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Link Posted: 6/29/2017 12:56:36 AM EDT
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We domt use thorazine. I wish we did.
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It works better on aggression than anything short of anesthesia. I have ketamined a couple people (good thing we have an ECT clinic at our psych hospital to get it from) that didn't respond to 400IM thorazine. Those tend to be the bath salts or PCP cases.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 1:07:07 AM EDT
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I got y'all beat

Had a pt..that was a black kid, I knew from age 15 yo 25. He was bi polar and an asshole. I refused him entry to the ER one night. He was homeless and using the I am gonna hurt myself card. He wanted to be DC..ed earlier in the month as his check came in and wanted to smoke it up.

I tell him to fuk off , he runs to the train tracks and yells my name , then jumps in front oftrain.

I was alone in triage so no-one knew shit..no fuk given.
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Not sure that is something I would be proud of.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 1:11:43 AM EDT
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A friend of mine is a psych professional in the local correctional system. He regularly posts his "inmate quote of day" on Facebook. Some of them are scary, others are hilarious.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 1:19:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/29/2017 1:24:23 AM EDT
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I never went that far.  My hallucinations and weirdness was pretty much internalized.  But have pity on those who end up like this.  It may not be their fault.  Mine was due to a medical event not drug or alcohol abuse.
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I've seen a lot of people with ICU delirium before, I honestly feel terrible for the people who end up with it.  It's a terrible thing to see so I couldn't imagine experiencing it.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 1:52:26 AM EDT
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So, EMTALA violation?  
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I got y'all beat

Had a pt..that was a black kid, I knew from age 15 yo 25. He was bi polar and an asshole. I refused him entry to the ER one night. He was homeless and using the I am gonna hurt myself card. He wanted to be DC..ed earlier in the month as his check came in and wanted to smoke it up.

I tell him to fuk off , he runs to the train tracks and yells my name , then jumps in front oftrain.

I was alone in triage so no-one knew shit..no fuk given.
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So, EMTALA violation?  
Plus 3rd grade spelling and writing. So I'm going to call bullshit.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 2:02:01 AM EDT
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Special K is my favorite.
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One of my partners got himself a ride to magic land by accident. He was trying to dart a combative patient who moved just at the wrong time. The needle bent and went into my partner's own hand instead, as he pushed the plunger. That was the end of his work day.

He's a good egg. As strait-laced an LDS guy as you could imagine. No, imagine that and make him even less of a wild child. He's the grandson of one of the very well-known leaders.

He's going to be the butt of ketamine jokes around here until he retires.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 3:45:52 AM EDT
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One of my partners got himself a ride to magic land by accident. He was trying to dart a combative patient who moved just at the wrong time. The needle bent and went into my partner's own hand instead, as he pushed the plunger. That was the end of his work day.

He's a good egg. As strait-laced an LDS guy as you could imagine. No, imagine that and make him even less of a wild child. He's the grandson of one of the very well-known leaders.

He's going to be the butt of ketamine jokes around here until he retires.
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Special K is my favorite.
One of my partners got himself a ride to magic land by accident. He was trying to dart a combative patient who moved just at the wrong time. The needle bent and went into my partner's own hand instead, as he pushed the plunger. That was the end of his work day.

He's a good egg. As strait-laced an LDS guy as you could imagine. No, imagine that and make him even less of a wild child. He's the grandson of one of the very well-known leaders.

He's going to be the butt of ketamine jokes around here until he retires.


I got about half a B52 that way once, on the floor holding down a combative dude tripping on acid. Motherfucker.

We had a dude shrug off 100 of propofol the other day. The doc was bewildered for a sec. Had never seen that happen before. It was kind of amusing except for the dude trying to grab me by the balls.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 3:53:46 AM EDT
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This is so true. I get called into rooms all the time - especially in the ER - as those patients are always breaking things. It is never a fun experience.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:20:30 AM EDT
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That sucks.

We never give anyone more than one ride. If you cant dogpile and prep to cuff or restrain a guy during the 5 second ride, more training is needed. That said, shit happens.

That said, to protect myself and.my staff id gladly provide as many lightning rides as neceessary.

