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Posted: 5/28/2017 2:59:39 PM EDT
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... and it is good for those obnoxious biting flies that will buzz you until you knock the down and stomp their guts out. It's hard to even go for a walk with those very aggressive flies. The Permethrin does the job. |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 3:05:57 PM EDT
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Fireants I don't even worry about them anymore. I still get in chiggers occasionally, but still not as bad as it used to be on them either. http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/hard-fire-ants/ |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 3:07:49 PM EDT
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Do you throw them at ticks? Hang the apple cores from trees? Throw apple cores all over your yard? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I used to pick hundreds of them off my 4 golden retrievers every night till I started using Apple cores, in the last 17 years I rarely see it tick Hang the apple cores from trees? Throw apple cores all over your yard? |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 3:08:33 PM EDT
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Spray insecticide
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Posted: 5/28/2017 3:23:23 PM EDT
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How dangerous is Permethrin to use around cats? we have...several cats that all stay outside. The wife would divorce me if they all started convulsing and thrashing around from being poisoned. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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... and it is good for those obnoxious biting flies that will buzz you until you knock the down and stomp their guts out. It's hard to even go for a walk with those very aggressive flies. The Permethrin does the job. |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 3:27:44 PM EDT
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Ive never seen a single tick here in vegas, we worry about scorpions...
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Posted: 5/28/2017 3:43:21 PM EDT
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How dangerous is Permethrin to use around cats? we have...several cats that all stay outside. The wife would divorce me if they all started convulsing and thrashing around from being poisoned. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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... and it is good for those obnoxious biting flies that will buzz you until you knock the down and stomp their guts out. It's hard to even go for a walk with those very aggressive flies. The Permethrin does the job. |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 3:44:06 PM EDT
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In a word. VERY. Permethrin should NEVER be used around cats. It's safer once dried (approx 3-4hrs), but while wet can cause tons of neurological problems. I've seen the results of permethrin for a dog used accidentally on a cat (different Frontline doses stored together out of their appropriate boxes). It wasn't pretty and the cat's owner learned an important lesson when we returned the body. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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... and it is good for those obnoxious biting flies that will buzz you until you knock the down and stomp their guts out. It's hard to even go for a walk with those very aggressive flies. The Permethrin does the job. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permethrin |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 3:44:58 PM EDT
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In a word. VERY. Permethrin should NEVER be used around cats. It's safer once dried (approx 3-4hrs), but while wet can cause tons of neurological problems. I've seen the results of permethrin for a dog used accidentally on a cat (different Frontline doses stored together out of their appropriate boxes). It wasn't pretty and the cat's owner learned an important lesson when we returned the body. |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 3:51:44 PM EDT
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At the active concentrations you spray at it is a total non-issue. Keep the cats away while it's wet then don't worry about it. |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 3:59:10 PM EDT
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stay inside
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Posted: 5/28/2017 4:03:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/28/2017 4:04:14 PM EDT
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maybe maybe not depending on the exposure level and length if they are contained in the yard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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At the active concentrations you spray at it is a total non-issue. Keep the cats away while it's wet then don't worry about it. Ticks are very, very sensitive to permethrin based products so higher concentrations are totally unnecessary. If it were me I wouldn't do a broadcast application in the first place, there is no need. Just do a band spray around the areas where you don't want ticks and you will be good to go. |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 4:08:32 PM EDT
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I've lived in CA all my life and never seen one. Some people have said they are here, but I've never seen one. The dogs never get/got them either. They're a non-issue.
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Posted: 5/28/2017 4:09:53 PM EDT
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I don't see ticks here, but then again, I wouldn't know one if I saw one. Maybe my surrounding neighbors control them for me. We also have a huge flock of crows/ravens ...maybe they're a controlling factor.
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Posted: 5/28/2017 4:11:13 PM EDT
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I have never seen a tick in my part of Idaho. Not on my goats, dogs, cats, or the deer I have harvested. When I lived in New Mexico I never once saw a flea either.
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Posted: 5/28/2017 4:22:31 PM EDT
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At the active concentrations you spray at it is a total non-issue. Keep the cats away while it's wet then don't worry about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In a word. VERY. Permethrin should NEVER be used around cats. It's safer once dried (approx 3-4hrs), but while wet can cause tons of neurological problems. I've seen the results of permethrin for a dog used accidentally on a cat (different Frontline doses stored together out of their appropriate boxes). It wasn't pretty and the cat's owner learned an important lesson when we returned the body. |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 6:33:58 PM EDT
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... and it is good for those obnoxious biting flies that will buzz you until you knock the down and stomp their guts out. It's hard to even go for a walk with those very aggressive flies. The Permethrin does the job. Bream seem to enjoy them. 
