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Link Posted: 6/23/2017 9:51:44 PM EDT
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The problem with your argument is that back in the 30s (or so) lumber mills took all these thing into account and produced accurate dimensional lumber. Then they changed their ways. I can remember being completely amazed at age 16 trying to repair a wooden stairway built in the 1930s. All of a sudden my "new" replacement 2X4s weren't the same size as the old ones I was replacing.
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It's changed twice. All of the really houses, say pre 1930s or so, were usually built with roughsawn lumber that was the same finished size as nominal size.

They started planing lumber in the late 30s or 40s or so, but not to modern sizes. Some old lumber strength manuals will refer to these sizes as "old sizes" which were about a 1/4" smaller in each direction than nominal (a 2x4 meaured 1 3/4" x 3 3/4"). Then at some points around the 1960s or so, the standard sizes became what they are today 2x4 1 1/2"x3 1/2", 2x8 1 1/2"x7 1/4" etc.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 11:57:53 PM EDT
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Let them try to refurbish a house with REAL 2 x 4's in a house built with 1 1/2" x 3 1/2" walls.

"Hey Bob,  this drywall is stickin' out a bit...."

Industry standard , dumbasses.
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 12:09:14 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/24/2017 12:16:07 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/24/2017 7:58:05 AM EDT
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My old house is built with preban lumber.

Nothing is warped. Today's lumber seems like shit in comparison. I can't count on modern advertised dimensions when I make repairs.

I've got a crapload of standing. Where's my check?
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 8:27:58 AM EDT
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Yeah, well a dollar isn't worth what it was five years ago. Class action against our government?
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 8:38:58 AM EDT
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My old house is built with preban lumber.

Nothing is warped. Today's lumber seems like shit in comparison. I can't count on modern advertised dimensions when I make repairs.

I've got a crapload of standing. Where's my check?
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You can have a mill cut you whatever lumber you want.
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 8:49:59 AM EDT
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Do you want the metric system? Because this is how you get the metric system.
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That's the goal of the left. Because the current system is racist.
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 8:50:32 AM EDT
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I don't see me ever calling it anything but 2x4 or 2x6. 'Cut me an inch and half by three and a half 14 and 3/4'
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 8:52:42 AM EDT
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Next they will sue truck manufacturers? because 4x4 aren't really driving all 4 wheels at once.
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 8:52:53 AM EDT
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I'd be embarrassed I was so dumb.
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Snort.
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 8:56:27 AM EDT
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that fucking kerf strikes again......
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 8:56:49 AM EDT
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In Louisiana they call it a 4 x 2.    
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 9:03:19 AM EDT
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Are they going to sue armor companies for selling 8X10" plates that aren't 8x10"?
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 9:08:53 AM EDT
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This is what happens when DIYers get into shit they don't understand like industry nominal dimensions....

2x4's haven't been 2"x 4" since the 19motherfuckin30's.
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 Why the fuck can't they simply state what it is? Society has the ability to EASILY be more accurate, more precise. Do you know how much work it would take to relabel shit? Very little, in the grand scheme of things.
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 9:12:02 AM EDT
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Everyone knows that lumber hasn't been true-sized for decades
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 9:56:39 AM EDT
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If I recall, the Lowe's lawsuit was actually due to them selling lumber undersized from the 1.5x3.5 and calling it a 2x4.
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 10:09:01 AM EDT
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 Why the fuck can't they simply state what it is? Society has the ability to EASILY be more accurate, more precise. Do you know how much work it would take to relabel shit? Very little, in the grand scheme of things.
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What's next, are you going to take a dial indicator and sue because there are high spots and low spots within the specified thickness?

The trade name is a 4x4.   Not only would I throw the case out,  I would bar the idiots from being allowed in a lumber yard again.  
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 10:14:43 AM EDT
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 Why the fuck can't they simply state what it is? Society has the ability to EASILY be more accurate, more precise. Do you know how much work it would take to relabel shit? Very little, in the grand scheme of things.
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Relabel for who?  People building shit already know wtf a 2x4 is.
Link Posted: 6/24/2017 4:29:16 PM EDT
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Nobody tell them about 2x4s.
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