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Posted: 6/23/2017 6:56:12 PM EDT
Had a simulator with an ENJJPT UPT student today. I've actually had him a few times before but those sorties didnt really allow chit chat since they were early on and pretty formal. He's about to get his wings so things get a little lighter as far a formality goes.
Anyway, we were talking about what he wanted for his assignment. He said Hogs. I asked why since everyone nowadays wants Raptors, 35s, Vipers etc. He said his wife graduated here a year ago and was a Hog driver. He also has two brothers in the Hog. I also have 880 hrs in the Hog from way back. Conversation went into legacy etc since im a 2nd gen fighter pilot and my son is a 3rd gen. I asked if his dad was an AF guy. He said no but both grandfathers were Thud drivers from the late 60s. Both shot down, one a POW for 5 years and one was killed on a sortie. My old man was a Thud driver from way back and i texted him about it. He knew both of them and flew out of Korat with the KIA. My old man was in the 44th TFS and the students grandfather was in the 469th. Those were real men back then....God Bless Em! and  to the fallen
My old man also flew Phantoms, Eagles, and retired out of the Viper. I was #2 on his finny flight he was #4. I took 7 of his quarters at the range for bombs and 37 nickels from the 3 LAS passes 
Yeah, i know CSB. I thought it was pretty cool, small world and all. Plus GD seems to love a good aviation thread. MAGA! |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 6:57:08 PM EDT
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That actually is a pretty cool story.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 6:58:14 PM EDT
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Very cool!
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Posted: 6/23/2017 6:58:29 PM EDT
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Way cool!
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:00:23 PM EDT
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CSB.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:00:40 PM EDT
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That actually is a pretty cool story. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:00:58 PM EDT
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So much in common. Neat story.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:03:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:03:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:03:29 PM EDT
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Very cool! Must have been really neat to fly a sortie with your pop.... mine retired 22 years before I went in
Does your dad remember the RC121s at Korat? My dad was with the 553rd recon there in those relics..... not nearly as exciting as driving a thud!! |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:04:51 PM EDT
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That is a pretty slick story... meeting someone related to someone your pops flew with.
My dad was USAF and was a WSO in Phantom IIs. I know he was in the 555th for a bit, but not sure what other squadrons he may have been in. I think he stopped flying in about 1980 or so when he was assigned to be Torrejon AFB's Inspector General. He did a lot of admin stuff from then on. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:06:21 PM EDT
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Very cool! Must have been really neat to fly a sortie with your pop.... mine retired 22 years before I went in |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:08:49 PM EDT
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Very cool! Must have been really neat to fly a sortie with your pop.... mine retired 22 years before I went in
Does your dad remember the RC121s at Korat? My dad was with the 553rd recon there in those relics..... not nearly as exciting as driving a thud!! 
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:11:55 PM EDT
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That is a pretty slick story... meeting someone related to someone your pops flew with. My dad was USAF and was a WSO in Phantom IIs. I know he was in the 555th for a bit, but not sure what other squadrons he may have been in. I think he stopped flying in about 1980 or so when he was assigned to be Torrejon AFB's Inspector General. He did a lot of admin stuff from then on. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:12:42 PM EDT
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Thats all 
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:15:10 PM EDT
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Cool story if I understood one fucking word of what you posted.
I did get the gist that your pops was a bad ass mofo, and that your caddie today while out on the golf course had some ancestors who were likewise bad asses, and he was planning on becoming a pig farmer. How did I do? In other words, I have no clue - but I could probably tell you more about some of the electronics used in your birds than most guys you know...and then I'd have to kill you. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:16:13 PM EDT
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Cool story if I understood one fucking word of what you posted. I did get the gist that your pops was a bad ass mofo, and that your caddie today while out on the golf course had some ancestors who were likewise bad asses, and he was planning on becoming a pig farmer. How did I do? In other words, I have no clue - but I could probably tell you more about some of the electronics used in your birds than most guys you know...and then I'd have to kill you.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:19:46 PM EDT
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Very cool! Must have been really neat to fly a sortie with your pop.... mine retired 22 years before I went in
Does your dad remember the RC121s at Korat? My dad was with the 553rd recon there in those relics..... not nearly as exciting as driving a thud!! "They came in later, I was at Korat in 67 and they were moved in some time after 68. They did provide support for the strike packages as we flew into Hanoi and Haiphong. NOt sure where they were based in 67. Mabye Cam Rahn bay in South Vietnam. They flew missions of the coast in the South China Sea". |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:21:37 PM EDT
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 I know you hear this a bunch of times but, - thanks for serving. I would've, but somebody needed to be a pussy, scared of his own shadow and perfecting the art of chairborne. Also I was discriminated against for being built for love, not for speed. I may be 5ft 2in and 245#, but deep under all this fat is rock-hard determination.