Some years back i got domed by a psych pt with a stainless surgical tray. Because we were on a big PC handle them with kid gloves kick. If he had turned it on edge just a little more, it may have killed me. To this day it blows my fucking mind that nurses are stupid enough to leave them at hand, they always pop them out of the stands and start throwing or swinging them.

Fuck that.

I treat every last ome of them with respect, like human beings. Until they get violent. Then we respectfully do what needs doing.
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That's good to know.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a stainless tray just laying in a room though.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 9:44:21 AM EDT
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I've seen a lot of people with ICU delirium before, I honestly feel terrible for the people who end up with it.  It's a terrible thing to see so I couldn't imagine experiencing it.
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It's not fun.  I was convinced there was a gnome living on the wall behind a wall mounted PC.  And the nurses were running pharmaceutical drugs and putting out for cash for zoot suit wearing motorcycle guys pulling up outside.  Never mind I was on the 4th floor.    And at one point I was in a Vietnam hooch waiting for incoming.  It all seemed real at the time.  

Lucky for the staff I was weakened and had a large hose running through me to a drainage pump so I could not actually do anything but lay there and hallucinate.  All they had to do was check on me, administer drugs, and occasionally clean me up.  Towards the end actually help me get to the john.  Imagine not using a head for over 2 months.    Hope I never get there again.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 10:15:45 AM EDT
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A few weeks ago I was sitting in the ER waiting room, and some woman walks up and starts asking people there if they have a bus pass she could use.  She is clearly confused, or fucked up in some manner, another person said that the front desk hands out taxi token or some shit, and walked her up there.  Weird woman sits down in a waiting room vhair, and a few minutes later a cop walls up to talk to her, standard questions until he gets to why she is at the hospital.

She claimed her head hurt, but staff wouldn't see her.  Cop asks her how many times she's came to the hospital today... turns out she's been here 7 times today, wandering the halls til she gets kicked out, then comes back.  Cop asks if she's had anything to drink, yep, and was very concerned that hospital staff stole her bottle of vodka.

Nurse walks out and hands cop a bag with a bottle of vodka in it.  "Hey! that's mine! Give it back"  

Cop asks if she has anywhere to go, nope, dad kicked her out because she has a drinking problem, so she went to liquor store and bought vodka and came to hospital.  

The person mentioned earlier that walked her up to ask for a taxi token decides to step in and interupt the cop.  Rambling on about how this poor woman obviously has a problem, and alcoholism is a disease and she needs treatment.  Cop promptly tells her to shut up and mind her own business.  

Cop then continues talking to woman, trying to use logic about how if she stopped drinking, maybe she would have a place to live.  Nope, does not compute, and she is then escorted to the patrol car for some reason, but not before making sure to remind the cop not to forget to bring her vodka.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 10:27:12 AM EDT
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Hahaha. First time I've heard that. Stealing this.
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Hypoativanemia
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 10:35:22 AM EDT
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My wife is an RN, per dieme for the hospital, but has a pretty set schedule of when she works.  Every Tuesday she does a 3p-3a shift and I bring her coffee on my way home from work.  Today she got pulled from her normal floor and sent to the ICU.  I've never been in the ICU so I fumbled my way through the halls until I found it, also I didn't know anyone on the floor or where my wife's station was.  I went to the central desk on the ICU and asked where she was, got a funny look and told somewhere down that way, but she's probably in a room.  I turned in that direction and saw absolutely no one except a transport team and security gathered outside a room.  Not a single nurse or aid in sight.  I'm thinking oh god I hope that's not her patient.  I strolled down that way and propped up against an empty nurses station near the transport team.  Then I hear my wife's voice coming from that room with everyone outside it, great, her night is going to be complete hell.  

Then I hear all of the following phrases, randomly repeated multiple times, just in varying states of yelling:
Fuck you
That's illegal
Don't fucking touch me
You can't do that to me
I know my rights
You all saw her do that to me
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?!?!
You're going to jail you fucking bitch
No, fuck you
NO NO NO NO
Get out

As this crazy bitch is coming unglued, I hear my wife laying down the law in the most professional way possible and completely keeping her cool.  My wife comes out of the room fast, I assume to keep from losing her shit, sees me and just gives me that look and smiles at me.  Mid-smile I hear "Fuck you, stay out of my room, you stay out of here skinny little cunt bitch, fuck her."

