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Posted: 8/18/2017 4:21:44 PM EDT
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My girlfriend bought a base '16 Tacoma SR 4x4 last year with 4cyl and 5spd MT based on the no-nonsense awesomeness of those little pre-Tacoma pickups.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 4:22:14 PM EDT
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Those are a dime a dozen in South Alabama
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Posted: 8/18/2017 4:23:02 PM EDT
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I went hunting years ago with a guy at work who had one of those. God it was absolutely tiny inside. I made the mistake of riding with him. I think it took me an entire weekend to work the kinks out of my back and knees. Next time we went in my gas guzzling F-100.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 4:23:03 PM EDT
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Not an Iowa truck. That's for damn sure. It would have rusted into nothing by now. You still see a few of the driving around this state but they are rotted to hell.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 4:27:01 PM EDT
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I went hunting years ago with a guy at work who had one of those. God it was absolutely tiny inside. I made the mistake of riding with him. I think it took me an entire weekend to work the kinks out of my back and knees. Next time we went in my gas guzzling F-100. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 4:28:19 PM EDT
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 Attached File23 years owning my 4runner. 3rd engine..... Still looking for a 4th gen White 2005 2006 4runner SR5 4wd v6. 
Not having much luck.... |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 4:32:28 PM EDT
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I like the 22RE's but if they haven't been rebuilt by now, the cam chain tensioners are brittle and trashed. My brother has an '86 that is currently waiting on him to do the headgasket. I've seen both of my brothers who are Toyota truck enthusiasts (blame Marty's truck from Back to the Future, seriously  ) have gone through a number of head gaskets, clutches, and the occasional transmission.
The '86 has under 100k on it, iirc. 
On the flipside, they are VERY forgiving of mechanical fuckery. They will run (terribly) for a very long time on hopes, dreams, duct tape, and bailing wire. 
They've scrapped at least 3 or four trucks between them due to the frame rusting out. And those were just the ones that were too bad to save.
Between my two brothers I think they've got around 5 of them, more or less, right now. One of them even has one of the super rare custom cab models (in awful shape everywhere but the cab, of course ).
(not my brother's truck) 
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Posted: 8/18/2017 4:35:56 PM EDT
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They really aren't as good as they're cracked up to be. My brother has an '86 that is currently waiting on him to do the headgasket. I've seen both of my brothers who are Toyota truck enthusiasts (blame Marty's truck from Back to the Future, seriously ) have gone through a number of head gaskets, clutches, and the occasional transmission.
The '86 has under 100k on it, iirc.
On the flipside, they are VERY forgiving of mechanical fuckery. They will run (terribly) for a very long time on hopes, dreams, duct tape, and bailing wire.
They've scrapped at least 3 or four trucks between them due to the frame rusting out. And those were just the ones that were too bad to save.
Between my two brothers I think they've got around 5 of them, more or less, right now. One of them even has one of the super rare custom cab models (in awful shape everywhere but the cab, of course ).
(not my brother's truck) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0u9nbyiox3s/U2h6WQ5tqsI/AAAAAAAAKDo/asrQvaRJ2c0/s1600/1986-Toyota-Hilux-Truck-Pickup-4WD-Custom-Cab-7.JPG I also blame BTTF for my love of these damn trucks. They were also new when I was in HS and all the "cool kids" had toyota 4x4s. I graduated in 91, bought my 1st one in 92 (that I still have) and have owned several (currently have 3 and a Tacoma). |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 4:38:27 PM EDT
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My 1st new truck was an 86 Toyota 4WD, no A/C and crank windows. Paid 8400$ for it from the dealer. I put 31" Mud terrains and a Detroit locker in the rear and a Warn 8274 winch and it would get thru most terrain. I pulled several big F-250's out of the mud during hunting season with that truck!
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Posted: 8/18/2017 4:45:22 PM EDT
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Low HP, torquey and will run on a 3rd world maintenance schedule pretty much forever. I also blame BTTF for my love of these damn trucks. They were also new when I was in HS and all the "cool kids" had toyota 4x4s. I graduated in 91, bought my 1st one in 92 (that I still have) and have owned several (currently have 3 and a Tacoma).