Rangers and OSI have NO IDEA what they missed out on when they passed over me. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:21:39 PM EDT
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My old man went back to Nam in the Phantom. He flew Rhinos from very early 70s to about 78. He was a Squadron CC at Moody from 75-78 as a major. He flew Rhinos in Nam, Homestead and Moody. He probably knows him. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:24:07 PM EDT
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Cool story.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:26:00 PM EDT
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Can I ask your dad's name? I was at Moody working on the sim from March '76 to May '83. His name might be one of the ones that are familiar to me." |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:32:36 PM EDT
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Dont know what a hog is or a thud.
But i envy you fighter pilots. Childhood dream that never happened. I always dreamt of singig ...you lost that loving feeling.. to an old cougar. Thanks for your service. Beers on me if you ever come to CT. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:32:55 PM EDT
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He just sent me back this response: "They came in later, I was at Korat in 67 and they were moved in some time after 68. They did provide support for the strike packages as we flew into Hanoi and Haiphong. NOt sure where they were based in 67. Mabye Cam Rahn bay in South Vietnam. They flew missions of the coast in the South China Sea". |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:50:47 PM EDT
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Great stuff, guys. Thanks for sharing it.
I've got one of these (back at home) from the wife's grandfather. He started in MX with the 417FBS at Hahn with Yeager as the CO. Went on to FE in C-119s and C-124s. Ended up at the 301FW at Carswell with F-105s through to F-4s, eventually retiring as CCM. He passed three years ago, but I was fortunate enough to spend the last few years with him talking aviation every chance we got. RIP, Chief. ETA: 24 ship F-105 flyby @ Carswell AFB, 1981. I found this after he died, but my wife's grandfather is quite possibly one of the good ol' boys heard on the video prior to the flyby. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:54:39 PM EDT
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Great stuff, guys. Thanks for sharing it. http://ljmilitaria.com/usafwingspatches/71270b900.jpg I've got one of these (back at home) from the wife's grandfather. He started in MX with the 417FBS at Hahn with Yeager as the CO. Went on to FE in C-119s and C-124s. Ended up at the 301FW at Carswell with F-105s through to F-4s, eventually retiring as CCM. He passed three years ago, but I was fortunate enough to spend the last few years with him talking aviation every chance we got. RIP, Chief.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:56:55 PM EDT
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Very cool story.
Please tell me you yelled at him, "King Kong ain't got nothing on me" at least once? |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:57:50 PM EDT
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Had a simulator with an ENJJPT UPT student today. I've actually had him a few times before but those sorties didnt really allow chit chat since they were early on and pretty formal. He's about to get his wings so things get a little lighter as far a formality goes. Anyway, we were talking about what he wanted for his assignment. He said Hogs. I asked why since everyone nowadays wants Raptors, 35s, Vipers etc. He said his wife graduated here a year ago and was a Hog driver. He also has two brothers in the Hog. I also have 880 hrs in the Hog from way back. Conversation went into legacy etc since im a 2nd gen fighter pilot and my son is a 3rd gen. I asked if his dad was an AF guy. He said no but both grandfathers were Thud drivers from the late 60s. Both shot down, one a POW for 5 years and one was killed on a sortie. My old man was a Thud driver from way back and i texted him about it. He knew both of them and flew out of Korat with the KIA. My old man was in the 44th TFS and the students grandfather was in the 469th. Those were real men back then....God Bless Em! and to the fallen
My old man also flew Phantoms, Eagles, and retired out of the Viper. I was #2 on his finny flight he was #4. I took 7 of his quarters at the range for bombs and 37 nickels from the 3 LAS passes
