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Link Posted: 6/29/2017 12:17:45 AM EDT
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Chinese R & D = Rip-off & Duplicate

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It's very common place for the Chinese to use a company's product tooling and resources to make their own knock-offs on 2nd and 3rd shift. 
Chinese R & D = Rip-off & Duplicate

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Some (a lot) of products are badge engineered, produced on the same assembly line. They aren't knockoffs or copies, they are the same product with different badging.

I was researching rotary polishers one night and found a chinese wholesale site that had a whole production list of them, different sizes and colors.
One of the color combos was kind of unique, it just so happened to match that of a high end rotary polisher. Further digging found them to be utterly identical.

My Craftsman drill press is identical to the HF one, right down to the casting pattern and location of the "manufacturer" plate.

My somewhat pricey Generac gas pressure washer has a 6.5hp engine that is identical to the HF unit. I nuked the engine in the thing a few months ago and bought one of the 6.5 predator engines to replace it. Utterly plug and play.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 12:17:47 AM EDT
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Then there's Apple Cabin Foods, a subsidiary of Harbor Freight
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Holyyy fuckkkkkkkkk I just laughed my ass off reading those out loud to my wife.  

Thanks for that.  I seriously needed a good laugh.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 12:17:49 AM EDT
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My SnapOn just like that one is crap after a few years of extremely mild homeowner use.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 12:30:17 AM EDT
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I bought one of the HF's a few months ago, because my Snap on went tits up and they told me to pound sand, the HF one works great and I have no problem with it, for what I paid for the Snap On, I will be able to purchase 5 of the HF models when they are on sale with the coupon.

I have a lot of HF tools and have never broke one of them.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 12:52:44 AM EDT
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All that plastic on the HF gun wont survive multiple dropsy test.

How many mechanics have dropped their air guns and the keep right on working.

That plastic is going to give.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 1:08:20 AM EDT
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I went to their headquarters in California this past December to interview for an engineering test lab manager position. Nice place, but hell with living there.

They are working on entering the pro tool market. They want to sell tools to contractors and other professionals.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 1:41:31 AM EDT
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The one I got in the mail today said their Predator generator is better than a Honda.
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The one I got in the mail today said their Predator generator is better than a Honda.
I used the fuck out lf their predator generator all summer in 110+ degree heat for 10hrs a day 2 yrs in a row. Its totally worth it. I sold it to ankther guy and its still running fine 2 yrs later.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 1:45:56 AM EDT
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Some stuff there is great quality.  Their ratchets are top notch.
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Good to know. My 3/8 crescent took a dump
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 1:52:58 AM EDT
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My company was rated the #1 supplier to timkin world wide.


I know a bit about timkin.
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Just an FYI, Timken has factories overseas and at least some of their foreign competition has factories in the US.
My company was rated the #1 supplier to timkin world wide.


I know a bit about timkin.
Just not enough to spell their name correctly.

It's Timken.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 1:59:52 AM EDT
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Its a skookum choocher
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 2:35:59 AM EDT
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HF gave almost a million to Hildabeest and the dems.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000023238
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 2:36:26 AM EDT
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Just not enough to spell their name correctly.

It's Timken.
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BOOM!!!

Was going to post this...

Lol!!!

I always use Timken trailer bearings...
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:11:37 AM EDT
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HF gave almost a million to Hildabeest and the dems.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000023238
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Intresting
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:12:22 AM EDT
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BOOM!!!

Was going to post this...

Lol!!!

I always use Timken trailer bearings...
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I'll blame phone and drunk...

6 days off starts today.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:13:13 AM EDT
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HF...
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:17:47 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:32:11 AM EDT
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yah..   they did the same thing comparing their generator to a Honda.. lmao..
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:35:41 AM EDT
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Good AvE vid on the topic

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what the fuck does this guy speak actual English....?
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:45:13 AM EDT
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That is an outright lie.

But par for the course in arfcom tool threads. 
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They appear nearly the same other than the color and slight frame differences and both originate from China.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:45:28 AM EDT
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This.

He was kind of pissed that they make that claim. In reality, it's less than a 300lb gun.
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His test rig is fucked..

There are multiple other videos showing them the same.  He wont answer any questions of why his calcs were so far off.

I love his vids but this one sucked
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:45:46 AM EDT
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This.

He was kind of pissed that they make that claim. In reality, it's less than a 300lb gun.
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His test rig is fucked..

There are multiple other videos showing them the same.  He wont answer any questions of why his calcs were so far off.

I love his vids but this one sucked
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:46:04 AM EDT
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HF makes some stuff that is absolute garbage
and some stuff that just flat out works

I still think my best purchase is a $30 electric impact
I had no access to air so I ran out and bought one to fix a tractor out in a field
stretched out a butt load of extension cord and boom done

paid for itself the first time
but has continued to impress the shit out of me for 6 years or so now

my most recent purchase was the upgraded mig carts they started carrying....  identical to northern tool cart
much cheaper when on sale and with a coupon... its one hell of a mig cart
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:51:40 AM EDT
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same here

and their top of the line floor jack is way better then snap ons $600 version for the same thing, Snap on just lost to HF about the jack in court and it came out that they were/are made on the same line

HF has come a long way on their "premium" line stuff
granted they still have lots of other shitty tools but some nice ones as well

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Indeed. I bought that jack (Daytona) and it is Grade-Fucking-A! Lifts fast, lowers very controllably and is SOLID. If anything my only complaint is that it's HEAVY!!
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 10:00:31 AM EDT
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Around here it's much easier to deal with the dumbass at the Hazard Frought store than the Strap-on guy.