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Posted: 5/28/2017 6:57:22 PM EDT
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For those who asked about cats and permethrin...
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BifuRgxIYwU[/youtube] [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5YJm7IvPNM[/youtube] [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lomlOHxDojo[/youtube] Permethrin Pharmacokinetics of permethrin
Topically administered permethrin remains mostly on the hair-coat of the treated animals and is very poorly absorbed through the skin. In contrast with natural pyrethrins and older synthetic pyrethroids permethrin is quite resistant to UV-light, which allows a residual effect between 5 and 10 days for most sprays and dips. Treated animals can ingest permethrin through licking or grooming. Absorption to blood is low. The absorbed permethrin is quickly metabolized in the liver to non-toxic metabolites that are excreted through urine. This is done by a specific enzyme called glucuronidase. However, cats lack this enzyme and cannot metabolize permethrin and other synthetic pyrethroids. This is why permethrin and most other synthetic pyrethroids are toxic to cats. As a general rule permethrin products are approved for use on dairy animals and on laying hens in many countries. |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 7:22:35 PM EDT
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Fire or Nuclear explosives
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Posted: 5/28/2017 7:22:50 PM EDT
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Fire or Nuclear explosives
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Posted: 5/28/2017 11:19:55 PM EDT
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This is what you need:
A 1lb pail is enough to mix up 25 gallons of the high strength application and thoroughly cover about 1 acre 3x. Just apply it when you've got about 4-7 days with no rain so it can work its magic. It kills ticks and everything else, including flying insects. My main problem was wolf spiders. Put some down about 6 weeks ago and haven't seen a single one since. I try to treat my yard twice a year. Once in the spring and then once right near July 4th before my big cookout. That's usually enough for the year. |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 11:32:30 PM EDT
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Ive never seen a single tick here in vegas, we worry about scorpions... |
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Posted: 5/29/2017 9:39:31 AM EDT
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For those who asked about cats and permethrin...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BifuRgxIYwU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5YJm7IvPNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lomlOHxDojo
Permethrin A cursory search shows K9 Advantix is 44% permethrin by volume. The concentrations you spray for turf pest control are in the .00375% range. That means that the same dose of active permethrin you would give a 15 lb. dog would be spread over 1000 square feet when spread on a lawn. Once the product is dry the likelihood of moving from the treated surface into the cats bloodstream decreases dramatically. Moral of the story is, applied properly permethrin and synthetics are some of the safest modes of insect/arthropod pest control out there. |
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Posted: 5/29/2017 11:32:55 AM EDT
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Bifen IT. Problem solved.
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Posted: 5/29/2017 12:33:10 PM EDT
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Permethrin |
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Posted: 5/29/2017 12:45:03 PM EDT
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The same way I control mosquitoes, flies, crickets, and just about every other insect.
 
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Posted: 5/29/2017 1:17:30 PM EDT
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I'd bet 99.99999999999999 out of 100 cases of permethrin toxicity in cats are caused by misuse of a product. A cursory search shows K9 Advantix is 44% permethrin by volume. The concentrations you spray for turf pest control are in the .00375% range. That means that the same dose of active permethrin you would give a 15 lb. dog would be spread over 1000 square feet when spread on a lawn. Once the product is dry the likelihood of moving from the treated surface into the cats bloodstream decreases dramatically. Moral of the story is, applied properly permethrin and synthetics are some of the safest modes of insect/arthropod pest control out there. |
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Posted: 5/29/2017 1:19:27 PM EDT
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I'd bet 99.99999999999999 out of 100 cases of permethrin toxicity in cats are caused by misuse of a product. A cursory search shows K9 Advantix is 44% permethrin by volume. The concentrations you spray for turf pest control are in the .00375% range. That means that the same dose of active permethrin you would give a 15 lb. dog would be spread over 1000 square feet when spread on a lawn. Once the product is dry the likelihood of moving from the treated surface into the cats bloodstream decreases dramatically. Moral of the story is, applied properly permethrin and synthetics are some of the safest modes of insect/arthropod pest control out there. |
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Posted: 5/29/2017 1:24:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/29/2017 1:26:08 PM EDT
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Why risk it at all? Get bifen. It's at least as effective as permethrin and is safe on everything that isn't an insect or fish. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd bet 99.99999999999999 out of 100 cases of permethrin toxicity in cats are caused by misuse of a product. A cursory search shows K9 Advantix is 44% permethrin by volume. The concentrations you spray for turf pest control are in the .00375% range. That means that the same dose of active permethrin you would give a 15 lb. dog would be spread over 1000 square feet when spread on a lawn. Once the product is dry the likelihood of moving from the treated surface into the cats bloodstream decreases dramatically. Moral of the story is, applied properly permethrin and synthetics are some of the safest modes of insect/arthropod pest control out there. |
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