Yeah, i know CSB. I thought it was pretty cool, small world and all. Plus GD seems to love a good aviation thread. MAGA! Cool story. Been a tough week for Vipers. Was there for the first one Wed. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:59:35 PM EDT
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Dont know what a hog is or a thud. But i envy you fighter pilots. Childhood dream that never happened. I always dreamt of singig ...you lost that loving feeling.. to an old cougar. Thanks for your service. Beers on me if you ever come to CT. . E models we just called baby seals aka Beagle, Mudhen, Dark Eagle.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:06:12 PM EDT
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"Bear" Chambers. I lived in those houses just to the left as you drove in the main gate. I used to take my dads golf clubs and drive balls into the woods behind the house. Me and my friends used to swim the golf course water hazards and step on the balls and collect them and sell them back to the golfers. I also had my personal stash. I was a punk, 12 and 13 yrs old at the time. My sister dated Buck Belue the QB at Valdosta High. His claim to fame is handing off the ball to Hershal Walker at UGA for the next 4 years. I remember those houses right a the gate as well as the one (base commander's house?) right next to the CBPO building. I was in the dorms near CBPO. Nice dorms, since they were built as student pilot dorms instead of enlisted dorms. I don't recall anyone called "Bear", but I didn't get to hear many pilot's nicknames. It was always Captain, Major or Colonel. Was he the commander of a flying squadron or one of the maintenance squadrons? When I got to fly I flew with the 339th and went up with the squadron ops officer. I need to look up my certificate to get his name. My commander, Major Jerry Stalnacker got yanked from one of the flying squadrons and put in charge of the Avionics Maintenance Squadron for his required desk time. He was a big time Auburn football fan and a great guy to work for. Hope he got far after his stent behind a desk. Another name from Moody at the top of my head is Hoy Blanton. He was a Captain who was the wing sim training officer. He started out in Thailand flying Phantoms, came back to the states and flew OV-10s at Patrick before coming to Moody. After he left Moody he moved right up the chain. I met him a few years later when he was TDY to George flying F-111s at Mountain Home during one of the Desert Warrior exercises held at George. I met him again at Clark where he was the commander of the 90th Fighter Squadron. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:08:35 PM EDT
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Cool story. Been a tough week for Vipers. Was there for the first one Wed. Anyway, shit happens. ACES II FTMFW. Never had to use in 1880hrs but i know a bunch of dudes and one chick who did. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:13:00 PM EDT
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I recall Buck Belue. Last I heard he was back in Valdosta selling Toyotas in '83. I remember those houses right a the gate as well as the one (base commander's house?) right next to the CBPO building. I was in the dorms near CBPO. Nice dorms, since they were built as student pilot dorms instead of enlisted dorms. I don't recall anyone called "Bear", but I didn't get to hear many pilot's nicknames. It was always Captain, Major or Colonel. Was he the commander of a flying squadron or one of the maintenance squadrons? When I got to fly I flew with the 339th and went up with the squadron ops officer. I need to look up my certificate to get his name. My commander, Major Jerry Stalnacker got yanked from one of the flying squadrons and put in charge of the Avionics Maintenance Squadron for his required desk time. He was a big time Auburn football fan and a great guy to work for. Hope he got far after his stent behind a desk. Another name from Moody at the top of my head is Hoy Blanton. He was a Captain who was the wing sim training officer. He started out in Thailand flying Phantoms, came back to the states and flew OV-10s at Patrick before coming to Moody. After he left Moody he moved right up the chain. I met him a few years later when he was TDY to George flying F-111s at Mountain Home during one of the Desert Warrior exercises held at George. I met him again at Clark where he was the commander of the 90th Fighter Squadron. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:14:16 PM EDT
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And then did you guys do this?
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:14:25 PM EDT
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Small world.
