Everyone should suppport this.

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Sensible key to gun
                 safety

                 Licensing legislation
                 faces reality: Handguns
                 are inherently
                 dangerous

                 PUTTING a loaded handgun under a bed or in a
                 clothes drawer is like leaving keys on the dashboard.
                 It invites disaster.

                 Most drivers know better. Not enough gun owners do.
                 Out of carelessness or ignorance, they put others in
                 peril.

                 In the last school year, 510 guns were confiscated in
                 California public schools. Only a small portion of those
                 guns were bought illegally. Most, the police say, came
                 from home and or were taken from a neighbor's
                 house, where a kid knew a gun was located.

                 Tempt enough kids, by making guns visible and
                 accessible, and tragedies like the shooting spree this
                 year at Santana High, outside San Diego, will follow.

                 To reduce the risk of accidental shootings and the
                 odds that guns will fall into the wrong hands, handgun
                 buyers should be licensed. They should be required to
                 demonstrate they know how to use and store guns
                 safely. They should prove that they understand gun
                 laws.

                 That is the gist of a licensing bill, AB 35, sponsored by Assemblyman Kevin
                 Shelley, D-San Francisco, and its companion Senate bill, SB 52. It would treat
                 handguns for what they are: inherently dangerous consumer products.

                 Under current law, prospective handgun buyers can take a written exam on
                 gun laws and safety or simply watch a video on guns at a gun dealer. That is
                 to say, they can zone out, as a video drones on, and still get the weapons. No
                 need to touch a gun to take it home.

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                 Under AB 35, buyers would first have to obtain a handgun license, good for
                 five years, from the state. (Current handgun owners would need a license
                 only in order to purchase another gun.) To get the license, they'd first have to
                 go to a firing range and prove they can handle a handgun -- loading and
                 unloading it and installing a safety lock. A two- to four-hour course given by
                 a state-approved instructor would replace the video.

                 License applicants also would have to undergo 10-day background checks --
                 the same as prospective handgun buyers do now. But AB 35 would require
                 license applicants to be fingerprinted at their local police station. This would
                 serve the immediate purpose of discouraging those ineligibile from buying
                 handguns, such as felons, from using fake IDs at gun shops. The prints
                 eventually could provide a useful data base for tracking gun crimes.

                 Licensing would require two or three extra stops -- the police station, a firing
                 range, maybe a classroom -- before buying a gun. It would add to the cost:
                 about $40 in fees plus the price of a course. But, on balance, these are not
                 undue burdens. They are similar to what some states require for a concealed
                 weapons permit.

                 AB 35 faces a critical vote next week in the Assembly's Appropriations
                 Committee. Among those yet to indicate how they'll vote is first-term
                 Assemblyman Joe Simitian, D-Palo Alto, and Assemblyman Lou Papan,
                 D-Millbrae. Gov. Gray Davis, who last year threatened to veto any new gun
                 bills, also hasn't yet signaled his intent.

                 Handgun licensing would not eliminate gun crimes, any more than requiring a
                 driver's license has stopped carnage on the highway. But it would be a
                 sensible step on the public's behalf.
                                                                       

g more kalifornia stupidity well time to fire off another letter to my reps even thu i dont live in Kali. we all know sooner or later there gonna export this crap to other countrys err states

Clever way of saying that most were stolen.                  



...but socialists believe that all
ownership of personal property
will lead to crime.

This is another in a piece of garbage legislation coming out of the moral cesspool. Legislation like this puts ordinary citizens at risk, while criminals who don't follow the laws anyway, are able to operate with more freedom everyday. The laws limit our ability to defend ourselves against criminal predators. There will always be children - teen - or otherwise, who do not follow the instructions of parents - i.e the steal. These proposed laws will not stop the intended actions anymore than drug laws are able to stop drug use by the kids. Children will be children unless parents take the responsibilty to educate them in gun safety and use. The big difference between gun use and drugs is the violation of natural law this legislation and regulation of guns places on you and me. They can limit our ability to defend ourselves at critical moments when split seconds are vital. Guns locked away are useless when threats occur faster than a blinking eye. It's like saying, "that gun is designed for only one purpose, to kill people." I'll go you one better, it's designed for CONFLICT. And if the s.it hits the fan, I want the best defense and tools of defense I can afford. Hunting and practice shooting is training for conflict. The laws they propose are to prevent you from responding to conflict, to keep you the subject and the government the tyrant.