My wife instantly turns around, springs into the room and says in the sweetest tone, "I'm sorry, did you need something?"   This was met with a thunderous wave of "FUUUUCK YOU", my wife storming out, and three other nurses coming out of the room nearly in tears laughing.

I've heard stories from her of these patients so many times, but catching it in real life for the first time was hilarious.
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I take it she hasn't been a nurse long.....
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 12:08:34 PM EDT
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I recall an ER doc that was legend. He was an old army doc and was gruff, but very good. If you were 
a drunk and idiot and gave the nurses a hard time he used a lot of staples to repair your head wound.
I have seen them with what looked like a railroad track running around their head. He was launched
into legendary status when a frequent flyer drunk pulled a knife on him. He grabbed the hand, flipped
him around and disarmed him. He was the man.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 12:12:09 PM EDT
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Or the nosey woman in the waiting room who's trying to get your family member's life story and exactly what's wrong.
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OMG THIS!!!

I told one woman, look I appreciate that you are trying to care but you are not getting my life story or why I am here. So please quit hinting around.
Then my grandmother walks in and tells the entire story to her..... 
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 12:23:33 PM EDT
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If I were you I would of had a few words for that jackass for dissing my woman like that.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 12:35:36 PM EDT
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Haldol just pisses them off worse by that point.  Thorazine, on the other hand....
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I remember a few years back, an associate of mine indicated some preference for geodon for that kind of issue.

This was after a particularly well told anecdote regarding a 400 pound psychotic woman standing naked on a desk and hosing off anyone that got close with breast milk.

Y'all don't get paid enough to deal with that shit.  
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 12:46:03 PM EDT
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@BigPony

Tell them all your stories

Edit: did not see that you're already posting in this thread
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I remember a few years back, an associate of mine indicated some preference for geodon for that kind of issue.

This was after a particularly well told anecdote regarding a 400 pound psychotic woman standing naked on a desk and hosing off anyone that got close with breast milk.

Y'all don't get paid enough to deal with that shit.  
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We had one that kept trying to climb out his 3rd floor window, who kept escalating despite several doses of Haldol 10 mg IM.  200 mg IM Thorazine took the starch out of him.

Geodon works good too, if you have the time to let it work.  When the chairs and table legs start flying, you need something with a faster onset.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 3:22:46 PM EDT
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We had one that kept trying to climb out his 3rd floor window, who kept escalating despite several doses of Haldol 10 mg IM.  200 mg IM Thorazine took the starch out of him.

Geodon works good too, if you have the time to let it work.  When the chairs and table legs start flying, you need something with a faster onset.
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Read that phrase with with all the attitude and satisfaction of the poster. Brings back memories.
Rule #1: never, never, never, ever, ever trust a nut. No matter how nice they seem to be. They can go from calm to an F5 tornado in the blink of an eye.
If things look like they are going iffy, take off your glasses or anything else that you don't want broken. Nothing like the satisfaction and relief of being on the floor,
rooms a mess, out of breath and hearing the second handcuff click closed. 
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Read that phrase with with all the attitude and satisfaction of the poster. Brings back memories.
Rule #1: never, never, never, ever, ever trust a nut. No matter how nice they seem to be. They can go from calm to an F5 tornado in the blink of an eye.
If things look like they are going iffy, take off your glasses or anything else that you don't want broken. Nothing like the satisfaction and relief of being on the floor,
rooms a mess, out of breath and hearing the second handcuff click closed. 
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I sometimes empty my pockets and waistband of anything that could be grabbed and weaponized (pens, stethoscope, pocket knife, etc.) and remove my wristwatch before entering some rooms, much like going into the MRI.

The last ketamine dart I did went really well, all things considered. To avoid the usual tornadic chaos, I assembled a hasty team and made an entry plan. We stacked 5 of us outside the door and flowed into the room with surprise. One person went to each limb and held it, I threw my torso over both upper legs and gave the individual a buttock full of ketamine.
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Had a ding dong take a swing at me when the card dcd his diluadid (cath negative), he was allergic to morphine of course.

