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Posted: 5/26/2001 8:11:45 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/26/2001 8:49:48 PM EST
Man, that is Kick-ass! I shot one "10", four "9", three "7", and two "4". I guess that's OK for someone who HATES the mil-dot recticle.
Link Posted: 5/26/2001 9:03:40 PM EST
This is actually GREAT training for someone who does/will use a mil-dot scope for long-range shooting. After figuring out how to measure (I always measure the distance about 15% less than what it actually is), I shot a 61 out of 10 targets. Wind is a breeze (no pun intended) to measure out, AS LONG as you know the elevation. My trick? Measure out what you THINK is right using the distance between mil-dots, and add about 15-20% to it - for some reason, I always come short. Nonetheless, it's a great little program. Highly recommended for some of our long-range shooters out there, and it gives you a nifty little range card you can probably use in real life if you have a .308 175gr(i think?) Matchking bullet. Two thumbs up. Jewbroni~
Link Posted: 5/26/2001 9:33:00 PM EST
I shot 57 I got really lucky on 2 of them... John
Link Posted: 5/27/2001 5:38:45 AM EST
Very nice. Thanks. (76)
Link Posted: 5/27/2001 6:17:04 AM EST
60 on all ten targets! Not bad for someone who does not shoot beyond 100 yrds.
Link Posted: 5/27/2001 7:50:03 AM EST
63 my first time ever looking through a mil dot. Damn, I wish I had enlisted way back when....
Link Posted: 5/27/2001 9:15:48 AM EST
Pretty cool! Thanks! Hit a 74.
Link Posted: 5/27/2001 9:30:30 AM EST
Will someone please explain the formula for that to me???? And what's with it not letting you raise the scope up very high sometimes?? Dont you need to know what the scope is already sighted in for????
Link Posted: 5/27/2001 9:42:47 AM EST
Nice. Thanks! Hit a 63
Link Posted: 5/27/2001 9:52:03 AM EST
74 again.
Link Posted: 5/27/2001 9:58:51 AM EST
CO, basically you can only assume that the scope is sighted in for 100(?) yards: all adjustments are made in ADDITIONAL 1/4 MOA, so if it's a 300 yard target, just adjust up that much MOA that your range card tells you to. (and remember to multiply your 1/4 MOA clicks time 4). Here's a not-so-short explanation of how to measure it out: Use your "distance b/w mil-dots = 3.5MOA" method to see how many 10" long targets will fit inside your mil-dot distance. Let's say ~2.5 of them will fit inside your 3.5MOA space. So that's 3.5/2.5 = [b]1.4 MOA for a 10" target[/b]. Since 1.4 MOA is 1.4" at 100 yards, you have to find out what range 1.4MOA covers 10". So 10/1.4 = 7.15 (* 100 yards) = [b]715 yards[/b]. For windage, here's the way SWAT adjusts there approximate windage: 15mph wind is about a 90 degree waving flag. So take whatever approximate angle flag you have (say ~30 degrees), divide it by 90 (30/90 = 1/3), and times that by 15 (15 * 1/3 = [b]5mph wind[/b]). When your range card says, let's say at 700 yards, to adjust for 4" of 1-mph wind, multiply that 4" times your actual wind (4" x 5mph = 20). Now multiply that times 4, since all windage adjustments are made in 1/4 MOA (25 x 4 = [b]100clicks[/b]). Finally, since 1 MOA is 1" at 100 yards, but covers a 7" distance at 700 yards, you have to divide that by your "actual range" to "100 yard range" distance-ratio (100clicks / 7 = [b]14.25, or 14 clicks[/b]). It's all a bit confusing at first, but it comes naturally after a while. Jewbroni~
Link Posted: 5/27/2001 10:02:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/27/2001 10:00:55 AM EST by Oslow]
Originally Posted By Captain Obvious: Will someone please explain the formula for that to me????
