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Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:32:18 AM EDT
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3%-4% of house values per year.

rest assured the tax collectors increase the values every year.

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My assessment has gone up twice in 15 years. The first time it was a lowball change and I didn't protest. They did it again this year and pretty much nailed market value but I protested and they knocked 15k off immediately.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:32:58 AM EDT
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One day there will be a Texas high school team playing hoe games under a retractable dome.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:33:15 AM EDT
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Priorities...  Fail.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:34:38 AM EDT
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I knew it was in Texas before even reading the article. 
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 I do, they are a distraction from the stated goal and suck resources from education. If kids want to play sports, they should do it on their time and dime. 
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Absolutely
I loved sports as a kid. But my parents paid for it. We all
Played baseball  The league was supported
By local business but parents made up the shortfall.  

Schools should have actual , rigorous physical ed programs and leave the sports competition to private sector and parents
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I grew up in South East PA in the 80's and football was huge, not on the level of Texas, but close and I couldn't imagine stadiums like this.

Is it a Texas thing, the snowflake generation or both?
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SWPA has always been football-crazy.
I remember everyone freaking out in 1980 when Penn Hills HS got an AstroTurf field.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:38:47 AM EDT
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Funny how many HS in  Alabama ( and other states) play on shitty fields with chain link fences and aluminum bleachers. They manage to produce good athletes anyway
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:40:59 AM EDT
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There should be no high school sports.

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Lol, I probably learned more helpful things to get me through life on the field, golf course, diamond, etc... than I did in our dumbed down classrooms.

Learn at the pace of the slowest learner, and they have enabled all the shit heads to cause constant distractions.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:41:40 AM EDT
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I knew it was in Texas before even reading the article. 
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Well, it does say it in the thread title..
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:44:35 AM EDT
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8.25%? Come to Birmingham AL where the combined sales tax is 10%.  
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Don't forget that sweet 8.25% sales tax Texans have too, despite no income tax.

I don't live in that burg but if I did I would be trying to find a spot outside of that school district post haste. Property taxes are way too high. Oh and the equity thing? Whoopee do. All that means is even if you try to downsize the next house is going to have some inflated price and your money will be tied up there for the duration of ownership too....for which you get the privilege of being taxed on it.
8.25%? Come to Birmingham AL where the combined sales tax is 10%.  
Yep, we get raped in Alabama.

Income Tax? Yep.

Sales Tax? Yep. 10% most everywhere

Property Tax? Yep, got that too.

And yet our budget is always fucked and theres always a desire to raise taxes even more.

Meanwhile everything is dilapidated and shitty, except that new school they built, that serves as a minimum security prison for the inmates in the City of Birmingham until they can get sent to real prison.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:44:45 AM EDT
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Winning state football titles is a BIG deal, and brings lots of money into the district.

The Katy area is definitely not hurting for money.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:45:32 AM EDT
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In my area, in one meeting of the school board, a multi million $ indoor football practice field was approved, a new copy machine for the fine arts department was rejected.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:45:44 AM EDT
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I like football but education should come first.  I live in a football small town and all parents care about is if their kids keep a 2.0 to play sports.
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How much are their property taxes?
A lot.
$6k on a $220k valuation is high but not crazy outlandish compared to the rest of Texas.  Keep in mind we don't have income taxes here and property purchase values are not recorded like in CA
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:47:49 AM EDT
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Sports shouldn't be a part of School.

Middle, High, or Collegiate.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:48:40 AM EDT
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6k taxes on a 200k valued house? Did I read that correctly ? Lulz
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My taxes last year were $6500 on a $230K house.  I'm in Ft Worth.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:49:44 AM EDT
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You think all education comes from a classroom?
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:50:32 AM EDT
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They did have an education bond to rebuild 2 schools.  They threw two turf fields in there and it was voted down.  The butt hurt was epic.  Waited a year and tried again without turf fields and it passed.  They were laying off teachers at the time.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:51:16 AM EDT
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Yep, we get raped in Alabama.

Income Tax? Yep.

Sales Tax? Yep. 10% most everywhere

Property Tax? Yep, got that too.

And yet our budget is always fucked and theres always a desire to raise taxes even more.

Meanwhile everything is dilapidated and shitty, except that new school they built, that serves as a minimum security prison for the inmates in the City of Birmingham until they can get sent to real prison.
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Does b'ham/Jeff co still have the occupational tax to punish those  who drive in from other counties to work there? I lived in Talladega county but worked at UAB. Had to pay for the privilege
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:52:14 AM EDT
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but where does all the good football recruits come from usually? Floriduh, iirc?
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You don't own a home or pay property taxes do you?
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The guy crying about it has a household income of 150-200k, on a "valued" 200k home, said it increased by 60k, so he has a lot of free equity, and purchased a 140k home.