ETA: As far as "mechanical fuckery" goes, that custom cab truck that my brother has started out as a Turbo truck, which then had an N/A top end swapped on it sometime during its life. It's currently sitting outside with the head off of it, and you can clearly see the N/A exhaust parts, and the Turbo dished pistons in the bottom end. Poor truck probably ran like ass and I bet the guy who had that done instantly regretted it.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 4:47:08 PM EDT
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I have AC in my 1986 and it blows ICE cold after the conversion.
Still on original converter and setup...just only the conversion was done for the new one. Was using Mexican Freon for a long long time until I said fuck it and went to the new style.
I got 4:56 gears from an 1995 on it now and running 32" BFG AT. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 5:03:43 PM EDT
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When I said "They'll run poorly forever." I meant it. I could probably go out to the 86, fill it with water, leave the rad cap loose and drive it across country if I wanted.
ETA: As far as "mechanical fuckery" goes, that custom cab truck that my brother has started out as a Turbo truck, which then had an N/A top end swapped on it sometime during its life. It's currently sitting outside with the head off of it, and you can clearly see the N/A exhaust parts, and the Turbo dished pistons in the bottom end. Poor truck probably ran like ass and I bet the guy who had that done instantly regretted it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Low HP, torquey and will run on a 3rd world maintenance schedule pretty much forever. I also blame BTTF for my love of these damn trucks. They were also new when I was in HS and all the "cool kids" had toyota 4x4s. I graduated in 91, bought my 1st one in 92 (that I still have) and have owned several (currently have 3 and a Tacoma).
ETA: As far as "mechanical fuckery" goes, that custom cab truck that my brother has started out as a Turbo truck, which then had an N/A top end swapped on it sometime during its life. It's currently sitting outside with the head off of it, and you can clearly see the N/A exhaust parts, and the Turbo dished pistons in the bottom end. Poor truck probably ran like ass and I bet the guy who had that done instantly regretted it. It had 4 broken piston rings and a large gouge in one bore. Rear crank bearings were toast too. I drove it 100 miles to the desert, beat the crap out of it offroad, temp gauge pegged the whole time and drove it home. It had so much blowby, I roadside fabricated a catch can out of a gatorade bottle and would stop every 45 minutes or so to pour the oil back in the engine. Pulled the head and the oil pan off, popped the pistons out, ran a dingle ball hone down the bores, put new rings and bearings in it and slapped it all back together. I drove it for another year before I parked it. It then sat for almost a decade before I decided to pull it apart to start a rebuild. I bet a buddy of mine that it would start. Chucked a battery in it, squirted some starting fluid down the carb and she fired right up. Ran like crap but it ran. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 5:04:49 PM EDT
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I have AC in my 1986 and it blows ICE cold after the conversion. Still on original converter and setup...just only the conversion was done for the new one. Was using Mexican Freon for a long long time until I said fuck it and went to the new style.
I got 4:56 gears from an 1995 on it now and running 32" BFG AT. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 5:08:12 PM EDT
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I have AC in my 1986 and it blows ICE cold after the conversion. Still on original converter and setup...just only the conversion was done for the new one. Was using Mexican Freon for a long long time until I said fuck it and went to the new style.
I got 4:56 gears from an 1995 on it now and running 32" BFG AT. I hate to go 4:88 in case I ever go to a smaller tire. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 5:10:09 PM EDT
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When I was much younger and poor(er) I blew the motor in my 86 4x4. It had 4 broken piston rings and a large gouge in one bore. Rear crank bearings were toast too. I drove it 100 miles to the desert, beat the crap out of it offroad, temp gauge pegged the whole time and drove it home. It had so much blowby, I roadside fabricated a catch can out of a gatorade bottle and would stop every 45 minutes or so to pour the oil back in the engine. Pulled the head and the oil pan off, popped the pistons out, ran a dingle ball hone down the bores, put new rings and bearings in it and slapped it all back together. I drove it for another year before I parked it. It then sat for almost a decade before I decided to pull it apart to start a rebuild. I bet a buddy of mine that it would start. Chucked a battery in it, squirted some starting fluid down the carb and she fired right up. Ran like crap but it ran. He drove it off the trailer.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 5:11:38 PM EDT
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They're all over the place out here. I drive a '94, myself. Like the other guy said, 'till death do us part.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 5:18:12 PM EDT
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NICE! Especially for a rust belt truck. Please tell me you don't drive it during salt season. Those have got to be a rarity up there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here's my 89https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58174/IMG_20110417_143838-283492.JPG Especially for a rust belt truck. Please tell me you don't drive it during salt season. Those have got to be a rarity up there. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 5:21:14 PM EDT
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There's a reason that ISIS drives these things. Their politics are a bit extreme, but they know dependable, reasonably priced transportation when they see it. Even Rafe Sagarin in "Learning from the Octopus" called Toyota trucks among the most capable and adaptable machines ever built (paraphrase).
