 AM EDT
I'm all for ATF A lcohol T itties F irearms But this is not my site.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:03:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AR_Rifle: This is General Discussion...anything goes.....
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Anything goes....until I get banned from this site at work because of the "content". Then it's not all fun and games.........
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:04:35 PM EDT
It’s up to the site owner, and I think the stated policy is no nudity. I for one also agree this is not the place for nudity and/or pornographic material, there are other web sites at your disposal for that sort of thing. If you feel the need to share, post the link and a warning, that way people really can choose where or not they want to view it. It’s kind of hard to police what you’re looking at when people simply post the picture in a thread. Now show a little respect for one another. RK [NI]
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:04:41 PM EDT
Garandman, I'll answer your direct question with a yes, most guys think sex when they see nudity. I do too. I agree its unnessary but I hate see a bunch rules put down on us. I do see your point.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:06:45 PM EDT
Originally posted by bwilder10h : Anything goes....until I get banned from this site at work because of the "content". Then it's not all fun and games.........
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Those Nazi Bastards! How dare they expect you to actually do the job your paid to do! What next, set hour for you to be there?
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:08:15 PM EDT
I saw the thread and chose not to click on it but if my wife or children saw it I would have some real explaining to do. I know it’s Ed’s site and he can do what he wants with it but I don’t have to stick around while the site fills up with foul language and porn. Is this now a gun and porn site? THISISME
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:09:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/30/2001 12:08:18 PM EDT by M4]
Oh the HORROR, the inexplicable HORROR of the nude female form! In the name of god, please end this cruel nightmare!!! After reading page after page firearms topics, to catch a glimps, though so brief, of a nude female form shocks me to my very soul!! My eyes burn, my thoughts turn impure......salvation is my only hope! Oh magnificent ones, spare us these most grotesque of gods creations, and banish all who dare post such blasphemy in to the sinful depths of Sodom forever! The nude female form is only here to temp us, to make us stray from our narrow paths of rightiousness, we MUST not allow it!!!
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:09:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SPORTSMANS SUPPLY: Garandman, I agree its unnessary but I hate see a bunch rules put down on us. I do see your point.
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And THAT is why i said in my first post in this thread that i MUCH PREFER that posters here regulate themselves, RATHER THAN having the mods step in. But apparently, some posters think its their God-given, Constitutional right to post the nudies, no matter what ANYONE thinks. The 1,248th Amendment, or something like that. Point of reference - I've toned down my religious / Christian posts in deference to non-religious folks. Its interesting that they basically REFUSE to show any similar courtesy to me. Dontcha think????
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:09:39 PM EDT
When I view nude women, I see only milk producing mamory glands used for feeding infants, and the GLORY of the Birth Canal[:D]
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:11:13 PM EDT
I have loved the female body (extensively) my entire life. [b]But....................................[/b] I think it quite juvenille for grown men to get their giggles and $hits by posting nudity at the rate it has been seen herein as of late. In addition, the last two times I pulled up something that was not readily identified as sexual in content my wife walked into the office and caught me red-handed (no......not literally). I am a grown man and don't get in "trouble" so easily but it took some degree of explaining to get her to understand what happened. Now......thats enough crying and moaning. I think the moderators need to get their cahones back and live up to the standards we all agreed to when we signed up. Just my 02
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:13:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/30/2001 12:25:30 PM EDT by EdAvilaSr]
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:13:28 PM EDT
MEN have thoughts of a sexual nature on something of the order of every few seconds. It's our nature. MEN are DOGS. WOOF! I do agree with most of you to an extent. Links and warnings are and should be required on the AR15.com site. AND--- There are places to go visit to get the "graphics" should you happen to want to go there. Lest this site be known as AR15.cum , HEAVEN forbid...
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:14:39 PM EDT
As a courtesy to you and others who might be offended, I posted a clear warning on the thread title. And there are no graphic images portraying sexual acts. What seems to be the problem? If you wanted to start a thread about a religious subject, and aptly titled it, I certainly wouldn't complain about it. We are human beings, blessed with free will to choose for ourselves what we do. No one forced anyone's mouse to click on my thread. Now if you'r complaining about nude photos inserted into threads on other subjects, then you have a valid complaint.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:22:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By critter_FR: As a courtesy to you and others who might be offended, I posted a clear warning on the thread title. And there are no graphic images portraying sexual acts. What seems to be the problem?