If we just didn't temp those poor kids, they wouldn't go bad. It's not their fault that they do bad things, it's the fault of all those mean hearted gun owners that have gun just lying around all over tha place.DAMN YOU MEAN HEARTED GUN OWNERS!!

i want a new regulated BATF aproved car lock for my sports car and case of beer...........stupid laws for more power right.

Common sense and reasonable gun control


This is easy folks:

Common sense = if the two rounds to center mass don't work, good chance the goblin is wearing body armor.

Reasonable gun control = one round right between the eyes.


Hunter out...

Question:  How do we solve the problem with kids with guns?
Answer(?):  Register law abiding gun owners, and make sure they know how to shoot.

I'm sorry, I don't see the correlation here...  It's about as much sense as this:

Question:  How do we solve the problem with kids and peanut butter?
Answer(?):  Register law abising fridge owners, and make sure they know how to defrost.

And how does someone pass a shooting proficiency exam (the requirements decided by the local department (I'd love to see the exam for Los Angeles)), without ever owning or shooting a gun before?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...............

The d*ck of some grungy ass guy with AIDS is more dangerous.  Let's license them.......

Hmmm... it makes perfect sense, the logic is unreal. If any kid tried to use a gun to commit another school shooting the little paper license will magically appear and force the kid to stop what he is doing. "Halt, don't you realize that this is a fully licensed and registered firearm thus it can't be used to murder your classmates."

 What Mindhunter said!!!!!!!!

humm Lets see ... San Francisco queer capitol of the world

It's allright to allow all of the buttf--kers with aids to infest anyone they can get behind,
they allow the governmental use of needles which are used over and over, how many die from that an nothing is ever said to outlaw the practice or use of instruments.

Mention inherent rights, and those crotch sniffing socialist want to ban, and then confiscate.

Perhaps a giant earthquake with that hell hole sliding deep into the pacific will be the only answer. I would hope that each honest freedom loving person would receive some form of devine warning allowing them to leave, and let the gutter slime become fish bait. Only problem is that we would not be able to purchase fish products from the queer coast for awhile as the meat may be tainted.

I hate the term "common sense" because it seems to have become an uncommon commodity. More damage has been done in the name of "common sense" than good. One mans "common sense is another mans "stupidity". [spank]

The BS just keeps getting higher and higher!  None of their premises have no foundation and their conclusions are extermely selective.  Oh yeah, I buy into their "logic"

To answer this, you have to check out half of Imbroglio's posts (not the half about women, the other half). [:D]  He is one of the masters of sarcasm.

Common sense gun control is where everyone has guns except Imbroglio.

The horror.......the horror...........

My granddaddy once said "Monte, common sense aint all that common."  Now I am for damn sure and certain he's right.  Where I come from, gun control means always treating every gun as if it's loaded, don't point it at anything that you are'nt willing to shoot, and always hitting what you shoot at.  Another thing that's bothering me, if all these senators and representatives are anti-gun, then how in the F*CK do they know how to properly store a firearm?  They can't as ffar as I can see.  Why don't we start implementing politician control?  

Imbro can be on my team anytime.  You must have overlooked something, Sparky.  Imbro is [i]anything[/i], but (captain) obvious.  

Then after doing this let me carry it concealed, after all that's what other states do.

Yes- "common sense and gun control" is an oxymoron.

I wrote Kevin Shelley (he is my assemblyman) before I found out he was a National Socialist, asking him to vote against last year's registration scheme, he wrote back saying he would "consider my views". Unfortunately, he is not only a liar, he now thinks we care and keeps sending us his junkmail. Only thing worse than getting on a politician's mailing list is buying property and getting junkmail from every real estate agent and lending company in the state.

Madkiwi