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Posted: 8/18/2017 5:21:16 PM EDT
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Mexicans are buying the living shit out of them. There is always a train of them heading to the border. I see it on the freeway almost every day.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 5:31:44 PM EDT
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Mexicans are buying the living shit out of them. There is always a train of them heading to the border. I see it on the freeway almost every day. Guy that bought it showed up with a large trailer with a few other Toyota and Nissan trucks already on it . Said he hauled um to south America to sell |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 5:43:12 PM EDT
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Bought one like that new in 1986 and beat the crap out of for 12 years, then some scumbug stole it.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 5:56:27 PM EDT
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Mexicans are buying the living shit out of them. There is always a train of them heading to the border. I see it on the freeway almost every day. I know I will kick myself for it but the extracab 4x4 (dark blue one) might be se vende in the not too distant future. Just don't drive it much and I want something newer for longer overland trips (4th gen 4x4 4runner or 100 series LC). |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 5:58:52 PM EDT
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I had a 1985, bought brand new at Fletcher Jones in Las Vegas, moved to Ohio and it got ruined in 3 winters, miss that damn truck you could almost hear them fall apart in Ohio |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 6:01:43 PM EDT
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Those trucks rusted so bad and so fast it's like what you see when you piss through toilet paper. you could almost hear them fall apart in Ohio
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Posted: 8/18/2017 6:05:25 PM EDT
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Mexicans are buying the living shit out of them. There is always a train of them heading to the border. I see it on the freeway almost every day. Almost everyone I know who has sold a small used truck in the past few years had the buyer tell them it was going to Mexico. ETA: I'm in the upper MW too, so we aren't just talking about border states. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 6:06:52 PM EDT
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Cool. I see bone stock survivors around here occasionally. While rust isn't an issue, passing smog or getting stolen and taken south of the border are. Two of mine. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/107869/IMG_0930-283447.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/107869/IMG_1339-283446.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/107869/IMG_1018-283451.JPG |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 6:13:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/18/2017 6:14:38 PM EDT
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I've been rocking the 1992 Toyota P/U since 2000. It had 5,000 miles on it when I got it and it has 105,XXX now. Reliable and handy as fuck but the sciatica is making driving a standard a bitch.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 6:18:27 PM EDT
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I see a few mint 80's Toyota trucks from time to time. Saw a perfect first gen 4Runner SR5 recently with the windows up on a 95* day. Clean as hell and working AC. I was jelly.
I miss my 89 4Runner and want another. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 6:31:17 PM EDT
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My grandpa just picked up a 92 that is spotless.
With 42,000 miles, perfect body, only the slightest bit of surface rust on some suspension/steering parts. They go to Arizona for winter so the little Toyota stays in a climate controlled garage for the winter. I'll re-up my ARF subscription and upload some pics. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 6:56:22 PM EDT
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Yep. Mexico is really putting a strain on the supply of used trucks in the U.S. Almost everyone I know who has sold a small used truck in the past few years had the buyer tell them it was going to Mexico. ETA: I'm in the upper MW too, so we aren't just talking about border states. Looks like used trucks gradually migrate south. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:04:35 PM EDT
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I had a 1985, bought brand new at Fletcher Jones in Las Vegas, moved to Ohio and it got ruined in 3 winters, miss that damn truck you could almost hear them fall apart in Ohio |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:05:40 PM EDT
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4:56 is perfect and I can go uphill in 5th gear. Can pull my trailer and boat easier also.
4:88 was too high from many peoples opinions. 4:56 is easier to get also... |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:06:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:09:27 PM EDT
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My 93 that I bought in 95 with 23k. Now has 178k and I still love it.
