Opinions on buying this gun

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Posted: 5/30/2001 6:58:59 AM EDT

M1 Garand sold by Big 5 Sporting Goods:

"'M-1 Garand' Authentic World War II"
".30-06 Sporter Rifle"
"This Military Issue Rifle is in truly Excellent condition with a New Receiver!"
"Limited Quantities"
"Big 5 Sale Price: $549.99"

Going to check it out today or tommorrow. Sound like a rip-off?

(P.S. I'm well aware of the DCM garand sales, but I'm not sacrificing my pheasant hunt season to have my ass beat at a rifle competition and then be arrested for possessing an assault rifle. [Here in CA, they don't care about pre-ban/post-ban!])

Posted: 5/30/2001 7:06:29 AM EDT

[#1]

"NEW" receiver? Definitly NOT G.I., and therefore of very dubious quality unless (MAYBE) receiver is made by Fulton Armory. If the rifle is not ALL G.I. its collector value is limited only to the G.I. parts it does contain. The rifle won't appreciate in value as an all G.I. would, I'd pass it up for much less than the quoted price. Go CMP.

Posted: 5/30/2001 7:07:39 AM EDT

[#2]

Fulton Armory MAKES Garand receivers? When did this start?

Posted: 5/30/2001 7:08:43 AM EDT

[#3]

DO NOT buy a Garand that is on a "new receiver" no matter who made it for any more than $350.00.

Any Garand that has been cut on should be considered a shooter and nothing more. If the rifle were original that would be a good price.
Otherwise, for that price stay away....

Posted: 5/30/2001 7:09:47 AM EDT

[#4]

Be afraid. Be VERY afraid.

They claim its "authentic WWII" AND that it has a "new receiver??"

They don't even lie very well.

Probably one of those Century receivers. NO WAY its a fulton Armory ANYTHING, based solely on price.

Why pay $549 to them, when you can pay CMP $500 , and get a true Garand???

Posted: 5/30/2001 7:13:58 AM EDT

[#5]

Originally Posted By world wolf:

(P.S. I'm well aware of the DCM garand sales, but I'm not sacrificing my pheasant hunt season to have my ass beat at a rifle competition and then be arrested for possessing an assault rifle. [Here in CA, they don't care about pre-ban/post-ban!])

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First, you only have to shoot ONE match (that's ONE Saturday expended) to qualify for a CMP Garand.

Second, NO WAY the Garand is an assault rifle. No pistol grip, no detach mag, no flash suppressor. And to my knowledge, Commiefornia hasn't passed any legislation outlawing the Garand specifically. In fact, many sellers specifically name the Garnd as a viable alternative for POW's in Commiefornia.

Posted: 5/30/2001 7:18:50 AM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:

Originally Posted By world wolf:

(P.S. I'm well aware of the DCM garand sales, but I'm not sacrificing my pheasant hunt season to have my ass beat at a rifle competition and then be arrested for possessing an assault rifle. [Here in CA, they don't care about pre-ban/post-ban!])

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First, you only have to shoot ONE match (that's ONE Saturday expended) to qualify for a CMP Garand.

Second, NO WAY the Garand is an assault rifle. No pistol grip, no detach mag, no flash suppressor. And to my knowledge, Commiefornia hasn't passed any legislation outlawing the Garand specifically. In fact, many sellers specifically name the Garnd as a viable alternative for POW's in Commiefornia.

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Only DCM rifle I got is an AR, and it dosn't matter what I do to the grip, it will always be an assault rifle according to Lockyer. Changed the grip, thought I was fine, then found out after it was too late to register that ALL AR15s are illegal in CA, no matter what bells and whistles they're missing.

Posted: 5/30/2001 7:34:01 AM EDT

[#7]

Originally Posted By world wolf:
Only DCM rifle I got is an AR, and it dosn't matter what I do to the grip, it will always be an assault rifle according to Lockyer. Changed the grip, thought I was fine, then found out after it was too late to register that ALL AR15s are illegal in CA, no matter what bells and whistles they're missing.

