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Steel darts at HV with no propellants on board sounds awesome The advances beyond our lifetimes will be phenomenal View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Steel darts at HV with no propellants on board sounds awesome The advances beyond our lifetimes will be phenomenal View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Electromagnetic Railgun Firing Hypervelocity Projectile @ Mach 7 |
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If/when they do, the technology/material sciences will be highly secret. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Two questions: 1. How practical is that thing in terms of energy requirements, maintenance, etc. 2. How is it superior to conventional ordnance? Is it the answer to a Buck Rogers question that really doesn't need answering? I mean, it's cool and all, but isn't it bazillions of dollars when we already have guns? View Quote See how silly that sounds now? |
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The smoke ane report (and fireball) come from superheating the air through near instantaneous compression.
The air turns into a plasma when compressed, then expands rapidly. The Oxygen is ignited. |
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This is not a salvo. View Quote Looking at everything they shot in the video, I'd guess it's an initial validation of the loading mechanism and the charging/firing system to see if it all works when put together. Either way, the railgun is a project I find fascinating and I am excited af to know something that badass is going to go from sci-fi to reality in my lifetime! I can't wait for the rest of the effects on target footage to be declassified |
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The smoke ane report (and fireball) come from superheating the air through near instantaneous compression. The air turns into a plasma when compressed, then expands rapidly. The Oxygen is ignited. View Quote It needs a fuel. Like the aluminum of the projectile. |
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2 shots is a salvo. Just a small one. Looking at everything they shot in the video, I'd guess it's an initial validation of the loading mechanism and the charging/firing system to see if it all works when put together. Either way, the railgun is a project I find fascinating and I am excited af to know something that badass is going to go from sci-fi to reality in my lifetime! I can't wait for the effects on target footage to be declassified View Quote Remember how you pronounce idiot in French.... EDO. |
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[1900]Why should we switch to an internal combustion engine automobile? Steam powered trains and horses do just as good of a job now for a lot cheaper"[/1900] See how silly that sounds now? View Quote |
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Technical question for you Navy peeps. Is there a way to southern-engineer this underneath a carrier deck and hook the plane-holder thing up to it so that when it goes bang the plane launches?
Just trying to help with those next-gen catapult problems. |
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I really want to know how they figured out rail erosion. The technology for guidance, capacitors, etc has been there since the 90s but rail life was awful. View Quote They are pushing for something like Mach 7 velocities. Would it give effective use at Mach 5 with longer barrel life? |
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admittedly ignorant question. They are pushing for something like Mach 7 velocities. Would it give effective use at Mach 5 with longer barrel life? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I really want to know how they figured out rail erosion. The technology for guidance, capacitors, etc has been there since the 90s but rail life was awful. They are pushing for something like Mach 7 velocities. Would it give effective use at Mach 5 with longer barrel life? |
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admittedly ignorant question. They are pushing for something like Mach 7 velocities. Would it give effective use at Mach 5 with longer barrel life? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I really want to know how they figured out rail erosion. The technology for guidance, capacitors, etc has been there since the 90s but rail life was awful. They are pushing for something like Mach 7 velocities. Would it give effective use at Mach 5 with longer barrel life? Edit: here's some engineering speak that I only understand the non-math parts of Mind you this isn't the military grade stuff, just some guys making them at home, so it's likely refined a lot but the general concept is the same. http://www.powerlabs.org/railgun2.htm Theory (a simplified overview): RailGuns differ from other means of accelerating objects in that the acceleration in the rails occurs purely by magnetic repulsion. This magnetic force is termed a "Lorentz Force", and it has been shown to be: Frg = 1/2*dL/dX * I2 [1]. The dL/dX term can also be written as L', the inductance gradient of the rails. From this equation it can thus be seen that even in a well designed Rail Gun (high inductance gradient), the most predominant factor in determining exit velocity will always be the power supply current. Thus it follows that in order to produce high muzzle velocities, long rails and/or very high currents must be used. Unfortunately, maintaining a high current through a long pair of rails requires a lot of energy (Current * Voltage * Time), and with high currents high rates of rail erosion have so far been unavoidable. The exit velocity of a rail gun can be estimated through the equation: V=u+L'/2m * (integral 0?t) I2dt [1] , where u is the injection velocity. Although this equation is of limited use unless the exact shape of the current pulse is known, it once again it demonstrates the importance of a high current. It also states the obvious fact that higher exit velocities will be attainable with higher injection velocities. Not easily seen from the equation, but equally important, is the fact that at higher injection velocities the electrical arcing and ohmic heating between the projectile and the rails will not have as much time to heat the rail surfaces to vaporization. Thus, up to a certain point, a higher injection velocity will help minimize rail damage[10]. It will also prevent rail/projectile spot welding, which can occur at zero injection velocities and low powers on metal/metal contacts. Given the energy expenditure of accelerating the projectile electrically, and the advantages of pre-injection, it makes sense to impart as much initial velocity to the projectile as possible, and only then allow the electric action to do what it is most effective at: attaining velocities that would not be feasible with a gas injection mechanism alone. Resistive losses in a Rail Gun are given by: Wr= R0(integral 0?t)i2dt = 2R0(mv)/L' . With mv being the momentum of the projectile, it can be seen that energy loss in a railgun is proportional to projectile momentum (not kinetic energy, as might be expected), and can be minimized by increasing the induction gradient. This would imply that rail guns are most efficient at accelerating light payloads, which would steer research towards smaller bores; however it has been shown experimentally [9] that with very small calibers (<18mm) the efficiency of a railgun decreases with smaller size bores. Clearly other factors are involved, some of which still unknown. For the sake of simplicity and clarity I will limit myself to these and only a few more equations on this write up. The interested reader is invited to seek further knowledge by reading the sources cited at the bottom of the page (as opposed to creating yet another copy of my design, like so many others seemingly incapable of creative thought and engineering design) |
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Sounds awesome but how effective will it be. I'm assuming these fast rounds will not be guided and the idea is long range so how accurate will they be?