I hope the kid does well. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:14:29 PM EDT
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Hog is the shit, I love big guns... A good friend of mine fly Phantoms, Dragonfly, OV10 and the Hog. He is retired living in Archer City. I'm retired CE so all I did was watch but I did get an incentive flight in a T38 while stationed at Laughlin.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:16:22 PM EDT
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Hog is the suit, I love big guns... A good friend of mine fly Phantoms, Dragonfly, OV10 and the Hog. He is retired living in Archer City. Speaking of big guns....I emptied the Gau-8 34 times in anger. 1174 rounds of pure hate
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:20:21 PM EDT
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Ask if he knows Clay Reid or any of the Reids. Its a tiny ass town. My son married his Daughter and they are in Kadena, Okinawa flying C Models I just caught that last bit, your so lucky. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:20:25 PM EDT
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Small world. I hope the kid does well. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:22:37 PM EDT
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I'll ask. That name sounds familiar, I hunt on hi property so I know it's very small. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:26:08 PM EDT
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I'll ask. That name sounds familiar, I hunt on hi property so I know it's very small. I just caught that last bit, your so lucky. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:29:22 PM EDT
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I recall Buck Belue. Last I heard he was back in Valdosta selling Toyotas in '83. I remember those houses right a the gate as well as the one (base commander's house?) right next to the CBPO building. I was in the dorms near CBPO. Nice dorms, since they were built as student pilot dorms instead of enlisted dorms. I don't recall anyone called "Bear", but I didn't get to hear many pilot's nicknames. It was always Captain, Major or Colonel. Was he the commander of a flying squadron or one of the maintenance squadrons? When I got to fly I flew with the 339th and went up with the squadron ops officer. I need to look up my certificate to get his name. My commander, Major Jerry Stalnacker got yanked from one of the flying squadrons and put in charge of the Avionics Maintenance Squadron for his required desk time. He was a big time Auburn football fan and a great guy to work for. Hope he got far after his stent behind a desk. Another name from Moody at the top of my head is Hoy Blanton. He was a Captain who was the wing sim training officer. He started out in Thailand flying Phantoms, came back to the states and flew OV-10s at Patrick before coming to Moody. After he left Moody he moved right up the chain. I met him a few years later when he was TDY to George flying F-111s at Mountain Home during one of the Desert Warrior exercises held at George. I met him again at Clark where he was the commander of the 90th Fighter Squadron. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:29:37 PM EDT
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It would be a way cooler story bro if I understood half your flyboy jargon.
But it still reads pretty well to my old eyes.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:34:40 PM EDT
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Buck Belue has a very popular sports talk show on AM 680 in Atlanta. He's really good at it. Ill text her and see if she still is in contact with him. He was definitely a sharp kid back then and at UGA....though he was in Hershel's shadow.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:35:52 PM EDT
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So many acronyms, so much jargon nobody else understands. CSB, but how'd you type all that without your hands dogfighting?
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:42:45 PM EDT
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So many acronyms, so much jargon nobody else understands. CSB, but how'd you type all that without your hands dogfighting? ETA: The jargon is pretty much a foreign language for those not "in the know" but that applies to many many jobs, activities, professions. I dont even realize im doing it. I do think google will recognize most of the acronyms, to me they are just common words that should be in the Oxford dictionary
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:45:42 PM EDT
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When did you fly Hogs? Ever at Bentwaters?
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Posted: 6/23/2017 9:10:24 PM EDT
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My old man also flew Phantoms, Eagles, and retired out of the Viper. I was #2 on his finny flight he was #4. I took 7 of his quarters at the range for bombs and 37 nickels from the 3 LAS passes It's a small military. So what does all that (quoted) mean? I once had a female west pointer blow me up and damn near lost her commission. A few classes later I was talking about this "dumbfuck" lieutenant and how to not do what she did, no names but lots of cussing. One of the guys in the back asks what her name was, he was her brother. I was glad I didn't get too carried away with my description. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 9:15:51 PM EDT
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When did you fly Hogs? Ever at Bentwaters? |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 9:17:40 PM EDT
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It's a small military. So what does all that (quoted) mean? I once had a female west pointer blow me up and damn near lost her commission. A few classes later I was talking about this "dumbfuck" lieutenant and how to not do what she did, no names but lots of cussing. One of the guys in the back asks what her name was, he was her brother. 
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Posted: 6/23/2017 9:22:55 PM EDT
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If the Airforce has a CSB ribbon, that story earns it.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 9:25:32 PM EDT
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I was #2 on his finny flight he was #4. I took 7 of his quarters at the range for bombs and 37 nickels from the 3 LAS passes! This quote |
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