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Posted: 5/17/2001 11:26:43 PM EDT
I thinking of buying a full auto.Other than A Minigun or 50 cal.,a afordable shooter ?
Link Posted: 5/17/2001 11:29:16 PM EDT
Affordable, how about something that shoots .22's....very affordable! Too bad the American-180 isn't made any more, that in full auto would be so much fun!! [:D]
Link Posted: 5/17/2001 11:30:07 PM EDT
MP5 Nuff said
Link Posted: 5/17/2001 11:47:34 PM EDT
Two questions come to mind-- 1. What is "affordable" to you. 2. Will this be the only one, or first of many? Most common suggestion is the M-16 ($4500 on up) because of the interchangeability of uppers, calibers, etc. Next would be UZI's (Vector or RR conversions) just under $3000. You can get .45, .41AE and .22 conversions, and the mags aren't too bad price wise. Bargain guns--MAC's and Stemples run under $1500. AFARR
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 1:22:26 AM EDT
TommyGun :)
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 2:54:23 AM EDT
If your going to do it, do it right. I'ld either go M14, STG, or M16. Maybe, but not necessarily, in that order. Very affordable compared to a Ma duece or Mini.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 3:18:46 AM EDT
The first should be a M16. There are so many things you can do to this. Have a short barrel, 11" 14.5" etc. Put on a 9mm upper, 45 upper, 22lr upper. Very versatile. American 180 is on my list of wants. They are awesome. :) 1919 too.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 3:40:46 AM EDT
M2, FN MAG58, M1917 or M1919, or a Vickers.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 3:49:02 AM EDT
For a machinegun, M60 hands down. Submachinegun would have to be an FN P90. Or for the big boy, the M2 HB browning is the bomb.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 4:07:24 AM EDT
just two on my list mac 10 .45 cal. m14 I like to live simple: mac10 easy to hide and carry and the m14 to reach out and touch someone or close fast firepower.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 4:17:33 AM EDT
I will love to have the HK MP5K and a real M4.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 4:31:19 AM EDT
Need more info.... What is affordable? If you have been saving 10 years for one of these an only have 6K than probably an American 180 because you won't be able to afford any ammo after purchasing. You will have to plan ahead, I will bet if you are like most people, after making your first purchase it won't be long before you look into making a second. Let us know what your attentions are... Purchase primarily as a collector piece? Purchase primarily as a shooter? What is your favorite caliber? Ask yourself, what gun makes you drool just by the sight of it? How much cash do you have for an item? Let us know and we will be happy to help. [:D]
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 4:42:56 AM EDT
M16 or the American 180!
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 5:21:06 AM EDT
Affordable? Get a M11 converted to use Sten mags. Just a little over a grand
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 5:21:32 AM EDT
Our first (2) C3's were a matched pair of MP5's!
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 6:59:23 AM EDT
stick a cork in it antiUSSA!!!!! I can't stand being this JEALOUS!!!!!!!! Nuckles.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 7:02:39 AM EDT
I would like two AM180s. Get an M16 and then you have the .22 kit option with 30rd mags. Then you can shoot .223, 9mm and .22
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 7:06:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 7:21:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Paul: A Machine Gun is normally a crew served weapon using rifle ammo. Make mine a Browning 1919A4 in .308
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Yea, we have one of those too, but in 30-06!
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 7:39:43 AM EDT
The Uzi is a good start for the money. Just make sure you have a good conversion. The magazines are strong and dependable and really could last a lifetime or two. Parts are everywhere. They are simple and fun - and fairly accurate. I used to hunt jack-rabbits with mine. It's a good bang for your buck. Or an M16-A1 if you can afford it. It's about twice as much as the Uzi. Rocking and rolling with an AR/M16XX isn't quite as much fun as with a subgun though, IMHO.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 8:35:25 AM EDT
I would get a m16 lower and a .22lr upper with a blast reducer.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 8:39:41 AM EDT
a custom made 8 barrel mini-gun that fired belt fed 22lr.... here i come wabbit
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 8:45:20 AM EDT
id take a s.a.w. or a negev lmg. gotta have belt back that goes very fast! steve
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 8:45:50 AM EDT
I plan on a lighting link for the AR15. I can transfur to any lower and use any upper, the link is the MG.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 8:46:51 AM EDT
Anything belt fed [:)]
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 8:58:15 AM EDT
Gotta be the 1919. John
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 9:10:05 AM EDT
First, M249. Second, M60.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 9:17:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/18/2001 9:20:00 AM EDT by MG_ME]
[left]My first one would be a maxum; second would be a 1919 browning. these are good MG's, and good to learn gunnery skill's on without being a mechanic with it. thats why i WOULD NOT recommend a M60. most of them are rewelds.[/left]
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 10:26:37 AM EDT
It would be cool to have a BAR. [heavy]
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 10:40:13 AM EDT
I get to shoot the Full Auto HK33 somtimes. Now that is the best of the best.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 1:37:34 PM EDT
My fists are MG's
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 1:57:59 PM EDT
An M2 Browning 50, or maybe a quad 50 like Dillon's would be kinda neat. Realisticly, an M16 with several caliber uppers. Sub guns are very cool, might have to add a dedicated sub like an Uzi for a total of two mg's. Until the bux materialize for the M2 anyway....