Said it once and I'll say it again, I honestly don't know how you career people do it.  I didn't last a decade.
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What do you do for a living now?
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I sometimes empty my pockets and waistband of anything that could be grabbed and weaponized (pens, stethoscope, pocket knife, etc.) and remove my wristwatch before entering some rooms, much like going into the MRI.

The last ketamine dart I did went really well, all things considered. To avoid the usual tornadic chaos, I assembled a hasty team and made an entry plan. We stacked 5 of us outside the door and flowed into the room with surprise. One person went to each limb and held it, I threw my torso over both upper legs and gave the individual a buttock full of ketamine.
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It's good when a plan works. The state hospital here had a bunch of guys who were built like linemen from the
60's NFL. When someone was just a little too out of control they rolled in. No matter how much crazy strength 
you had, you were no match. Too much meat descending on you.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 7:47:07 PM EDT
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Dude, that's every fucking day in an inpatient facility.  Seriously.  EVERY DAY.
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What I did before and during mursing which is environmental permitting in construction / mining / assorted other industries, site inspections, erosion control.  Occassionally have to present at public forums (city council, state required public hearings, etc), along with some random skid work.  

Arocking me would be no challenge but my customers wouldn't give a crap about what I spout here.  Not like I'm a big deal thou, not saying that at all.  I'm an extremely small shop.  My customers are all like minded, tons of AR guys and hunters.

I'm the evil, soulless, gun for fire that gets your project permitted and legal.  At times despite public objection.  I've been called a baby killer and put through the wringer by stupid big city dem politicians doing this.  Had EPA on 2 sites in the last 6 weeks, kinda stressful at times.  

But not like the night I got floated to the ER and took a blindside right to the jaw from a psychotic methhead.  Or the grieving Palestinian family (i think muzzies none the less) screaming and beating themselves as they cussed us after a code.  Grandma had a massive, massive AAA that let go.  On and on, etc.  Not to mention my disdain for healthcare middle and corporate management.  Not the world I belong in at all.

I had a BS Biology (environmental science track) prior to nursing.  Walked away in 2015 as the north TX economy picked up and my client list continued to grow.  I'd have to be a specialty NP or CRNA to match where I'm at today.  Honestly at my age and stage in life (father), I didn't have the energy nor inclination to pursue that avenue.  

Sorry for length, I've had a beer already.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 7:58:15 PM EDT
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I wonder if it has to do with the shuttering of many "institutions" starting back in the Clinton days.

Every service industry person in the medical field tells me that it's getting worse and worse for them dealing with people who should be under some sort of care. I see it in my field. I do a few apartment buildings for low income and elderly. They have case workers stop in once every two weeks or so and let them self medicate. By the looks of it, it's not going well. I see some crazy shit. The property managers basically manage their checkbooks for them as the SS checks roll in. The wander around like zombies and just barely exist. Some do drive and they all carpool to Walmart for their shit.

My wife....an Optician for decades now, says people come in screaming and demanding shit, not wanting to pay anything because they are "entitled to it". I never heard of them having to call the police before, but in the past three years, it's a monthly occurrence. She's done in 6 more working days for good. Says the people, in general of society have changed.

So yes, I believe these horror stories.
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Sorry, FIFY
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 10:35:57 PM EDT
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I've seen a lot of people with ICU delirium before, I honestly feel terrible for the people who end up with it.  It's a terrible thing to see so I couldn't imagine experiencing it.
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I never went that far.  My hallucinations and weirdness was pretty much internalized.  But have pity on those who end up like this.  It may not be their fault.  Mine was due to a medical event not drug or alcohol abuse.
I've seen a lot of people with ICU delirium before, I honestly feel terrible for the people who end up with it.  It's a terrible thing to see so I couldn't imagine experiencing it.
Mine seemed to me like it was a movie I was watching, but I only got to view small parts of it.  I was told what I did, and it was quite scary.  I'm not that kind of person.  I remember being put in restraints.  I was in ICU for a heart condition.  As my wife said.  I was sick.  I was in restraints, they got me calmed down.  The last thing I heard was a nurse say, you're going to feel a stick in the front of my leg.  Then nothing.
Link Posted: 6/30/2017 5:02:50 AM EDT
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That's good to know.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a stainless tray just laying in a room though.
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The nurses in our hospital are lazy and stupid. Most hate security and don't want them around, but will be screaming from the rooftops if they don't show up RFN if things go sideways. The nurses are just as mind fucked as the window lickers they watch.
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NC closed down Dorothea Dix hospital some time ago. It was one of the few psych
hospitals here and I have taken many people there. I have no idea where the
patients were farmed out to. The patients ran the whole scale from not too bad
to the criminally insane. 

