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Posted: 5/24/2001 3:12:35 PM EDT
I got me 2 mini-14's one I'm pretty sure is pre-ban (bought it in 1990 used). I just picked up another one at a gun show. How do I know which if either is pre-ban?
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 3:18:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 3:19:15 PM EDT
from Ruger......... To check the date of manufacture of a firearm. (Please have the serial number of the firearm ready before you call.) RECORDS DEPARTMENT (603) 863-3300 8-4:30 Mon. - Fri ET
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 3:19:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2001 3:20:14 PM EDT by Juggernaut]
I doubt that a Mini-14 was ever unassembled, and made it out of the factory. OTOH, it's unlikely that you can prove that they were they were ever assembled in a GB type config. Ruger can confirm the manufacture dates, call: RECORDS DEPARTMENT (603) 863-3300 8-4:30 Mon. - Fri ET Juggernaut[%(]
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 3:34:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Racer-X: I got me 2 mini-14's one I'm pretty sure is pre-ban (bought it in 1990 used). I just picked up another one at a gun show. How do I know which if either is pre-ban?
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This is a real heated subject. If the mini in question is not a GB(factory flash hider, folding stock & bayonet lug) then you dont have a pre ban. the date it was made is not even a factor because the mini was not subject to the 94 ban. If you add any of those banned items you are creating a new assult weapon. you will find people on this board who will tell you otherwise. but you are the one who is taking the risk.
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 3:49:43 PM EDT
mini14world.com has a list of serial numbers and manufacturing dates.
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 3:55:09 AM EDT
For Ruger Production Dates.... [url]http://www.sportables.com/Ruger_rifles.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 4:01:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CavVet: For Ruger Production Dates.... [url]http://www.sportables.com/Ruger_rifles.htm[/url]
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Guess i need a mini 14....(do 30`s count?)...[smoke]
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 4:06:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2001 4:05:38 AM EDT by Jack-B-Nymble]
[i]This is a real heated subject. If the mini in question is not a GB(factory flash hider, folding stock & bayonet lug) then you dont have a pre ban. the date it was made is not even a factor because the mini was not subject to the 94 ban. If you add any of those banned items you are creating a new assult weapon. you will find people on this board who will tell you otherwise. but you are the one who is taking the risk.[/i] I'd have to disagree, in part. Aftermarket folding stocks, flash hiders, ect. were available for years, and before Sept. '94, people were putting them on their Minis. Legally. A rifle configured by the owner as an assault weapon per the 94 ban, before the ban, is grandfathered in. Also, it is up to the government to prove, not the owner. However, it would be wise for the owner to have dated receipts for the accessories. Bottom line, if it was not configured before 9/94 by [b]somebody[/b], it's too late now.
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 4:10:25 AM EDT
Ruger also made mag`s in various capacities (ie 10-20-30 rnd) until the bill ruger p-c move in 88/89...then the p-c 5 rounder was shipped with the mini`s.............[smoke]
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 7:21:54 AM EDT
my mini 14 was made in 1978.it has all wood not that cheapo plastic top that the newer ones have.anyway its pre ban but so what.im not going to put a bayonet mount on it or a folding stock that makes them barell heavy.pre ban is way overrated.as far as ARs go ill take a nib post ban anyday.and i did too.
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 8:00:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2001 8:02:40 AM EDT by Righteous_Kill]
Originally Posted By Garand Shooter: If you cannot prove that either one was ASSEMBLED with 2 or more of the evil features before the ban(detachable magazine, pistol grip, flash hider, grenade launcer, bayonet lug) then neither is really pre-ban.
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That is not true. The law simply states the rifles in question had to be legally possessed semi-auto assault weapons on the date of enactment. The law doesn’t say without proof they are not really pre-ban. Basically, in order for any of your mini-14s to qualify as grand fathered semi- auto assault weapons they would need to have had 2 or more of the AW features on or before Sept 14, 1994. Things like flash hiders, bayonet lugs, folding stocks, pistol grips, ext. Why some people don’t think the AW ban applies to mini-14's is beyond me. As someone indicated, people have been putting folding stocks, flash hiders, pistol grips and other goodies on mini-14s since the rifles introduction. RK
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 8:01:23 AM EDT
Here's another good Mini link. [url]http://www.mini14world.com/[/url]
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 8:12:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RipMeyer: This is a real heated subject. If the mini in question is not a GB(factory flash hider, folding stock & bayonet lug) then you dont have a pre ban. the date it was made is not even a factor because the mini was not subject to the 94 ban. If you add any of those banned items you are creating a new assult weapon. you will find people on this board who will tell you otherwise. but you are the one who is taking the risk.
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I must be one of those ”people”, but you are incorrect. A mini-14 doesn’t need to be a GB in order to be a legal, semi-auto AW. As I noted above, it only needs to have been configured as one, on or before the ban.
Link Posted: 5/25/2001 8:15:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2001 8:24:42 AM EDT by Righteous_Kill]
Originally Posted By RipMeyer: the date it was made is not even a factor because the mini was not subject to the 94 ban.
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Say what? Any semiautomatic rifle with a detachable magazine could fall under the ban. Hate to tell you, but that happens to include things like mini-14s, 10-22, marlin camp carbines, to name a few. Untold numbers of these rifles these rifles had been fitted with folding, pistol grip stocks before the ban. Get a clue. (B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of - (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a bayonet mount; (iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and (v) a grenade launcher;
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