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The "problem" is that teh pics are in CLEAR violation of the rules of participation in this forum. NOT my rules, but the rules of the guy who pays the bills here. It is teh ANTi that only abides by rules that he agrees with. Critter - I agree with your posts 95% of the time. You have good political, firearms, and Constitutional insights. When you post the nudies (even with warnings in teh title of the thread) I lose out on your good insights. Your "Do Your Part" thread is a good one, that I have to avoid in deferrence to my wife. and THAT is bad for the server fund, and therefore , ALL of us.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:22:59 PM EDT
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted By AR_Rifle: This is General Discussion...anything goes..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anything goes....until I get banned from this site at work because of the "content". Then it's not all fun and games.........
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1- You shouldn't surf the net while at work. You get ban, blame yourself. 2- You don't have to open it up, you got that right. 3- This is Free Speech. Remember Larry Flynn VS the U.S.? He won. 4- You are a hypocrite, you jump on the Gov. for infringing into your rights to do this and to bear that, yet you are telling us what to post or not to post?
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:25:01 PM EDT
I have to side with the no porn guys. Even "soft" nudity is inappropriate for this site. Why? 1) Not everyone on here is an adult. There may be kids on this board who like to shoot or have parents that do. Nothing prevents them from being exposed to nudity or worse. 2) There are at least a few women on this board. One of the biggest reasons that more women don't enjoy shooting is cause of the attitude displayed by many male shooters, particularly if that attitude is overbearingly macho or juvenile. Wives, too get put off by this stuff. 3) The best reason of all: Some scout from Handgun Control or Million Mom's will be scouring this site for dirt and come up with the idead that we are not just bloodthirsty gun maniacs, but sex fiends as well. The your AR15.com will get attention from people you don't necessarily care for poking around your stuff looking for dirt. There is absolutely nothing about porn, hard or soft, artistic or not, that contrbiutes to the welfare or reputation of this board. On the contrary, post after post with nude chicks may well be used to diminish the reputation of gun owners that we seek to create, the image of decent, well adjusted people who simply enjoy the shooting sports. You want naked chicks, fine, there are plenty of other places to find them. Save this place for the guns.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:26:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AR_Rifle: 1- You shouldn't surf the net while at work. You get ban, blame yourself. 2- You don't have to open it up, you got that right. 3- This is Free Speech. Remember Larry Flynn VS the U.S.? He won. 4- You are a hypocrite, you jump on the Gov. for infringing into your rights to do this and to bear that, yet you are telling us what to post or not to post?
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1. fair enuf. 2. You don't HAVE to post it. You got that right. 3. Speech involves WORDS. I don't care WHAT the Supreme Court says. 4. No one is TELLING you what to do, other than the mods. Its THEIR site. Private property. Where all kinds of unCOnstitutional things happen. Deal with it.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:28:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/30/2001 12:27:15 PM EDT by critter_FR]
Originally Posted By garandman:
Originally Posted By critter_FR: As a courtesy to you and others who might be offended, I posted a clear warning on the thread title. And there are no graphic images portraying sexual acts. What seems to be the problem?
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The "problem" is that teh pics are in CLEAR violation of the rules of participation in this forum. NOT my rules, but the rules of the guy who pays the bills here. It is teh ANTi that only abides by rules that he agrees with. Critter - I agree with your posts 95% of the time. You have good political, firearms, and Constitutional insights. When you post the nudies (even with warnings in teh title of the thread) I lose out on your good insights. Your "Do Your Part" thread is a good one, that I have to avoid in deferrence to my wife. and THAT is bad for the server fund, and therefore , ALL of us.
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I didn't realize that nude photos were verboten. I thought the ban was only on sexually explicit material. My mistake. I did make a "G" Rated version of "Do your part" though. Now a question. If it said hot babes in the title, why did you look? Be honest now. Remember, thou shalt not bear false witness. [:)]
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:28:29 PM EDT
If it weren't for the occasional pictures of nude hotties now and then, some of us would probably not be motivated enough to have sex with our wives. In fact, my wife said the same thing to me the other day... Hey, wait a minute!
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:29:21 PM EDT
this post isn't about whether pics should be allowed or not. this message is addressed to critter. i believe you have contradicted yourself. you stated that no one has to weed through any pictures to get to the point of the post. that is so not true, and it applies to YOUR post. i had to "weed" through the pics of the ladies to find your point: mainly, ante up and help the site out. that you put a warning in the title doesn't mean crap if there's a valid message in your post that i want to read and i actually have to look at pics to get to your message. a link would have been acceptable. i can choose not to click it. but in order to get to your point, i had to see those pictures.
Originally posted by Critter_FR: Now if you'r complaining about nude photos inserted into threads on other subjects, then you have a valid complaint.
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well, then, i guess many here have a valid complaint!
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 12:31:17 PM EDT
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