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 2:02:13 PM EDT
hmm my vote has to go for one of the old german ww2 sub guns like the smizer or a british sterling although i have always liked the hk model 53
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 2:09:13 PM EDT
I would go with a UZI. They are cheap as far as MG's go and surplus ammo is also cheap.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 4:02:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/18/2001 4:04:17 PM EDT by buzzworm]
Belt, 1919, Sub,MP5, Carry Type, HK21 (I know the 21 is belt fed also, but a lot more portable than the 1919.)
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 4:26:32 PM EDT
Dam! cant even dream about that.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 4:41:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 5:00:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/18/2001 4:59:40 PM EDT by Getsome]
afordable shooter ? M60- I don't think so! MP5- Nope M16- Possibly Uzi- Yes MAC 10/11- Definitely Anything belt fed- Usually not
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 5:26:18 PM EDT
I want to build my STG 58 kit.....(I love this site)
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 5:49:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/18/2001 5:48:25 PM EDT by Rakkasan]
Originally Posted By steve m: id take a s.a.w. or a negev lmg. gotta have belt back that goes very fast! steve
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Steve, the S.A.W Is by far the biggest piece of @#$% we have in the arms room. Totaly unreliable and who wants a M.G in 5.56?
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 9:14:22 PM EDT
If reality was somehow suspended, and I could own full-auto where I live (but still had to buy ammo). Not going to combat with any, but just for fun. Here is the order I would get (if I had any money): 1 - HK G36 2 - M249 SAW (Minimi) 3 - M60 4 - MP5 SD 5 - Armalite AR180 (or AR-18 Stoner) 6 - Thompson Model A-1 (Tommy Gun) 7 - BAR 8 - MP-40 9 - AK-47 (taken from Charlie) 10 - M16 All else being said, Ma Deuce would be on the top of my list.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 9:20:03 PM EDT
Sweet! Here are my choices in order of preference: MG34 MP40 Thompson M-1 BAR Swedish K M-16 [8D]
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 9:22:54 PM EDT
[b] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted By luckydogonfire: For a machinegun, M60 hands down. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You must be joking. The M60 is the biggest POS that the US Military has ever adopted, and they have finally realized it and began transitioning to the FN MAG-58, which has been adopted as the M240G. -Troy [/b] i really agree the weapon is poorly designed.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 9:25:37 PM EDT
Obviously you want what will give you the most options. M16 and UZI are great for that as far as easy swapping of barrels and calibers. Shooting 9mm FA is cost effective and 22LR even more. Not to mention UZI's cycling rate is manageable and the M16 can be modified for slower rate. Parts are abundantly available. Whole IMI SMG kits can be had real cheap and will keep you rocking. IMO any MG ranks high on the coolness factor but the M16 UZI and Thompson are the coolest
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 9:30:26 PM EDT
ge minigun
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 9:32:18 PM EDT
M1A1 BAR M3 Grease gun (yeah, I know, but still cool in a cheap, low bid manufacturer way) MP40 I guess I've got a thing for WW2 weapons.
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 9:36:28 PM EDT
Would like an M-16...If I had the extra $$$... MAC-10 or MAC-11 will probably be my first MG, only 'cuz I can afford one of these... Maybe in the next 6 mos. I hope [:)]
Link Posted: 5/18/2001 9:54:27 PM EDT
OK, if we're talking wish lists: Rifle: M4A1 Sub-gun: HK UMP .45 Belt-fed: HK 21 (followed closely by the Minigun) Seriously, try a DIAS or LL. Some guy has a DIAS posted on Subguns.com NFA board for $4000.
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 5:32:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/19/2001 5:31:19 AM EDT by OLY-M4gery]
1) MG-44 2) MG-3 (new version of MG-44) 3) Thompson Civilian Version Pre-War 4) M-4 (hey this is AR-15.com) 5) M-14 6) FA-MAS
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 7:39:43 AM EDT
The belt fed upper mounted on an M-4 lower that keeps popping up MK-19 40mm MG for those nice days in the park GAU-8 Avenger 30mm gatling cannon and an A-10 to haul it around "the ultimate drive by shooting"
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 8:58:08 AM EDT
m4 in 9mm, cheap ammo!
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