Boo fucking hoo.
You don't own a home or pay property taxes do you?
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My property taxes are about 3000. I have a hard time feeling sorry for a guy with twice my household income over 3k, and he now has to move because of it
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:53:58 AM EDT
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Lol, I probably learned more helpful things to get me through life on the field, golf course, diamond, etc... than I did in our dumbed down classrooms.

Learn at the pace of the slowest learner, and they have enabled all the shit heads to cause constant distractions.
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 Aside from your silly justification, football didn't teach you to read, to do math, about history, chemistry, literature and of the other components of "education."

I am sure that you learned quite a bit. It is STILL beyond the scope of academic education. 

That's why it is called "extra-curricular." 
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:55:03 AM EDT
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You think all education comes from a classroom?
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 I do, they are a distraction from the stated goal and suck resources from education. If kids want to play sports, they should do it on their time and dime. 
You think all education comes from a classroom?
 That's a strawman. 
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:55:27 AM EDT
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8.25%? Come to Birmingham AL where the combined sales tax is 10%.  
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and state income tax on top
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:57:23 AM EDT
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I am from Texas, born and raised. I played high school football in a pretty badass stadium with lots of booster support for nice stuff and 20k people on Friday nights...



This is utterly ridiculous.


The older I get the more I think we should remove sports from school and turn them over to the private sector for club leagues. At the NCAA level you can have schools sponsor club teams so they still can have COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!!!! but the kids are actually paid professionals hired by the school and it can be the farm league for the NFL. Hey, hopefully, they can actually use this stadium unlike the $60 million abortion in Allen.
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This is utterly indefensible. Without reading the thread, I'm going to bet a bunch of Texans in the thread are defending it though, or just attacking people for where they live (ad hominem).
I am from Texas, born and raised. I played high school football in a pretty badass stadium with lots of booster support for nice stuff and 20k people on Friday nights...



This is utterly ridiculous.


The older I get the more I think we should remove sports from school and turn them over to the private sector for club leagues. At the NCAA level you can have schools sponsor club teams so they still can have COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!!!! but the kids are actually paid professionals hired by the school and it can be the farm league for the NFL. Hey, hopefully, they can actually use this stadium unlike the $60 million abortion in Allen.
ncaa football is already the farm league for the nfl.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 8:58:09 AM EDT
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Does b'ham/Jeff co still have the occupational tax to punish those  who drive in from other counties to work there? I lived in Talladega county but worked at UAB. Had to pay for the privilege
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Yep, we get raped in Alabama.

Income Tax? Yep.

Sales Tax? Yep. 10% most everywhere

Property Tax? Yep, got that too.

And yet our budget is always fucked and theres always a desire to raise taxes even more.

Meanwhile everything is dilapidated and shitty, except that new school they built, that serves as a minimum security prison for the inmates in the City of Birmingham until they can get sent to real prison.
Does b'ham/Jeff co still have the occupational tax to punish those  who drive in from other counties to work there? I lived in Talladega county but worked at UAB. Had to pay for the privilege
City of Birmingham? Yes, somehow Constitutional

Jefferson County? No, somehow Unconstitutional.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 9:00:45 AM EDT
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We also don't pay sales tax on food and medications.

Can of Spaghetti-O's is $1 on the shelf, it's $1 at checkout.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 9:02:22 AM EDT
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There should be no high school sports.

You want to play games, get a monopoly board and do it after 3pm.
I'm sure you have an awesome reason why.....
Have you seen the comparison of US kids as opposed to other nations when it comes to STEM? I don't think we have the time or money to waste.
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We also don't pay sales tax on food and medications.

Can of Spaghetti-O's is $1 on the shelf, it's $1 at checkout.
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8.25%? Come to Birmingham AL where the combined sales tax is 10%.  
We also don't pay sales tax on food and medications.

Can of Spaghetti-O's is $1 on the shelf, it's $1 at checkout.
And with that, the most dysfunctional area of Texas is more functional than all but the best areas of Alabama.

Its almost as if Alabama is the king of corruption and graft, on a scale to give Chicago pause.

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We pay taxes on food of course, State of Alabama hasn't found a thing its not in favor of taxing yet.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 9:03:45 AM EDT
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Don't forget that sweet 8.25% sales tax Texans have too, despite no income tax.