The elevation isn't too hard. The target is 30 inches high so it is .83 yards high. If the target measures 1.5 dots high then you divide 830 (.83*1000) by 1.5 an get 553 or approx. 550 yards. It is all explained (more or less) on the website. I'm mostly guessing on the windage.
Link Posted: 5/27/2001 10:49:21 AM EST
Oslow: I'm mostly guessing on the windage.
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Same here [i](Maybe that's the reason I can't seem to get over 70 [8)]).[/i] I don't know who wrote it, but that's [b]one hell of a simulation[/b], the guy has to a serious shooter too! . Now to prove I'm completely crazy (I thought it was my imagination at first), but... Does anyone else see a rabbit (or pigeon?) cross through the field of view???
Link Posted: 5/27/2001 1:27:22 PM EST
What can I say..... [img]http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=51205&a=12854646&p=49280198&Sequence=0&res=high[/img]
Link Posted: 5/27/2001 2:03:07 PM EST
Beagles747: What can I say.....
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LOL, pretty good! You can say that you cheated like a fudermuker (then tell me how you did that).[:D]
Link Posted: 5/27/2001 2:08:50 PM EST
Nah, I doubt he cheated. But I WILL bet on that he probably did it for 2 hours before finally getting it right [:D] Jewbroni~
Link Posted: 5/27/2001 11:56:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By Jewbroni: Nah, I doubt he cheated. But I WILL bet on that he probably did it for 2 hours before finally getting it right [:D] Jewbroni~
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No Way! It only took an hour and 20 minutes! John
Link Posted: 5/28/2001 3:25:02 PM EST
this game is excellent I couldn't even understand how to use a mildot scope, and now I am thinking of buying one. it was great. and I also got a 100, nut you are wrong it didn't take me two hours............it took me 11 straight hours!!!!!!!!!! and a lot of words that I didn't mean to say.
Link Posted: 5/28/2001 6:11:08 PM EST
Originally Posted By WILSON: [i]They're actually trying to sell you a CD, but it works fine if you just load it.[/i] Of coarse they're tryin' to sell you a CD, but it's worth it. You get a lot more scenarios, including movers, that'll blow your mind! Also, you don't have to go through the dowload routine every time. The range card is applicable to the real thing. I use it for the 168 grain Sierra MatchKings & it's almost dead on.
Link Posted: 5/29/2001 10:00:55 AM EST
That is great, but how the HELL do you estimate the change in bullet drop for wind blowing toward or away from you? I shot a 71 my first time out, but compensating for wind that wasn't perpendicular to the flight path was a pain. Especially when it was quartering toward or away.
Link Posted: 5/29/2001 6:40:50 PM EST
OK, I'm better at it, but why do crosswinds sometimes affect bullet drop and sometimes not? Is this a realistic effect? (I've never shot much beyond 300m.) This is fun! Now I want something that'll reach out 1000m and a Mil-dot scope. [sniper]
Link Posted: 5/29/2001 8:01:53 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 5:19:21 AM EST
This thing is cool! I shot a 77 first time, and I've never used a mil-dot scope before. I knew you could use it to estimate range, but I never knew how. Now I want one. [:)] If only I had somewhere to shoot that was longer than 50 yards. [:(]
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 5:33:20 AM EST
You do realize that it is the same ajustments every time, Right? ..... i wrote them down, then reshot the course and got 100.
Link Posted: 5/30/2001 5:53:12 AM EST
markm, I thought the object was to try and work out the formulas and shoot each one and see how you did?? I actually shot a 89 this morning. Yes, I do know that you can write them down, but it is in the spirit of shooting that I don't...... No, this is not meant as a slam to you...... DK
Link Posted: 5/31/2001 6:39:31 AM EST
I know.. dredging up old topics... But anyone know the maker of this program? Think you could pull some strings to get them to do a AR15.com special pricing? I want to buy it but not at 34 dollars. Ok, I been doing this for 2 days now and I scored a 10 on C. Not bad eh? Thanks for the info Jew-boy. NSF
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