The way it worked was: you get the commitment papers and picked the person up.
You took them to the ER where the ER doc looked at them and either released them
or called the psych nurse. They then called the psych doc. Sooner or later he decided
to come in and he either released them or decided to keep them at the hospital psych
ward or send the to Dix. A deputy took them to Dix and it took a couple of hours for
they made up their mind to keep or release. 

All this took a lot of time and if I got weary of all the time spent then imagine if you
are a mental patient in handcuffs during that time. Who wouldn't get squirrely during
that? 
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I wonder if it has to do with the shuttering of many "institutions" starting back in the Clinton days.

Every service industry person in the medical field tells me that it's getting worse and worse for them dealing with people who should be under some sort of care. I see it in my field. I do a few apartment buildings for low income and elderly. They have case workers stop in once every two weeks or so and let them self medicate. By the looks of it, it's not going well. I see some crazy shit. The property managers basically manage their checkbooks for them as the SS checks roll in. The wander around like zombies and just barely exist. Some do drive and they all carpool to Walmart for their shit.

My wife....an Optician for decades now, says people come in screaming and demanding shit, not wanting to pay anything because they are "entitled to it". I never heard of them having to call the police before, but in the past three years, it's a monthly occurrence. She's done in 6 more working days for good. Says the people, in general of society have changed.

So yes, I believe these horror stories.
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It was Reagan who shut down the psych hospitals, not Clinton.
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Dude, that's every fucking day in an inpatient facility.  Seriously.  EVERY DAY.
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Oh hell yeah. I do 15-50 restraints a week. All bare hands, no mechanicals. Helps keep my youthful figure.
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The nurses in our hospital are lazy and stupid. Most hate security and don't want them around, but will be screaming from the rooftops if they don't show up RFN if things go sideways. The nurses are just as mind fucked as the window lickers they watch.
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We nurses ARE the security at our hospital. The "security guards" aren't allowed to touch patients.
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Yep and detox facilities.
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We nurses ARE the security at our hospital. The "security guards" aren't allowed to touch patients.
Yep.  Seen THAT moronic policy before.
I can give you a worse policy. Patient with an active warrant for a particularly gruesome murder; transferred from a neighboring state. Jurisdiction disputes happened (i.e. "We're not arresting him, because we don't want the expense and staffing headaches." "Well, we're not doing it just because you dumped him in our AO. You know where he is. Come take custody").

So the hospital CEO decided that the best course of action was to assign a brand new teenage patient care associate as a "sitter." No security, because reasons. No police because nobody made enough stink about it. This wasn't a case of "yeah, they think this might be the guy." He was in the hospital as a direct result of the circumstances surrounding his alleged crime.

This was not a nice individual, and I'm happy he elected not to become violent in the perioperative period.
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Another day in the life....

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I am fortunate to work at an Army DOD facility and our patient population is quite different than the civilian facilities. The most trouble I usually have is from the dependents we treat and the family members that come to visit. The ward I work on we mostly see retired military in the 50+ age group.

When we have a retired service member sun-downing or acting a fool then SFC Outlaw comes in for a visit and knocks them back into basic training. Usually it works when you have a 6'3" 270lb tattooed guy yelling "at ease" for them to quiet the fuck down.

I rarely have to push and medications to calm people down. Most of the time it just takes sitting down with them and asking them what they did in the military. Us old guys love talking about the time we shot a jap, german, korean or a goat fucker in the face.  