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An AR15 [size=6] IS NOT [/size=6] a Garand.

Different caliber, different era, different function, different everything.

The Garand IS legal in Cali. I'm QUITE sure.

Posted: 5/30/2001 7:34:54 AM EDT

[#8]

[url]www.odcmp.com[/url]

Posted: 5/30/2001 7:55:28 AM EDT

[#9]

The Garand does NOT have a detachable magazine. This is the key. That is why the only "AR Style" rifle legal in Kali has a fixed 10 round mag and is loaded from the top by stripper clips after breaking the rifle like a shotgun.

Only buy genuine Garands. They are Springfield Armory and Winchester(WW2 Production) and Harrington & Richardson and International Harvester(Post WW2 Production). These are the ONLY genuine Garands.

There is talk of Springfield Armory again producing Garands but they might just be building kits on "new" receivers from Century like everyone else. Springfield has already gone this route on their "new" SAR8 rifles.

The Garands on "new" receivers are a pipe bomb on a stock. DO NOT BUY ONE, THEY ARE PURE SHIT. Get the real thing, CMP is the best deal going and it won't last forever. Get in line or lose.

Posted: 5/30/2001 8:09:00 AM EDT

[#10]

Steyr,
Strange you should mention that, I just got off the phone with Springfield Armory. Their rep advised me they are coming out with that rifle sometime this fall. He said it would be brand new, he was very adamant that it would not have one used part on it.

Posted: 5/30/2001 8:20:08 AM EDT

[#11]

WTF is an authentic World War II sporter?

Posted: 5/30/2001 8:43:00 AM EDT

[#12]

ww-

These are the Century receivered Garands. The are POSs. They are not weapon, they are a hazard to any shooter's health who fires one. Do not buy one. If you're hard-headed and don't listen to what myself and others are saying, and you buy one anyway, so be it. You WILL regret it. If you're lucky, you may be able to get $250 out of it when you sell it off, and you will want to get rid of it, because it sucks. Can't state that forcefully enough. Stay away--FAR AWAY.

[url] www.odcmp.com [/url]

Posted: 5/30/2001 8:57:08 AM EDT

[#13]

So you guys would recommend not buying one? LOL

Posted: 5/30/2001 10:04:09 AM EDT

[#14]

KBaker, maybe it WAS Springfield Armory, don't remember. Substitute Springfield for Fulton, and I'll still stand by original post.

Posted: 5/30/2001 10:32:58 AM EDT

[#15]

An AR15 IS NOT a Garand.

[size=6]WE KNOW because we gots knowledge![/size=6][:D]

Posted: 5/30/2001 3:12:15 PM EDT

[#16]

As I posted in a recent thread featuring lines from well liked movie:
[b]RUNAWAY...RUNAWAY[/b]

Posted: 5/30/2001 3:34:08 PM EDT

[#17]

Whaoh guys, cool it.
World Wolf: If you want to commit suicide and make sure your family collects on the settlement, GO FOR IT! Just place your head on the receiver and pop off a few hot loads, you'll be gone before you can say "headspace problems." No one's the wiser.

radioman

Posted: 5/30/2001 3:35:36 PM EDT

[#18]

To get the CMP rifle you don't even have to attend a match if you are a vet and you have a copy of your DD214.

Posted: 5/30/2001 4:42:25 PM EDT

[#19]

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To get the CMP rifle you don't even have to attend a match if you are a vet and you have a copy of your DD214.

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Unfortunently, I lack the scrotal contents to enlist. If the army wants me they've got my selective service number. But anyways, thanks for the advice, guys. I won't be buying that garand anytime soon. Does anyone from CA know if they check for AW registration at DCM matches? It would seem like a cop would have to be suicidal to arrest someone for that in the middle of an event where everyone is armed with brutal, cop-killing sporter rifles. If not, I may just drag my AR down there and give it a whirl. Then I'll have a real garand in the bag.

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