I don't live in that burg but if I did I would be trying to find a spot outside of that school district post haste. Property taxes are way too high. Oh and the equity thing? Whoopee do. All that means is even if you try to downsize the next house is going to have some inflated price and your money will be tied up there for the duration of ownership too....for which you get the privilege of being taxed on it.
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you mean 6.25%.  Some cities add a bit to it.  Houston is 8.25%
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Texas doesnt fuck around when it comes to high school football. Friday Night Lights.
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My son lives there and is real proud of this.
The irony is...they told their son after two seasons of football that he was done because of concussions.
In ten years football will be done. Parents want their kids to be able to complete their education without dealing with brain injuries.
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Income taxes wouldn't go towards the local government anyway.
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So the 2.5% City tax I paid didn't go to the city?
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 9:07:29 AM EDT
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There should be no high school sports.

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TLDR, although this school may be great, assuming by it's location, sports should be taken totally out of public schools.
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My son lives there and is real proud of this.
The irony is...they told their son after two seasons of football that he was done because of concussions.
In ten years football will be done. Parents want their kids to be able to complete their education without dealing with brain injuries.
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Texas doesnt fuck around when it comes to high school football. Friday Night Lights.
My son lives there and is real proud of this.
The irony is...they told their son after two seasons of football that he was done because of concussions.
In ten years football will be done. Parents want their kids to be able to complete their education without dealing with brain injuries.
Good.

One can only hope, and I say that as a recovering football fan.

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Sorry about the kid, not good about that, good about football being done for.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 9:08:38 AM EDT
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There should be no high school sports.

You want to play games, get a monopoly board and do it after 3pm.
I'm sure you have an awesome reason why.....
 I do, they are a distraction from the stated goal and suck resources from education. If kids want to play sports, they should do it on their time and dime. 
Tell us where the coach touched you..
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 9:09:33 AM EDT
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Lol, Texas.
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There should be no high school sports.

You want to play games, get a monopoly board and do it after 3pm.
I'm sure you have an awesome reason why.....
 I do, they are a distraction from the stated goal and suck resources from education. If kids want to play sports, they should do it on their time and dime. 
Tell us where the coach touched you..
 In my wallet. 
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 9:11:47 AM EDT
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6k taxes on a 200k valued house? Did I read that correctly ? Lulz
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They should move to a free state.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 9:13:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/18/2017 9:13:26 AM EDT
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Stadium bond packages are actually pretty rare - the facilities tend to last awhile.  I've not lived in a district in Texas where the football program didn't pay for itself (and usually most of the other sports - especially the title 9 stuff).  So I think making hay about sports stadiums is actually pointless, especially when coupled with actual tax revenue vs spend in Texas public education.
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There should be no high school sports.

You want to play games, get a monopoly board and do it after 3pm.
I'm sure you have an awesome reason why.....
 I do, they are a distraction from the stated goal and suck resources from education. If kids want to play sports, they should do it on their time and dime. 
Tell us where the coach touched you..
 In my wallet. 
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 9:14:21 AM EDT
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And with that, the most dysfunctional area of Texas is more functional than all but the best areas of Alabama.

Its almost as if Alabama is the king of corruption and graft, on a scale to give Chicago pause.

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We pay taxes on food of course, State of Alabama hasn't found a thing its not in favor of taxing yet.
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I remember property taxes being low
But damn. Sales tax and income tax  
I was born in Alabama and love it.
But when I lived in Florida and Texas I could see the difference.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 9:16:37 AM EDT
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I agree with people who are saying sports should be extra-curricular. The schools should not be involved at all.
Schools should focus on education. If a student wants to play a sport, it should be after school in a private club or organization with no affiliation to any school.
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"It's something that this community wanted," Katy ISD Superintendent Lance Hindt told KTRK. "I don't think the cost was anything that they really looked into."

But that title might not last long because in Texas, high school football is taken seriously -- and serious money is spent on stadiums.

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That serious money would have been better spent on teachers and curriculum.
Ridiculous.
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All so that 1 kid every few years
might get drafted.
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A mind  running back is a terrible thing to waste
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I remember property taxes being low
But damn. Sales tax and income tax  
I was born in Alabama and love it.
But when I lived in Florida and Texas I could see the difference.  
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And with that, the most dysfunctional area of Texas is more functional than all but the best areas of Alabama.

Its almost as if Alabama is the king of corruption and graft, on a scale to give Chicago pause.

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We pay taxes on food of course, State of Alabama hasn't found a thing its not in favor of taxing yet.
I remember property taxes being low
But damn. Sales tax and income tax  
I was born in Alabama and love it.
But when I lived in Florida and Texas I could see the difference.  
I love Alabama too, and don't see myself moving, but it infuriates me the way this joint is ran, if you think the DC swamp is bad, the Montgomery swamp is just as deep and fetid, they just don't have as much authority.
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mancow is absolutely correct.
Look at the countries that are kicking our asses when it comes to education.
Sports are not part of school. They have private clubs for that.

It's ridiculous how much time is taken away from education to promote sports during the school week.
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