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Sounds awesome but how effective will it be. I'm assuming these fast rounds will not be guided and the idea is long range so how accurate will they be? View Quote |
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At max (published) range, you're looking around 9.2 seconds time on target and hitting like a 1000lb bomb. Mind you, I have no idea on if the numbers on the impact match up, but it's what I've read. 8,200fps covers a crapton of distance real fast. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sounds awesome but how effective will it be. I'm assuming these fast rounds will not be guided and the idea is long range so how accurate will they be? Naval bombardment of inland cities from international waters with cheap munitions. America! |
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Incredibly effective. The KE is astronomical. Years ago they were talking about guided munitions with a possible 200 mile range in bigger guns. Naval bombardment of inland cities from international waters with cheap munitions. America! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sounds awesome but how effective will it be. I'm assuming these fast rounds will not be guided and the idea is long range so how accurate will they be? Naval bombardment of inland cities from international waters with cheap munitions. America! |
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Except for the nuke reactors needed to power it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What's the point? What do they plan to shoot, other than the taxpayer's wallets? Still a hell of a lot safer than a full magazine of shells if something goes wrong or they take a hit. Then again, fuck if I know what will happen if caps that big pop off. It needs a lot of power, and nukes are probably the best way to get that power, but there's no magic about nuke power. |
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Incredibly effective. The KE is astronomical. Years ago they were talking about guided munitions with a possible 200 mile range in bigger guns. Naval bombardment of inland cities from international waters with cheap munitions. America! View Quote |
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The issue with that idea, I think, is coming up with a guidance package that can withstand the G forces involved in 0-8500 fps acceleration in a couple milliseconds. Not to mention the magnetic field it would be exposed to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Incredibly effective. The KE is astronomical. Years ago they were talking about guided munitions with a possible 200 mile range in bigger guns. Naval bombardment of inland cities from international waters with cheap munitions. America! |
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Shooting things into orbit without chemical rockets could be amazing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Completely out of my knowledge set here, but given the velocity and time to target (unless at over the horizon distances like above) can't modern fire control systems and radar plot that pretty accurately? I don't think they need it to be more accurate than your standard artillery and all. Although a guidance package would make it more accurate, it would also drive up the cost a good chunk IMO. View Quote |
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Yeah, but lokifox was talking about NSFS at 200 NM ranges. Granted, you're shooting at large stationary targets with a known position in that scenario (an airfield for example), but getting any more accuracy than old-time ballistic calculations can give you is hard. Hitting a specific building would involve a lot of luck. View Quote We could always find a way to mount a mini one on an A-10 or make a new AC-5 gunship |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO_zXuOQy6A Put that bastard on the USS Giffords! If dupe, pls delete. Search yielded nothing View Quote Why, so it can half ass work like the Ford's EMC (electro magnetic catapult)? Fuck that, these companies need to have models ready to field before we buy and install shit. The tech is still in need of much R&D before it's combat ready. But, it is starting to look very promising. |
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Potentially stupid question. Why is there a cloud of smoke after it fires when it isn't burning propellent? View Quote |
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Mass Effect 2 - Newton Drill Sergeant |
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Shooting things into orbit without chemical rockets could be amazing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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admittedly ignorant question. They are pushing for something like Mach 7 velocities. Would it give effective use at Mach 5 with longer barrel life? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
admittedly ignorant question. They are pushing for something like Mach 7 velocities. Would it give effective use at Mach 5 with longer barrel life? Quoted:
Sounds awesome but how effective will it be. I'm assuming these fast rounds will not be guided and the idea is long range so how accurate will they be? |
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The issue with that idea, I think, is coming up with a guidance package that can withstand the G forces involved in 0-8500 fps acceleration in a couple milliseconds. Not to mention the magnetic field it would be exposed to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Incredibly effective. The KE is astronomical. Years ago they were talking about guided munitions with a possible 200 mile range in bigger guns. Naval bombardment of inland cities from international waters with cheap munitions. America! |
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Why, so it can half ass work like the Ford's EMC (electro magnetic catapult)? Fuck that, these companies need to have models ready to field before we buy and install shit. The tech is still in need of much R&D before it's combat ready. But, it is starting to look very promising. View Quote |
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