It's a great 2nd vehicle.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:26:24 PM EDT
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Those trucks rusted so bad and so fast it's like what you see when you piss through toilet paper. you could almost hear them fall apart in Ohio |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:28:04 PM EDT
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I know of one that literally rusted in half when it was about 5 years old. Frame rusted so bad the truck literally broke into two pieces where the cab meets the bed.
ETA: Unless they live in a desert, then they carry on until they can't run anymore.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:32:09 PM EDT
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I know of one that literally rusted in half when it was about 5 years old. Frame rusted so bad the truck literally broke into two pieces where the cab meets the bed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Those trucks rusted so bad and so fast it's like what you see when you piss through toilet paper. you could almost hear them fall apart in Ohio |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:32:47 PM EDT
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Love me some straight axle yotas! I've had two 84s over the years. The first one was rust free everywhere including the bed. The second I had the typical rusty bed with no cab rust. I pulled the bed and my son and I fabbed up an All Pro style flat bed ( along with front bumper and rails). I still have the old rusty bed off of it back I'm the woods behind the shop.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:36:37 PM EDT
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Up here in the northern states we are buying tons of trucks in Canada due to the weak Canadian dollar and poor Canadian economy. Looks like used trucks gradually migrate south. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:39:12 PM EDT
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On an OG box frame pickup (not a Tacoma)? I honestly find that very hard to believe.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:44:30 PM EDT
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Cool. Are people buying 25YO+ trucks to get around the import deal, or is it not really an issue up there? |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:50:49 PM EDT
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Are you sure you've ever owned one of these (or closely known anyone who's owned one)? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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On an OG box frame pickup (not a Tacoma)? I honestly find that very hard to believe. I know the beds rusted off, but it took a lot of neglect to rust one of those frames in half. To make it happen in 5 years, it was either a factory defect or in a ridiculously caustic environment. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:52:08 PM EDT
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Not a big truck guy but those little Toyota's are sweet.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:52:18 PM EDT
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Mostly newer domestic pickups. Domestic vehicles, and in particular Ford and GM are very easy to import...Ford being the easiest. No importation tax due to NAFTA. All you need to do is prove that the vehicle meets all applicable US emissions and safety standards at the date of manufacture. Call the mfg with the VIN and they will send you a letter stating such. Fords are build the same for US and Canada other than the gauge (MPH vs KPH) and since the KPH gauge has MPH in the small inner scale, you don't need to change it. Some GM's need to be retrofitted with some sort of airbag indicator light that is used the US and not in Canada. Dodge doesn't really want people to import so it can be much more difficult to get the compliance letter from them. Japanese and European cars and trucks can be a pain in the ass to import. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:54:43 PM EDT
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LOL. See pics in earlier post. The frames on the older pickups were pretty overbuilt for that size of a truck. I know the beds rusted off, but it took a lot of neglect to rust one of those frames in half. To make it happen in 5 years, it was either a factory defect or in a ridiculously caustic environment. 
Most of my experience has been with trucks that see salt, and I'm fairly sure that Mr Goodkat is talking about a Minnesota truck. I could buy road salt killing one with a quickness, especially if you never cleaned the truck.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:55:04 PM EDT
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LOL. See pics in earlier post. The frames on the older pickups were pretty overbuilt for that size of a truck. I know the beds rusted off, but it took a lot of neglect to rust one of those frames in half. To make it happen in 5 years, it was either a factory defect or in a ridiculously caustic environment. Truck was an '81 or '82 and this happened in '87 or '88, so it could have been maybe 7 years old max. But, it did indeed happen. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 7:59:37 PM EDT
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Great info. Thank you. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 8:11:47 PM EDT
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MN. It was my aunt's truck. Truck was an '81 or '82 and this happened in '87 or '88, so it could have been maybe 7 years old max. But, it did indeed happen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL. See pics in earlier post. The frames on the older pickups were pretty overbuilt for that size of a truck. I know the beds rusted off, but it took a lot of neglect to rust one of those frames in half. To make it happen in 5 years, it was either a factory defect or in a ridiculously caustic environment. Truck was an '81 or '82 and this happened in '87 or '88, so it could have been maybe 7 years old max. But, it did indeed happen. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 8:13:05 PM EDT
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MN. It was my aunt's truck. Truck was an '81 or '82 and this happened in '87 or '88, so it could have been maybe 7 years old max. But, it did indeed happen. |
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