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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:28:57 PM EDT
Yes, I'm watching Ancient Alien, BUT I'm not saying it was aliens.
So, if you look at some of the sites they are always talking about which were built thousands of years ago, they do seem to have been built in ways that are hard to explain or duplicate. Is it possible that our ancient ancestors figured out ways to build these huge structures using knowledge that has been lost to mankind? If so, then is it possible that our ancient ancestors were more advanced than us in some ways? We know that some of the Chinese cultures had begun exploring the world via ocean travel centuries before Europeans did, and archeologists have found devices that we don't understand the purpose for. We also know that conquering European and Islamic cultures were into destroying the conquered culture. I wonder if we are in some ways less advanced than some of the ancient cultures that came before us. |
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Just a thought, perhaps the smart humans of ancient times left, as in went to other planets... A few stayed behind, and inter mingled with caveman and presto modern man...
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Our ancient ancestors had no liberals and had no FSA.
You're damn right they were more advanced than us. |
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Imagine if/when another Ice Age hits us, what things in our modern world would survive it?
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I think our ancestors from right before the end of the last age were pretty advanced, then what ever happened to cause the huge melt off killed off a ton of people and well we started over again.
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Why are all the Egyptian sarcophaguses sized for Pharaohs 12 to 15 feet high?
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My thoughts are humans probably haven't gotten much smarter as a being. They were adapted to their world and smart in ways which we are not now. Think if we put all our energy in to stacking rocks for a few hundred years, we could get pretty good at it. How many of us would be well adapted to life even 200 years ago?
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Anyone who thinks we haven't done all this shit before doesn't really understand how quickly the earth covers up any sign of humans. That along with the multiple times we have had ice ages/asteroid/comet impacts means we wouldn't find shit from the ancient civilizations. And when I say ancient I don't mean a couple thousand years. I'm talking 100s of thousands of years. Humans have advanced to our current stage before and been all but wiped out and it will happen again.
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Yes, I'm watching Ancient Alien, BUT I'm not saying it was aliens. So, if you look at some of the sites they are always talking about which were built thousands of years ago, they do seem to have been built in ways that are hard to explain or duplicate. Is it possible that our ancient ancestors figured out ways to build these huge structures using knowledge that has been lost to mankind? If so, then is it possible that our ancient ancestors were more advanced than us in some ways? We know that some of the Chinese cultures had begun exploring the world via ocean travel centuries before Europeans did, and archeologists have found devices that we don't understand the purpose for. We also know that conquering European and Islamic cultures were into destroying the conquered culture. I wonder if we are in some ways less advanced than some of the ancient cultures that came before us. View Quote Long answer. There is nothing that we can't easily duplicate or understand. We may not know the details of how THEY did it (for instance how do you haul a giant obelisk a long distance without breaking it) and we might not know what the PURPOSE of a device is, but there is nothing that mechanically is a mystery. |
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I believe there has been a tremendous amount of knowledge lost from ancient civilizations. The Pyramids for example, I am not sure we could build those today.
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There liberals fucked shit up. Our liberals fuck shit up. Everything is circular.
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I'm sure lots of knowledge and techniques have been lost to time, from construction to weaving techniques.
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I believe there has been a tremendous amount of knowledge lost from ancient civilizations. The Pyramids for example, I am not sure we could build those today. View Quote Labor laws, OSHA, EPA, and a thousand other regulations or agencies would try to stop us. Now, if we had none of that and a few million people we didn't mind working to death, we could probably knock out a pyramid per month. |
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Adam and Eve were the most intelligent humans. It's all been downhill since then.
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New Battlestar Galactica classic intro |
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Yep. We forgot how to move enormous rocks with ropes and tree trunks when we invented machines.
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In some ways yes. They knew what all the plants were in their area, I bet you don't.
Things like that. |
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No.
They might have had a slightly better sense of smell. ETA: Many things that seem marvelous to us were mainly due to 2 things: 1) Experience. You did what your father did, and his father did, and his father did, and so on...knowledge built up and passed down. 2) Time. I have seen scientists hew stone in Egypt so not even a piece of paper would fit between them. It just takes time, and our ancient forefathers had plenty of it, and not much in the way of distractions. |
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I still hate the assholes who burned down the library in Alexandria, tons of knowledge was lost there.
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Yes, they were all conservatives. No work, no eat...
We have regressed from there. |
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They built some cool things for sure, but no Saturn 5 rockets, internet, or nuclear submarines.
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Generally, slave labor is good for hauling heavy things and whatnot. What is being discussed in things like the immense craftmanship like: http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/Saksaywaman-megalithic-stones-2_0.jpg http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aZK41l98Luc/VVdCZPOmIYI/AAAAAAABCD0/EqErkccJHGw/puma-punku-9%25255B7%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800 https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d7/17/37/d7173796f69c9e3b667b1b72aa62fc04.jpg http://blog.world-mysteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/antikythera1.jpg Grog from the JustGotFucked tribe, as a slave, couldn't do those things. One thing to ponder: How much of what we have in the world today would survive for 2000 years? View Quote How much of todays society would survive 50,000 years or more let alone 2000 years? |
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They had exactly fuckall else to do. The ones at the bottom did as they were told by the ones at the top, or they died. Human life was cheap, ergonomics weren't quite the big deal they are today. Shaping stone is just labor. Who gives a shit if it takes 50 fuckers to move a stone 3 inches to the left. Get 100 to do it, sacrifice a few, get the whole team motivated.