There was a time when you would see lots of nurses and doctors out at the smoke pit, chain smoking to cope during the day and drinking at night. It's also why you hear about nurses and sometimes doctors diverting narcotics for personal use. I have personally known a few people that have done it and got busted hard for it, as in Leavenworth hard time.

Me I don't really let anything affect me personally. To me, it's just business. When I walk off the floor, if all my patients are still alive or in as good a shape or better than when I took over care for them at the beginning of my shift, then that's all I give a shit about. As soon as I make it to my truck to drive home, I've already forgotten most of the stupid shit that happened that day. I have a beer or two, eat dinner and have fun with the wife, go to sleep and do it all again the next shift.
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We nurses ARE the security at our hospital. The "security guards" aren't allowed to touch patients.
Yep.  Seen THAT moronic policy before.
It is frankly a benefit and not a drawback. We're damned good at it (and at avoiding it when we can), the same company provides security at our sister medical facility across town, but there they can lay hands on. It does not work out well. We are also better at the physical security of our facility than the guards. LOTS of ex.mil amongst our nurses, many infantry or other hands-on types.
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FPNI....
Link Posted: 7/1/2017 7:05:29 PM EDT
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Behold, the power of vitamin G

Link Posted: 7/1/2017 8:26:28 PM EDT
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Yeah, but that ain't most hospitals.  110-lb-soaking-wet Sweet Polly Purebred is not going toe-to-toe with methhead biker.   She'll end up permanently injured, on disability, and with her career prematurely cut short.  A colleague of mine lost an eye to a psych patient.

Security is a necessity in hospitals.
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It is frankly a benefit and not a drawback. We're damned good at it (and at avoiding it when we can), the same company provides security at our sister medical facility across town, but there they can lay hands on. It does not work out well. We are also better at the physical security of our facility than the guards. LOTS of ex.mil amongst our nurses, many infantry or other hands-on types.
Yeah, but that ain't most hospitals.  110-lb-soaking-wet Sweet Polly Purebred is not going toe-to-toe with methhead biker.   She'll end up permanently injured, on disability, and with her career prematurely cut short.  A colleague of mine lost an eye to a psych patient.

Security is a necessity in hospitals.
You'd be surprised what a herd of 110lbs 25yo nurses can accomplish in a gang tackle, lol. My girlfriend has been a psych tech there for 10 years. Shes far better at taking down large psychotic men than 90% of my male staff (doesn't that drive the former Marines up a wall!). We are pure inpatient psych though, no medical at all at this hospital, so we don't see nearly the range of assholes that an ED sees. The occasional mis-diagnosed PCP or bath salts cases are the truly tough ones.

It also helps that I firmly instruct my staff that a restraint does not begin until after any assault in progress is stopped. They are to use any means needed, up to the limits of our state's self-defense laws to stop the assault. Then and only then do we use our restraint techniques. We also use police MOAB at our facility. Not what I'd do out in the world, but FAR better than some of the ridiculous school and hospital restraint trainings out there.
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I'm always nice to nurses because they have a tough job, and they always return the favor.  ICU nurses tend to be the most grizzled.  Absolutely nothing fazes them.
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ICU *and* ER.
Link Posted: 7/1/2017 9:43:40 PM EDT
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ICU *and* ER.
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I'm always nice to nurses because they have a tough job, and they always return the favor.  ICU nurses tend to be the most grizzled.  Absolutely nothing fazes them.
ICU *and* ER.
When I was in ICU for my cabag the nicest nurses in my opinion were the ICU and IMU.  A couple of days after Christmas I had a Filipino nurse taking care of me.  She pulled my Foley, and didn't bat an eye.  I told her I needed to get well enough so I could shave myself.  She shaved me, and was good at it.  It was great.  Several days later I was moved to IMU and had a LVN come in and give me e best bath I've ever had.  She put me cowboy style in a chair and sat behind me.  She let the gown fall forward. She used lots of hot water and soap.  I got my hair washed, and shaved again.  

I'd like to go back and thank a!l the nurses that took care of me.  They are great, and I think I wouldn't be here today without them
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