Having to wait once a week for the tool guy to show up is ridiculous.  And then he never has one in his truck....

Tool guys need to go away, just sell your shit on Amazon like everybody else.

I spent a good stint as a mechanic during and after college.  I bought lots of used tools, MAC and Snap-on, but most of my tools were and still are S-K.

Same quality, fraction of the price.  Craftsman isn't bad, but if you use it everyday... yeah you'll start looking for better stuff.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 10:17:26 AM EDT
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Freudian slip?
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Strap On , Fap On, Etc. are AVE-isims
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 10:23:55 AM EDT
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I like the smell
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The only thing I hate about Harbor freight is the gassing off of cheap Chinese polymer stench that always makes me want to puke every time I enter their store.

I usd their 3 ton jack on my Land Cruiser all the time, works just fine.
I like the smell
You can just smell the cancer... AVE again.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 10:27:52 AM EDT
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what the fuck does this guy speak actual English....?
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Good AvE vid on the topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmqKp6k9F-I
what the fuck does this guy speak actual English....?
French too
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 10:34:18 AM EDT
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All that plastic on the HF gun wont survive multiple dropsy test.

How many mechanics have dropped their air guns and the keep right on working.

That plastic is going to give.
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That's a gross over simplification of "plastic". Some composites are more impact resistant than the metal casing you'd normally find in an impact, and will transfer less stress to the internals.

It's really dependent on the quality and type of the materials used.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 11:08:49 AM EDT
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That is an outright lie.

But par for the course in arfcom tool threads. 
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Then i sure as hell read the court ruling wrong then, thats what i thought it said when it was linked here in the past. I remeber a thread asking about the jack and someone posting a link to the court ruling and HF winning the lawsuit against snapon

if i am wrong i will go back and edit the post

@Spent_Casing
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 11:22:11 AM EDT
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IR beats the hell out of Snap On air tools. Chicago Pneumatic makes SO's air tools last I checked.

Snap On doesn't even make their own torque wrenches. Precision Instruments made their split beam tq wrenches, exact same wrench is $150 new from PI, meanwhile idiots pay $250 for a used Snap On branded one on Ebay. CPI now makes the tq wrenches for SO.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 11:22:56 AM EDT
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I buy boxes of the small 1/2 inch throwaway paintbrushes for projects. I have YET to have one fly back out of the trash can.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 11:32:01 AM EDT
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what the fuck does this guy speak actual English....?
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Good AvE vid on the topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmqKp6k9F-I
what the fuck does this guy speak actual English....?
He speaks a more advanced language.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 7:46:56 PM EDT
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I own a snap on mg725 it's my favorite impact however after 4 years and a so rebuild that caused lots of moisture to go through it air lines it but the dust. My snap on rep is in over his head so I can't get anything from him now. I bought a Matco that looks like the Ingersoll Rand, I miss my snap on.

The composite shell on the matco is fine the Shell on the snap on is magnesium. I've also popped open my snap on and the inner works do not look the same as that hf impact. I've heard over at the garage journal forums that the earthquake is a good gun though.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 8:19:34 PM EDT
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Harbor Freight quality has gone up significantly over the last ten years.
There is a lot of stuff is a good value for the money...still some things I wouldn't bother with though...
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:05:30 PM EDT
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I like AvE, but sometimes the gibberish a bit damn much. And some of the projects he embarks on are really pretty pointless. But he's usually good for a laugh if nothing else.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:10:17 PM EDT
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Snap on impacts are junk.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:13:18 PM EDT
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Indeed. I bought that jack (Daytona) and it is Grade-Fucking-A! Lifts fast, lowers very controllably and is SOLID. If anything my only complaint is that it's HEAVY!!
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same here

and their top of the line floor jack is way better then snap ons $600 version for the same thing, Snap on just lost to HF about the jack in court and it came out that they were/are made on the same line

HF has come a long way on their "premium" line stuff
granted they still have lots of other shitty tools but some nice ones as well

So this LOL is directed towards the OP
Indeed. I bought that jack (Daytona) and it is Grade-Fucking-A! Lifts fast, lowers very controllably and is SOLID. If anything my only complaint is that it's HEAVY!!
Professional Tool Products is the importer for both jacks.
Link Posted: 7/14/2017 7:32:05 PM EDT
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Bump This Thread

BOLTR: Snap-On vs. Harbor Freight Impact Wrench
Link Posted: 7/14/2017 8:27:06 PM EDT
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I have the Earthquake XT 1/2" and it is damn nice.  Much better than the shitty Craftsman it replaced. It is plenty powerful to spin off ball joints and pinion nuts.
Link Posted: 7/14/2017 8:41:25 PM EDT
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What makes it chooch?
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Chineseum!
Link Posted: 7/14/2017 9:53:40 PM EDT
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Me too.
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I like the smell
Me too.
It makes my eyes water. In a good way. The experience reminds me of the all-encompassing miasma of old-school army surplus stores.
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