I have seen in my self and my kids, when the distractions fall away, and just on the other side of what seems to be boredom...Thats where the devil lies in the idle hands. |
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While we've certainly lost some of the methods for doing things, we haven't lost great troves of knowledge. What most people don't understand is that people from hundreds or thousands of years ago were not any less clever than we are now--they just didn't have (in most cases) the ability to build on centuries of scientific and technological knowledge like we do. At a basic level, people and basic societal interactions haven't changed that much. Did ancient Romans make dick jokes? For sure! Did teenagers in the Middle Ages sneak off and have sex in the bushes? You bet.
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As far as scientists can tell from the fossil record, Modern humans have been around for at least 200,000 years. Last week the news said that was possibly extended to 300,000 years.
We went from "not much more technologically advanced than the Roman Empire, but with gunpowder" in 1776 AD to "launched men to the Moon, and returned them safely to Earth" in less than 200 years. Between being wired for problem solving and having opposable thumbs for manipulating tools, our species is capable of gigantic leaps of technological progress in very short amounts of time. It is foolish to think there were no advanced civilizations before the last 3000 years. Could they send a man to the Moon? No. Could there have been a civilization as advanced as the Roman Empire of 100 AD prior to or during the last Ice Age, maybe 40,000 years ago? Absolutely possible. Where is the evidence? Offshore buried under sand, on land but crushed by Ice Age ice sheets then buried under soil, or built over since the end of the last Ice Age. Look into where the coastlines were 15,000 years ago when sea levels were hundreds of feet lower than they are today, and take into account that people tend to live along coastlines and river banks. It opens up an entire new world of possibilities. |
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As far as scientists can tell from the fossil record, Modern humans have been around for at least 200,000 years. Last week the news said that was possibly extended to 300,000 years. We went from "not much more technologically advanced than the Roman Empire, but with gunpowder" in 1776 AD to "launched men to the Moon, and returned them safely to Earth" in less than 200 years. Between being wired for problem solving and having opposable thumbs for manipulating tools, our species is capable of gigantic leaps of technological progress in very short amounts of time. It is foolish to think there were no advanced civilizations before the last 3000 years. Could they send a man to the Moon? No. Could there have been a civilization as advanced as the Roman Empire of 100 AD prior to or during the last Ice Age, maybe 40,000 years ago? Absolutely possible. Where is the evidence? Offshore buried under sand, on land but crushed by Ice Age ice sheets then buried under soil, or built over since the end of the last Ice Age. Look into where the coastlines were 15,000 years ago when sea levels were hundreds of feet lower than they are today, and take into account that people tend to live along coastlines and river banks. It opens up an entire new world of possibilities. View Quote I also think that you underestimate the progression of knowledge from the renaissance to the industrial age. We were well past the Romans by 1776, lol. |
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DmJfsM8YZ5Q
As we advance, we forget. That old gent did it his way, maybe exactly as he was taught or maybe he added some little twist to it which made it just a little bit "easier". Humanity has accrued knowledge and passed it down generation to generation and some things were changed here and there until it doesn't resemble anything from generations before. |
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They probably just had a shit ton of slaves and hundreds to thousands of years to build stuff
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I'm unsure how we would build pyramids. There are huge rocks in Peru that have been stacked so tight no knife blade can pass between them. These rocks are irregular shape and weigh tons. Howdeydodat?
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I'm unsure how we would build pyramids. There are huge rocks in Peru that have been stacked so tight no knife blade can pass between them. These rocks are irregular shape and weigh tons. Howdeydodat? View Quote The builders of the Egyptian pyramids were highly advanced in astronomy and had GPS-like precision. I read a few books along time ago on the Pyramids and it is very fascinating. It is much, much more than working a few million slaves to death moving rocks. |
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There is a storyline in the Halo fiction universe where humans were once the dominant species in a vast intergalactic empire. We fucked up and crushed anyone who challenged us. We controlled a gigantic percentage of space in the Galaxy. Human technology and tactics were unrivaled and unquestionably superior.
Ultimately we stepped up to the other big kid on the block and lost, beat back to earth until one prominent leader in their society stopped them from erasing us completely. Instead they erased all of our technological advances, forbade passing on that knowledge, quarantined us from the rest of civilized society, and essentially reset us to the Stone age as punishment, and mankind was allowed to exist only as a museum piece of what once was. Always thought it was an interesting angle on history even if it's complete fiction. |
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Some here will give me hell for this, oh well...
Yes, but not in a "good" way. Book of Enoch. Nephilim aka Fallen Angels, interspecies breeding and forbidden knowledge. There have been documented finds of giant bones. The Smithsonian dissapears them. ( do some looking there are old newspaper clippings from the U.S. and if you really dig alot of South American finds. There are alot of American Indian stories about fighting giant cannibalistic giants, also look into what was in Canaan. Every culture has a flood "myth". Around the world there are pyramids... for what purpose is unknown, but they keep getting found, overgrown and looking like hills/mountains. They line up in peculiar ways. They are finding undersea ones too. Atlantis existed. There are tales that one is imprisoned on an island off the UK coast, as well as Antarctica. I think they'll be back, resurrected, whatever in the end of days. |
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